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And, with your logic, then why is anyone concerned about Project 2025?

You can't be both worried about tariffs because that's what Trump said and also be worried about Project 2025 because he said he doesn't care about it.
Or perhaps: he could be lying about one and not the other.

I don't know if you've noticed, but politicians never follow through with either 0% or 100% of their promises. It's somewhere in the middle. Similarly, nobody lies either 0% or 100% of the time. It's somewhere in the middle.

It's very feasible he could lie about one and not the other. Because the association with Project 2025 was harmful to his candidacy, so it was beneficial to lie. But the tariff plan wasn't harmful to his candidacy, because average people don't understand how tariffs work anyway.

You have an extremely black-and-white, simplistic approach to every political question. It's like you cannot comprehend outside of absolutes. That's not how people work.

In addition, even if the two possibilities (lying about one, not lying about the other) were mutually exclusive, it still wouldn't be irrational to consider both. I could worry that either were true. If someone shot someone else in the torso, i could worry that the shot hit the heart or the lung, even if it couldn't have hit both. Either is possible.

Eh, I don't know why I bother though. Your original point-- defending tariffs, saying they won't raise prices-- fell through long ago, and you're not even bothering to defend it in principle anymore, you're just deflecting like you always do. You're not even actually thinking about the subject you're talking about anymore. Just desperately trying to get a "win", even if it doesn't make any goddamn sense.
 
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Or perhaps: he could be lying about one and not the other.

I don't know if you've noticed, but politicians never follow through with either 0% or 100% of their promises. It's somewhere in the middle. Similarly, nobody lies either 0% or 100% of the time. It's somewhere in the middle.

It's very feasible he could lie about one and not the other. Because the association with Project 2025 was harmful to his candidacy, so it was beneficial to lie. But the tariff plan wasn't harmful to his candidacy, because average people don't understand how tariffs work anyway.

You have an extremely black-and-white, simplistic approach to every political question. It's like you cannot comprehend outside of absolutes. That's not how people work.

In addition, even if the two possibilities (lying about one, not lying about the other) were mutually exclusive, it still wouldn't be irrational to consider both. I could worry that either were true. If someone shot someone else in the torso, i could worry that the shot hit the heart or the lung, even if it couldn't have hit both. Either is possible.

Eh, I don't know why I bother though. Your original point-- defending tariffs, saying they won't raise prices-- fell through long ago, and you're not even bothering to defend it in principle anymore, you're just deflecting like you always do. You're not even actually thinking about the subject you're talking about anymore. Just desperately trying to get a "win", even if it doesn't make any goddamn sense.
That's exactly what I've been saying the whole time. You keep acting like just because he said something, it'll happen.

I never said tariffs won't raise prices, I said I don't believe tech products will go up in price.

Trump, according to the people who keep voting for him.
I hope ya'll didn't vote for Kamala hoping she'd do everything she promised because that would be worse than Trump.
 

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That's exactly what I've been saying the whole time. You keep acting like just because he said something, it'll happen.

I never said tariffs won't raise prices, I said I don't believe tech products will go up in price.


I hope ya'll didn't vote for Kamala hoping she'd do everything she promised because that would be worse than Trump.
Again, please keep the goal posts where they are.
 
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That's exactly what I've been saying the whole time. You keep acting like just because he said something, it'll happen.

I never said tariffs won't raise prices, I said I don't believe tech products will go up in price.
No, I'm acting like it could happen. Which it could.

Whereas you're assuming it won't happen, because for some unfathomable reason you feel the need to strenuously defend his stated plans.
 
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A republican going around conservative circles TOTALLY proves they are going to implement all the policies some conservative group would like.

Donald Trump said:
But this is a great group. And they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America, and that’s coming. That’s coming.
That's not just going around conservative circles, that's outright saying that this group is going to lay groundwork and detail plans for what his movement is going to do. He says it outright and only changed his tune later, when it would make him look bad because those same "plans for exactly what our movement will do" were getting bad press.
 
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That's not just going around conservative circles, that's outright saying that this group is going to lay groundwork and detail plans for what his movement is going to do. He says it outright and only changed his tune later, when it would make him look bad because those same "plans for exactly what our movement will do" were getting bad press.
Someone saying what the other person (group) wants to hear in politics, I'm super shocked by that!

The president also just can't do all these things either. Plus, half the stuff people post about Project 2025 on social media of why it's so awful aren't even in the fucking document.
 

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Someone saying what the other person (group) wants to hear in politics, I'm super shocked by that!
Again, this guy's base voted him into office under the impression he would do these things.

The president also just can't do all these things either. Plus, half the stuff people post about Project 2025 on social media of why it's so awful aren't even in the fucking document.
Like what?
 
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I put the chances of it happening pretty low so I'm not really going to be concerned about it.
You were never going to be concerned about anything he does, because it principally affects other people than yourself.
 

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The leader of Japan’s Conservative Party has sparked an uproar by advocating for a ban on women marrying after the age of 25 and having their uteruses removed at the age of 30.

This proposal was part of an overall discussion on the country’s ageing population and the problems it faces as a result of the falling birth rate.

Naoki Hyakuta, the leader of the Conservative Party, apologised after his comments sparked an immediate and sharp criticism.
In a November 8 YouTube video, noted writer and Conservative Party leader Naoki Hyakuta made the startling remark while talking about ways to boost the nation’s birthrate.

The minister proposed prohibiting women from getting married after the age of 25 and having forced hysterectomies ( uterus removal procedures) at the age of 30.

He argued that by doing this, the dropping birthrate would be reversed and they would be encouraged to have children.

The politician also suggested barring women from attending college after the age of 18, allegedly in order to concentrate on having more children.

This proposal comes after previous divisive policies to promote marriage and reproduction, such as incentives for women to marry men from rural regions, which were also criticised for being too straightforward and tone-deaf.
Hyakuta became recognised on the far right of Japanese politics in part because of his best-selling book The Eternal Zero, which was adapted into a movie that glorified kamikaze pilots in the closing days of World War II.

He was appointed to the board of national broadcaster NHK in 2013 by then-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, a move that was criticised at the time for allegedly attempting to control the organisation’s editorial independence and policies.
 

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Ok, fine, no Christmas Cakes anymore. But in return all male adult virgins are to be executed the day before they turn 30, to stem the surplus of wizards.
 

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Oh you silly conservatives saying all that nazi shit you don't really mean, unless ofcourse people vote for you anyway.
 

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Keep seeing YouTube recommend this person despite never clicking on any of her cringe af "was science wrong all this time?!?" anti-science dropout-bait thumbnails metaphorically dangling keys over a roaring sea of clapping insecure seals.Yet couldn't avoid it forever, and hearing her speak it's clear she does the same grift all the others do: assume no-one else keeps up with scientific reporting then assume/pretend science hasn't done anything nor tried doing anything in the last half a century and proceed yapping like a fucking idiot till the money stops flowing.


In this highly non-topical episode, Matt and Chris dive into the entertainingly gruff world of Sabine Hossenfelder, the German theoretical physicist and popular YouTube science communicator. Known as a joyful science curmudgeon, Sabine excels at making complex science accessible to a wide audience. Yet, there's another side to her content: one that's increasingly steeped in the YouTube algorithm’s culture-war-fueled clickbait, complete with prolific both-sidesing and even hints of her own brand of science-denialist rhetoric.

We can already imagine Sabine’s response: tone policing from establishment scolds who are trying to silence a fearless truth-teller for exposing academia’s dark underbelly. Perhaps that’s all it is—maybe Matt and Chris are aligned with BIG PHYSICS, out to quash any dissent about supersymmetry, string theory, or the academic publishing machine.

Or… maybe it’s something else. Maybe Sabine has pivoted to pander to the (so-hot-right-now) anti-establishment YouTube crowd, declaring that modern science has achieved nothing of value in 50 years and claiming that scientists (especially climate scientists) are too scared to challenge ideological dogmas for fear of jeopardizing their careers or funding.

It’s certainly one of those things.

Whatever the case, join Matt and Chris as they tackle this perplexing case of rhetorical indeterminacy, unpack YouTube audience dynamics, and delve into Sabine's unexpected alignments with Eric Weinstein and her 'sharp' critiques of Tucker Carlson.

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Tate keeps on losing.
You're still going to prison. You're not getting out.