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Oh, his tactics didn't rebound. His supporters will take every stutter from Biden as proof he's a senile puppet being manipulated behind the scenes by either Harris or Obama (depending on the conspiracy theory of the day) and ignore anything Trump does that doesn't paint him in the most perfect of all lights.

She is packing way more muscle than a load of the keyboard warriors getting in a tizzy whenever women have bulges that aren't breasts, hips and buttocks.
If you'd like I could complain that Nier Replicant ver √1.5 made Kainé's...other bulge smaller than in the original, although it's subtle.
 
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Expand on this. Don't be coy, say things out loud. Because I'm willing to bet you'd give zero fucks and see it as entirely normal expression of teen behaviour if the experience in question wasn't same sex.

Then again, I'm giving you too much credit here, as I imagine you place a historical figure like this on a pedestal as an asexual creature, not to be sullied with such "political aspects" as teen sex ed or sexuality.
Ok, so why do we need to know about that aspect?

I don't see people clamouring to decry the lack of sex scenes in films about Churchill (well other than that one film with one).

I don't think Anne Frank's sex life is really important to her story as such be it straight or gay.

To use a phrase others have used before, why do you need Anne Frank sexual content?
 

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One can equally wonder what went wrong in your life to get stuck on this concept, but I guess conservatism is embraced by those who traditionally are not capable of engaging in the empathy evoked by art.

The sexuality evokes the common humanity. The boobs aren't the point. It's the youthful wonder at life, common to us all, anchoring that moment in time with the lives of those in this time.

Or maybe it's just wank material.
Really tame and depressing wank material.
So you can't feel empathy for some-one unless they're sexual?


At any rate, why would you try to sex-ed the Holocaust? How can you rationalize having sex in literally anything and think it normal? No, we aren't doing sex ed in history lessons about the Holocaust. This is not sex ed. It's just authors' obsession with having sexuality in their works.
I'd like to add to this even weirder in the context that it seems to be the same people whose go to response for characters being made less sexy in video games or other things is "What's wrong are you upset you can't fap to it?" or "you have the internet to get stuff to jerk off to you don't need this game, not everything needs to be about sex your weird pervert".

Yet Anne Frank's diary is the something said people now want sexual content in adaptations of and not merely some weird fetish porn film adaptation? Of all the things, of all the things, sex in entertainment content designed to be fun and entertaining? No can't have that. In material meant to be educational about certain events, likely meant to be getting used to educate about certain events specifically? Yeh can't do that without some sexual content. I mean really WTF. I don't like using this term but that's some coomer brain level stuff right there for people to seemingly want that.
 

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Short answer that covers both of you: It's a teenage girl's diary. Talking about life during a horrible time. AND EVEN THEN, teenagers were still interested in and exploring their sexuality. I don't need it to be there, but I'm not phased by the idea a teenager thought about and explored sexual ideas and questioning it's inclusion.
 

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Yet Anne Frank's diary is the something said people now want sexual content in adaptations of and not merely some weird fetish porn film adaptation? Of all the things, of all the things, sex in entertainment content designed to be fun and entertaining? No can't have that. In material meant to be educational about certain events, likely meant to be getting used to educate about certain events specifically? Yeh can't do that without some sexual content. I mean really WTF. I don't like using this term but that's some coomer brain level stuff right there for people to seemingly want that.
It was already there in the book. The content in question was already there. Nobody asked for it to be there, the author made the decision based on actual passages from the original diary. Something that is perfectly in line with what a teenaged girl would go through, even one hiding from nazis. Nobody was reading a book on the Holocaust without sexual content and asked for there to be sexual content. This was how the book was released. And now conservatives have conveniently banned it along with another graphic novel about the Holocaust. I know you're always very eager to try and turn something like this around as a gotcha, and I doubt your respone to this will be of of any higher level than what you just posted, but seriously... stop failing so damn hard.
 
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It was already there in the book. The content in question was already there. Nobody asked for it to be there, the author made the decision based on actual passages from the original diary. Something that is perfectly in line with what a teenaged girl would go through, even one hiding from nazis. Nobody was reading a book on the Holocaust without sexual content and asked for there to be sexual content. This was how the book was released. And now conservatives have conveniently banned it along with another graphic novel about the Holocaust. I know you're always very eager to try and turn something like this around as a gotcha, and I doubt your response to this will be of of any higher level than what you just posted, but seriously... stop failing so damn hard.
Well except Anne Frank editing her diaries to remove it meaning she didn't want that content to be in released version if she ever published it.

Also the sexy characters in a number of games were there to begin with before being edited or removed? Yet that's fine?
 

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It's all he ever does. It's pretty clear he cares more about pleasing his Ultra Right false gods, at the convenience of denying or alternating history to suit his bad views and convenience. It all makes sense.
All you ever do is snipe from the sidelines because you have no actual arguments and a weird hate boner for me.
 

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Short answer that covers both of you: It's a teenage girl's diary. Talking about life during a horrible time. AND EVEN THEN, teenagers were still interested in and exploring their sexuality. I don't need it to be there, but I'm not phased by the idea a teenager thought about and explored sexual ideas and questioning it's inclusion.
There's also some sexual content in Shindler's List, sooo... guess that historical value is void now.

Also, nobody point conservatives toward Word War 2 movies from Europe, they'll have have a goddamn heart attack. Actually no, point away.
Well except Anne Frank editing her diaries to remove it meaning she didn't want that content to be in released version if she ever published it.
Nobody really knows what she did or didn't want for there to be published. Taking into account that she was a girl in her early teens living in the 1940's, it's obvious that her writing about having a crush on another girl is something she would not want to share with others. Again, it's a diary. But from a historic stand point NOW it makes no sense to ignore this side of her.

Also the sexy characters in a number of games were there to begin with before being edited or removed? Yet that's fine?
Well, which games are we talking about here?
 
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Nobody really knows what she did or didn't want for there to be published. Taking into account that she was a girl in her early teens living in the 1940's, it's obvious that her writing about having a crush on another girl is something she would not want to share with others. Again, it's a diary. But from a historic stand point NOW it makes no sense to ignore this side her.
Considering its a diary and not a memoir, it's likely she didn't want *any* part of it published. Her dad probably took out the argued about parts originally because having teen thoughts about sex, especially potentially same sex issues, probably would've meant it didn't get published at all at the time

But that was a far different time than now, and we're theoretically far less homophobic. Conservatives will swear up and down how much less homophobic they are, as they censored and ban memoirs, diaries, and media depicting horrific events for having the barest hint of basic anatomy
 

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because you have no actual arguments
That's you. You really got to get over your projection issues.

a weird hate boner for me.
No, I just call out the bull crap of people spreading lies and a bunch of half truths. We've all been calling you out. A lot of evidence speaks for itself, and you make it too easy. You have no one to blame but yourself.
 

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There's also some sexual content in Shindler's List, sooo... guess that historical value is void now.
So why is this case when it's a Teen girl one to be defended?


Also, nobody point conservatives toward Word War 2 movies from Europe, they'll have have a goddamn heart attack. Actually no, point away.
Nobody really knows what she did or didn't want for there to be published. Taking into account that she was a girl in her early teens living in the 1940's, it's obvious that her writing about having a crush on another girl is something she would not want to share with others. Again, it's a diary. But from a historic stand point NOW it makes no sense to ignore this side her.
Yes it does make sense to ignore this side of her, because it's ultimately irrelevant to what's meant to be getting taught. As I said like how Churchills sex life is irrelevant to stories of his actions.

Also again she reportedly edited her diary with the idea of it possibly being published. She didn't feel that a relevant part of her story.

Well, which games are we talking about here?
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Cortana changes in Halo,
Changes that were literally being discussed 2 pages back or less about a Dragon Quest game,
Changes to Mortal Kombat characters (and before we get to it yes they were still sexy in MK2 in the skin tight lycra stuff)
I could go on.
 

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Conservatives will swear up and down how much less homophobic they are, as they censored and ban memoirs, diaries, and media depicting horrific events for having the barest hint of basic anatomy
Yeah no, I think we're past that. Conservatives might've maybe, maybe, been able to (or willing to) play that card a decade ago, but they're out and proud about their homophobia now. There's no longer any attempt to sugar-coat their contempt for the non-straights.
 
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Short answer that covers both of you: It's a teenage girl's diary.
It isn't. It's an adaptation of diary, a diary which had already been edited into a book for public consumption without that content.

Like, that content was withheld for good reasons. When the unedited pages were released much later, people tracked down her friend to ask her how it felt to be sexually pressured by Anne Frank. That kinda sucks.
Considering its a diary and not a memoir, it's likely she didn't want *any* part of it published. Her dad probably took out the argued about parts originally because having teen thoughts about sex, especially potentially same sex issues, probably would've meant it didn't get published at all at the time
To reiterate, she edited her own diary with the intent of publishing a book. Her dad finished that job after her death, but she decided to cut the pages of sexuality herself.

It was later that the original diary was released publicly.
 
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That's you. You really got to get over your projection issues.
Nope because as anyone can see I'm making points you're resorting to ad hominem, not able to counter, acting like a desperate person clutching at straws

No, I just call out the bull crap of people spreading lies and a bunch of half truths. We've all been calling you out. A lot of evidence speaks for itself, and you make it too easy. You have no one to blame but yourself.
No you call out people saying things you don't agree with even if they are true.
It's not my problem the half you believe is the lie not the full truth.
As for calling me out, no you've been trying the same tired and honestly boring tactics for a long while of aspersion, straw manning and ah hominem, oh and lets not forget the constant claims of victory or how I've been proved wrong without any evidence just because you threw some insults then stopped responding when called out for it.

As for no-one to blame. You're the ones getting pissy I refuse to argue from strawman positions you want and choosing to take these shots. This isn't some grand justified crusade. You're not saving the world. You're just a petty angry person having to throw shots from the sidelines because firstly you actually apparently lack the capability to actually have arguments and secondly because you want to feel like you're doing good likely due to some skeletons in the proverbial closet you're trying to make up for. so yes, I do blame you because it's your actions, you just choose to blame me for the actions because like with the skeletons in the closet you are unable to take responsibility for your own actions. I didn't make you post here. I didn't make you take the petty shots. You chose that.
 

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It is possible Frank edited the content out due to not wanting it in there for a published audience.

It is equally possible she edited them out because it was 1944 and she had aspirations of becoming a published writer.

Both have as much merit and weight as each other.

She died in a concentration camp, so we will never know which, if either or perhaps both, is true.

Don't try to pretend your interpretation is correct because it supports your values.

Especially since the published version is a frankenstein of both versions (the original diary and the edit she was preparing for publication), edited as those who survived her saw fit.
 
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So why is this case when it's a Teen girl one to be defended?
Because the one with the teen girl got banned.

Yes it does make sense to ignore this side of her, because it's ultimately irrelevant to what's meant to be getting taught. As I said like how Churchills sex life is irrelevant to stories of his actions.
You know her diary was filled with irrelevant informantion that had nothing to do with the war, right? It was a diary, not a documentation on the war.

Also again she reportedly edited her diary with the idea of it possibly being published. She didn't feel that a relevant part of her story.
You don't know if she felt that that was irrelevant or if she was just embarrassed or what. Nobody does. We don't pick and choose what is relevant when it comes to real historical figures. It's only relevant if you have something against teens talking about their sexuality, if you don't then it's just a normal mundane thing like many other things in a girl's diary.

Cortana changes in Halo,
Changes that were literally being discussed 2 pages back or less about a Dragon Quest game,
Changes to Mortal Kombat characters (and before we get to it yes they were still sexy in MK2 in the skin tight lycra stuff)
I could go on.
You mean, the changes made by the studios themselves?

By the way, Cortana wasn't sexy in the first Halo game. She was changed to being sexy because she was a fan favourite. Her being un-sexied is just her reverting to her original form.
 
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