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And, also in the medical community, endless, endless stories of people being told by a doctor their condition was due to weight and finding out later it was something else the doctor would have bothered to look for if they were skinny.
Yeah, this is true of a lot of facets of healthcare recipients who have lifestyles outside the ideal: if you're overweight, that's the cause of your problem; if you're a drinker, that's the cause of your problem; if you're a smoker, that's the cause of your problem; etc. Obviously sometimes that is the cause of your problem, but too often it seems an easy way to dismiss the necessary exploratory work.
 
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I forget where I heard this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I recall hearing that medically, pound-for-pound, being underweight is actually more unhealthy than overweight. As in, it is not good for your health to be 50 pounds over your ideal weight, but it's even worse to be 50 pounds under that weight.
Being drastically underweight can make you very ill in the short term as your body just does not have the resources it needs to perform basic functions. Being drastically overweight is not good for you, but it's something the human body seems fairly resilient to.

But if you look at those weight ranges given, being 50 pounds underweight is much more extreme than being 50 over in the spectrum of human sizes. At 50 under my current weight (a fairly middling 74kg or so) I'd be seriously underweight; at 50 over I'm not even out of the 'overweight' band by BMI.
 

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Addressing things and actually working to solve them are different things.
Yes. Trying to kick out all the migrants to solve a housing crisis that's caused by privatization of the housing market for instance would be a case of ''addressing instead of solving''. After all you can't solve a crisis by going after things that were never the cause to begin with.

Or how some parties try to ''adress'' European sovereignty by trying to surrender it to Russia and the US rather than actually solving the issues involving Europe's place in the world.
 
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Cooking real food is hard, you have to learn it. And takes so long. I know how to cook somewhat, and the cleaning, cutting, and cooking takes so damn long. For people who don't want to do that. You have to go to Costco and or Trader Joe's or maybe Whole Foods if you are rich. Then if you like me a real picky eater you need to hunt for a precooked meal you like. This isn't hard for places like Costco or Trader Joe's, but you have to be near those places, and their food is pricer.

Here's what I recommend if you are middle class or above you need a Costco membership fullstop, trader's Joe's if you are near it too, and prepare then eat their frozen meals if you don't want to cook or can't. If you are a working-class person you need to go to Walmart; the fruits and vegetables area, and the frozen meats area. And just YouTube the cooking recipes. There is also a frozen food area.
Actual restaurants (over fast food) aren't that much more expensive, hence my Mexican restaurant example. I suck at cooking myself, but anyone can cook some basic things (burgers, eggs, etc.). I do want to get one of those InstantPots but that seems like a bit more work than I want, that's how limited my cooking is that I feel an InstantPot is too much for me. I'm not sure if overall real food is more money. Hell, I get 1/2 pound burgers at the local grocery store for $2.50, you can't get a fast food quarter pounder for that price. Plus, if you're eating real food, you'll be eating less overall food (in weight), that's the main trick. The worse food you eat, the more you need to eat because the less nutrients per weight you're getting. Just think about how much people spend on drinks when all you need is water.


I know you've previously been thoroughly shat on about your health and nutrition knowledge on these forums, but it's always nice when you give little snippets which expose your attitudes and cluelessness.
You do realize everything I've said, top experts and doctors have said as well (I learned from them), nutrition is a minefield of misinformation. Medicine can cause you putting on a few pounds but not you being obese. I know what my friend eats (we eat out dinner about 3 times a week) and conversation comes up about this and that over the years and you have a good idea of what someone eats. For example, picking up food from a pizza place regularly because she gets off work late and that's the only place open. She's not eating healthy and blames her medicine.


Siri, what are food deserts and food swamps?
Food deserts like aren't a thing. I drive through Gary, Indiana pretty occasionally (when there's bad traffic on the usual routes) and apparently just Gary alone has 14 food deserts, that's not true. There's plenty of options in Gary for healthy food. The problem is people don't buy/eat healthy food to begin with and that's why there's less healthy food because it doesn't sell. There's a reason why say Sharks is in Gary and there isn't a Poke Bros there, and it's not like Sharks is cheap either (I do love their catfish nuggets, but only get that like once a year). It's there because that's what food the community likes to buy.


Yes. Trying to kick out all the migrants to solve a housing crisis that's caused by privatization of the housing market for instance would be a case of ''addressing instead of solving''. After all you can't solve a crisis by going after things that were never the cause to begin with.

Or how some parties try to ''adress'' European sovereignty by trying to surrender it to Russia and the US rather than actually solving the issues involving Europe's place in the world.
California caused it's housing crisis, everything to do with democratic laws/policy. But no, it's the republicans fault that you can't build houses in California.
 

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California caused it's housing crisis, everything to do with democratic laws/policy. But no, it's the republicans fault that you can't build houses in California.
I wasn't talking about California and the Democrats cannot possibly have implemented laws in a country where they do not operate in so I wouldn't know.
 
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I wasn't talking about California and the Democrats cannot possibly have implemented laws in a country where they do not operate in so I wouldn't know.
You did say that American republicans and republican voters are all racist, that is such a ridiculous statement.
 

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You did say that American republicans and republican voters are all racist, that is such a ridiculous statement.
I did indeed state the contrast of them embracing those traits rather than shamefully trying to hide it and play victim like their European counterpart yeah. I mean at least its more respectful then someone insisting he deliberately voted for the racism party but demand we pretend every reason except racism is why he voted that way.
 

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I did indeed state the contrast of them embracing those traits rather than shamefully trying to hide it and play victim like their European counterpart yeah. I mean at least its more respectful then someone insisting he deliberately voted for the racism party but demand we pretend every reason except racism is why he voted that way.
Republicans aren't racist...
 

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Republicans aren't racist...
Their leadership certainly doesn't seem to agree with you there. From Nixon's ''Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did'' All the way to Trump's ''They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people''
 

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That left wing parties claiming they want to solve economic woes and then driving their economy into the ground isn't a selling point.
I dunno. If your faced with a housing crisis for instance then the Left's idea of just building more houses seems a much better selling point then the right's idea of kicking out some brown people and hoping for the best.

Around these parts Geert Wilders has also never been known for his economic policies. They're so shaky he doesn't even dare submitting them to the central planning bureau which parties traditionally do. Also most economic problems plaguing Europe(and the US) have their origin in right wing policies so this supposed fear of the left ''driving the economy into the ground'' seems really strange. And if you ask even those voters that despise the left then even they have absolutely nothing good to say about Reagan or Thatcher.
 

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Actual restaurants (over fast food) aren't that much more expensive, hence my Mexican restaurant example. I suck at cooking myself, but anyone can cook some basic things (burgers, eggs, etc.). I do want to get one of those InstantPots but that seems like a bit more work than I want, that's how limited my cooking is that I feel an InstantPot is too much for me. I'm not sure if overall real food is more money. Hell, I get 1/2 pound burgers at the local grocery store for $2.50, you can't get a fast food quarter pounder for that price. Plus, if you're eating real food, you'll be eating less overall food (in weight), that's the main trick. The worse food you eat, the more you need to eat because the less nutrients per weight you're getting. Just think about how much people spend on drinks when all you need is water.



You do realize everything I've said, top experts and doctors have said as well (I learned from them), nutrition is a minefield of misinformation. Medicine can cause you putting on a few pounds but not you being obese. I know what my friend eats (we eat out dinner about 3 times a week) and conversation comes up about this and that over the years and you have a good idea of what someone eats. For example, picking up food from a pizza place regularly because she gets off work late and that's the only place open. She's not eating healthy and blames her medicine.



Food deserts like aren't a thing. I drive through Gary, Indiana pretty occasionally (when there's bad traffic on the usual routes) and apparently just Gary alone has 14 food deserts, that's not true. There's plenty of options in Gary for healthy food. The problem is people don't buy/eat healthy food to begin with and that's why there's less healthy food because it doesn't sell. There's a reason why say Sharks is in Gary and there isn't a Poke Bros there, and it's not like Sharks is cheap either (I do love their catfish nuggets, but only get that like once a year). It's there because that's what food the community likes to buy.



California caused it's housing crisis, everything to do with democratic laws/policy. But no, it's the republicans fault that you can't build houses in California.
I wouldn't like to cook burgers every day, because I don't eat them every day. Yes, you can likely cook steak, eggs, and bacon. But that gets boring.
 

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Generally speaking the idea of the right as the fiscally responsible party that protect us from left wing mismanagement is a very funny event in anti woke world. Its the right proudly claiming a mantle that doesn't hold up under any sort of scrutiny.

Take the US for instance. The Republican presidents do not have a strong track record as excellent administrators. Most are more well known for scandal and disaster. When it comes to solid management of the state you have Eisenhower and then its all Democrats like FDR, Truman, Clinton Obama. On the Republican side you either have disasters like Bush, Trump or Nixon, or lesser men, placeholder presidents like Ford or Bush Senior. And Reagan who's economic legacy is the strongest also has that legacy completely discredited by now. Even if we were to put stock in Neoliberism we should note that the supposed boom of that era was under the Democrat Clinton rather than any Republican.

If the Great Depression is traditionally seen as having been mishandled by the Republican Hoover and fixed by the Democrat FDR, if the supposed boon of neoliberalism happened under Democrat Clinton and not under a Republican, and if the Republican presidents of the last century were a gigantic mixed bag at best then why are we expected to believe Republicans are the party of responsible governance?

Its similar in Britain where it was Atlee and not Churchill who had the big economic achievements, where it was new labour rather than Thatcher and co who oversaw the height of neoliberalism and where currently the Tories prefer setting fire to the economy for political gain rather than manage it.

The best papers the right has on the economy is a philosophy that's now thoroughly discredited and even that they've thrown away in favor of wild adventures with the economy just to play political games with it.
 
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Their leadership certainly doesn't seem to agree with you there. From Nixon's ''Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did'' All the way to Trump's ''They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people''
Firstly, that quote comes from someone bitter and betrayed by Nixon so it could be true, it could not be true. Nixon also very much did despise drugs so there is that. Secondly if true, Nixon was targeting those against him, which were blacks and the anti-war left (not blacks). Thus, it wasn't that he was racist and thought blacks were inherently bad or lesser, it was they weren't too big on him. And every president since (democrat and republican alike) has found the war on drugs equally useful for one reason or another. In another example, there's more school segregation in democratic areas because of the difference in how the most north and south states do school districts; in the south, districts are comprised of counties (that are more diverse); in the north, school districts are comprised of smaller municipalities (which aren't very diverse). If republicans really hated blacks, wouldn't they change school districts to be like the north if they really wanted segregated schools because that's a super legal way to segregate schools? This blanket claim that republicans are racist and their voters are racist is just very surface-level stereotype with no nuance at all.

You do realize the reason most people vote for either party because they think the country will come to a screeching halt if the other party is in charge, right? The left thinks electing a republican is gonna turn America fascist and the right thinks America is gonna become socialist/communist. That's literally the talking points heard on the news media people watch. Why do you think the left was literally crying when Trump won in 2016? And what happened during Trump's presidency that ruined the country? Not much at all. It's all fear-based propaganda regardless if you're watching MSNBC or FOX. It's all "you can't vote for them because your worst nightmare will come true" vs "vote for us and we'll make everything better!!!"
 
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