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To live in such a simple world must be absolutely amazing for you
You can train your body to not have constant food cravings throughout the day. If you don't wanna do that, just admit it instead of coming up with some excuse for why you can't. There's many ways to get there and there's at least 1 or more ways that would work for anyone. You can use a drug to make willpower a lot less of an issue. You can do it slowly like say give up caloric drinks the 1st week (or month or whatever time frame you want), then add in say chips the next time period, then firies, then stuff like pizza with a bunch of bread, then fried foods, etc. Not that you can't ever eat those things but they can't be eaten routinely. If you wanna be healthy, you have to eat a healthy diet, there is no cheat / no hack around doing that.

For any problem, I get straight to the root and cut out any bullshit. So yeah, I keep everything as simple as possible, KISS.
 

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You can train your body to not have constant food cravings throughout the day. If you don't wanna do that, just admit it instead of coming up with some excuse for why you can't. There's many ways to get there and there's at least 1 or more ways that would work for anyone. You can use a drug to make willpower a lot less of an issue. You can do it slowly like say give up caloric drinks the 1st week (or month or whatever time frame you want), then add in say chips the next time period, then firies, then stuff like pizza with a bunch of bread, then fried foods, etc. Not that you can't ever eat those things but they can't be eaten routinely. If you wanna be healthy, you have to eat a healthy diet, there is no cheat / no hack around doing that.

For any problem, I get straight to the root and cut out any bullshit. So yeah, I keep everything as simple as possible, KISS.
I'll give you some credit (I don't know if I misunderstood or if you just hadn't said this) that you're willing to go far enough to say that people sometimes do need help with the willpower part.

Because that was my main issue with your post as I had read it to imply that all you needed to do was just not buy bad food and ignoring all the other side factors we've been talking about (depression, addiction, our brains are just assholes sometimes, etc). But if that's not what you were saying or implying, I take back my snarky meme.

I'd love to be able to just stop buying junk and just eat cleanly but for myself at least, I needed help with it (in my case, drugs) because of a bunch of other factors including depression, chronic pain, and addiction. I've got one hell of a trifecta going!
 

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Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????
 

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Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????
I mean yeah? Don't let enemies of the US; the CCP of China control mining companies in Greenland if you don't want that which they have been doing more of.

 

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Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????
Is anyone surprised? The whole world knew he was a loony who'd say things like that. Also I think he brought up the issue before.
 

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I'll give you some credit (I don't know if I misunderstood or if you just hadn't said this) that you're willing to go far enough to say that people sometimes do need help with the willpower part.

Because that was my main issue with your post as I had read it to imply that all you needed to do was just not buy bad food and ignoring all the other side factors we've been talking about (depression, addiction, our brains are just assholes sometimes, etc). But if that's not what you were saying or implying, I take back my snarky meme.

I'd love to be able to just stop buying junk and just eat cleanly but for myself at least, I needed help with it (in my case, drugs) because of a bunch of other factors including depression, chronic pain, and addiction. I've got one hell of a trifecta going!
I've said a few times already that the main problem I see with ozempic is how it's been marketed as a drug you take long term. A drug that suppresses your appetite, a key issue with eating properly and eating less obviously, can simply be used as a tool for a short period so that you can get over the sugar (carb/processed grains) withdrawals much easier. You can switch over your diet much easier and possibly negate much of the downsides (or at least the willpower aspect as you won't be hungry) of the withdrawals and thus enable people to basically switch their diet "cold turkey" to healthy foods that they probably wouldn't have been able to do otherwise or found it very hard. Getting your body used to using fat as your fuel source is the mountain you have to climb, but once you get over it, it is really easy (I never felt better just energy-wise in my life than when I was losing weight). Then once that source is gone and you sorta stabalize to where you're not using weight, it's again another challenge to just keep to your diet and not fall back. I never once denied myself food when I was hungry outside of that very 1st week or so.

I was responding to McElroy saying that willpower and appetite are things. I essentially replied back with what about just giving into your appetite but choosing to eat good foods instead? Instead of eating chips/fries/sweets, eat nuts or a steak or an omelette or whatever. If you wanna say just eating less isn't a choice because of appetite and brain signaling and all that, you can certainly choose the thing you actually pick to eat when you're hungry, right? This could be another way that can work for someone, telling them they can eat all they want, but just eat good foods when you are hungry. Someone not having to deny themselves food when hungry could be the thing that works for them as I think most people don't go on diets because that's what they think a good portion of being on a diet is and that's a massive turn off. I feel like the main systems of counting calories (or a point system) is just a horrible way to try to eat healthy. My one friend was on Weight Watchers for a bit and she commented on how she really can't order a ribeye (as I had ordered one) when we were out eating dinner because it essentially took up all her allowable points for a day (and thus would have to plan to not eat anything during the day to have a ribeye for dinner). I said that was pretty stupid that a weight program is not incentivizing eating good foods. She was off of that in probably less than a month as programs like that just don't work, plus it's dumb having to count up calories or points for everything you eat.
 
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I wrote "appetite" instead of "hunger" purposefully to include more than the typical feeling of hunger.

Anyway, over here if somebody wants to start an incretin analogue for weight loss they are usually (especially if they want the government to reimburse some of the cost) required to fix their diet first and lose some weight. Not a heavy calorie restriction like before a gastric bypass or sleeve surgery, but still something that shows results. Ozempic and co. are about keeping those results rolling. And if you quit the drug those results seem to roll back. Thus it seems that a threshold after which things get "easy" doesn't exist for a statistically significant amount of people.