Funny events in anti-woke world

[Phoenixmgs]

So... someone being improperly detained & handcuffed for a few minutes after being pulled over for speeding/reckless driving. That's worse in your book than arresting and detaining someone for two weeks without any suspicion of a crime whatsoever, just because the former is a US citizen, even though the latter is a legal permanent resident? You're gonna have to run by me how that works.



Well, I tend to avoid the term "fascist", because that term (to me as an H.E. student of history) refers to a specific group of inter-war European ultranationalist movements. "Authoritarian" is the term I'd use: a political figure who uses legal or extrajudicial powers to suppress dissent, and to force their agenda through the political system, bypassing (or destroying) intended checks and balances.

But for what it's worth, I think it's pretty pathetic to try to exclude repressive actions like those I cited just because they weren't US citizens. Initially you indicated that ICE only targets illegal immigrants, then I provided evidence that wasn't the case; then you said you'd only heard about a single legal resident being targeted, and I provided multiple examples. Every time, it's just met with shifted goalposts, whataboutism, and excuses.

I'm referring to Siaka Massaquoi, not the NFL player that I said made sense that the cops handcuffed him.

I only saw you guys provide stories of that one dude that got pulled over by ICE (that had 2 other illegals in the car) and the one guy at the college that recently got a green card. Fascist and dictator are pretty fucking serious and encompassing definitions, you can't just claim this stuff without meeting the requirements of them. It's like when a video a friend posted about covid that said it was an existential threat; no, that's not what the word existential means, and the friend even defended their use of that word... You guys using such hyperbole is why people ignore what you're saying, do you not realize this? The narrative that democracy was on the line in this election polled the worst out of all the democratic narratives. And Trump made gains across like all groups IIRC, obviously your messaging isn't working.

FDR did more fascist/dictatorial stuff than Trump but no one is going around saying the people from the 30s/40s in the US lived through a fascist/dictatorial regime.

 

[Cicada 5]

I'm referring to Siaka Massaquoi, not the NFL player that I said made sense that the cops handcuffed him.

I only saw you guys provide stories of that one dude that got pulled over by ICE (that had 2 other illegals in the car) and the one guy at the college that recently got a green card. Fascist and dictator are pretty fucking serious and encompassing definitions, you can't just claim this stuff without meeting the requirements of them. It's like when a video a friend posted about covid that said it was an existential threat; no, that's not what the word existential means, and the friend even defended their use of that word... You guys using such hyperbole is why people ignore what you're saying, do you not realize this? The narrative that democracy was on the line in this election polled the worst out of all the democratic narratives. And Trump made gains across like all groups IIRC, obviously your messaging isn't working.

FDR did more fascist/dictatorial stuff than Trump but no one is going around saying the people from the 30s/40s in the US lived through a fascist/dictatorial regime.

Just so we're clear, are you under the impression Trump is the first US president to ever be accused of being a fascist or a dictator?

 

[BrawlMan]

Suck it anti woke crowd.

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[Phoenixmgs]

Just so we're clear, are you under the impression Trump is the first US president to ever be accused of being a fascist or a dictator?

In my lifetime, yes (outside of the occasional kook saying it from time to time). The amount of people saying Trump is a fascist/dictator and actually meaning is beyond ridiculous. There's a game called Secret Hitler (a social deduction game) that made a Trump promo card (in 2016 as a joke) and that came up in conversation the other week and a friend said "what's the difference?" and meant it legitimately.

 

[Cicada 5]

In my lifetime, yes (outside of the occasional kook saying it from time to time). The amount of people saying Trump is a fascist/dictator and actually meaning is beyond ridiculous. There's a game called Secret Hitler (a social deduction game) that made a Trump promo card (in 2016 as a joke) and that came up in conversation the other week and a friend said "what's the difference?" and meant it legitimately.

So you missed Obama and Biden being called dictators?

 

[Hades]

In my lifetime, yes (outside of the occasional kook saying it from time to time). The amount of people saying Trump is a fascist/dictator and actually meaning is beyond ridiculous. There's a game called Secret Hitler (a social deduction game) that made a Trump promo card (in 2016 as a joke) and that came up in conversation the other week and a friend said "what's the difference?" and meant it legitimately.

Why is it ridiculous when Trump mirrors the behavior of the Putin's the Orban's and the Erdogan's of the world? It has always been common knowledge that Trump is closer to them then he ever was to Merkel, Obama or Rutte. Trump himself wouldn't even dispute it if you phrased it like this.

And that's an unfortunate situation when damaging, curtailing or outright overthrowing democracy is a staple of that particular way of doing things. Even without the coup Trump's brand simply has never been very compatible with democracy, and his idols all happen to be opposed to it. If Orban, Erdogan, Putin and all the others are all opposed to democracy then why would Trump magically be any different despite sharing his views and policies with those figures?

As for Adolf. I suspect your view might be colored by a rather juvenile view of Hitler as some sort of demonic entity that magically came to power in 1940 to start a war, rather than a real life politician with real life policies that had a real life effect on the country he was leading. When people make the Adolf argument they don't typically refer to the idea Trump might invade Poland and round up all the jews. They likely refer more to the transformation from Weimar to the facist hellhole of Nazi Germany. And if Trump deliberately decided to run as a demagogue with an anti democratic message he has only himself to blame when people notice similarities with other anti democratic demagogues.

 

[Silvanus]

I'm referring to Siaka Massaquoi, not the NFL player that I said made sense that the cops handcuffed him.

Oh, right. So someone who was arrested and charged with a misdemeanour (for which there is video evidence of trespass), held for 1 night and then released on 1k bail. And you believe that's worse than someone being arrested and detained for two weeks without charge or accusation of any misdemeanour or crime, solely because the former is a US citizen?

I only saw you guys provide stories of that one dude that got pulled over by ICE (that had 2 other illegals in the car) and the one guy at the college that recently got a green card.

* Zero evidence that they were 'illegals';
* I then provided you with three more examples of legal residents detained, including for 12 days.

Fascist and dictator are pretty fucking serious and encompassing definitions, you can't just claim this stuff without meeting the requirements of them.

Uh-huh, but I'm not using the terms "fascist" or "dictator", so stop waffling about this nonsense. I've directly addressed your questions. Yes, ICE targets people who aren't illegal immigrants. Yes, multiple people who're fully legal residents, without any suspected crime or misdemeanour, have been targeted by law enforcement for lengthy detention. Those are the things you asked about and I've directly addressed them.

 

[dreng3]

Speaker Mike Johnson floats eliminating federal courts as GOP ramps up attacks on judges

Fascists will do fascist stuff, I guess. Looking forward to seeing the usual suspects defend this one.

 

[Schadrach]

There's a game called Secret Hitler (a social deduction game) that made a Trump promo card (in 2016 as a joke) and that came up in conversation the other week and a friend said "what's the difference?" and meant it legitimately.

Was there an actual Trump promo card? What came with the Kickstarter fancy wooden box set was a set of decals to convert your game from Secret Hitler to Secret Trump.

Now you're making me wish I could play Secret Hitler more often, but it takes a lot of people to have a decent game. 10 player Secret Hitler is fun though.

 

[Hades]

So about that drunk defense secretary inviting a journalist to a chat discussing war plans for Yemen. Apparently that isn't even the worst thing about it. One other member of the group was in Russia during the conversation. If he didn't allow the Russians to peek inside it willingly, then they certainly hacked him.

So what about Clinton's Emails?

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Speaker Mike Johnson floats eliminating federal courts as GOP ramps up attacks on judges

Fascists will do fascist stuff, I guess. Looking forward to seeing the usual suspects defend this one.

Another thing that, had it been even suggested during the Biden administration, would've had Republicans firebombing the White House by lunchtime. But Emperor Trump must not be denied!

 

[Chimpzy]

Florida wants to loosen child-labor laws to make up for loss of migrant workers

The bill would allow children as young as 14 to work overnight shifts

www.independent.co.uk

Good, fuck them kids.

Texans Might Soon Have to Show Photo ID to Buy a Dildo Online

A new bill introduced by Angela Paxton, wife of Texas AG Ken Paxton, would impose privacy-invading age verification requirements on online sex toy retailers.

www.404media.co

Actually kinda funny

‘I’d rather go to Russia’: Joe Rogan to skip next UFC event in Canada, says he doesn’t visit anymore

He says he won’t commentate UFC 315, set to take place in Montreal

www.thestar.com

Why not, Joe?

 

[BrawlMan]

Florida wants to loosen child-labor laws to make up for loss of migrant workers

The bill would allow children as young as 14 to work overnight shifts

www.independent.co.uk

Good, fuck them kids.

Texans Might Soon Have to Show Photo ID to Buy a Dildo Online

A new bill introduced by Angela Paxton, wife of Texas AG Ken Paxton, would impose privacy-invading age verification requirements on online sex toy retailers.

www.404media.co

Actually kinda funny

‘I’d rather go to Russia’: Joe Rogan to skip next UFC event in Canada, says he doesn’t visit anymore

He says he won’t commentate UFC 315, set to take place in Montreal

www.thestar.com

Why not, Joe?

Rogan, remember what happened to the last American family whom all went Russia?

Conservative Family ‘Disappointed’ After Moving To Russia To Escape LGBTQ Ideology

Arend and his wife Anneesa Feenstra relocated their family from Canada to Russia to escape perceived LGBT ideology encroachment. However, their dream soured when their bank accounts were reportedly frozen upon arrival. Anneesa vented frustration in a deleted YouTube video, while Arend later...

www.yahoo.com

Russia don't give a shit about your wrinkly old ass either. They care about you even less.

This is worth a great watch. Goombah talks about how much a positive influence Japan has had over United States and the West for the past twenty years with its culture, anime, and manga industry.

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[Agema]

Oops the drunk defense secretary shared military information with a journalist.

I fear that these guys are rather stupid.

One can definitely point out that 40% of European trade goes through the Suez canal whereas just 3% of US. However, you then have to factor in a globalised economy and supply and demand. For instance, if it becomes much more expensive for Europe to get hold of goods that go through the Suez canal, then Europe may do things like... get goods from elsewhere. This will increase demand relative to supply from those places, so prices go up... for everyone. Or if Europe experiences hardship, Europe may spend less, and therefore buy less stuff including from the USA, so US exports decline. So what is the USA's true exposure? Less than Europe's I am sure, but almost certainly more significant than they seem to realise.

This is the point about globalisation: any shock that hits the system somewhere ripples through and hits everyone to at least some degree.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Florida wants to loosen child-labor laws to make up for loss of migrant workers

The bill would allow children as young as 14 to work overnight shifts

www.independent.co.uk

Good, fuck them kids.

Bah. If those brats were ever going to amount to anything, they'd have been smart enough to be born rich. Put 'em in the mines!

 

[Hades]

When a certain pack of grifters have fallen so low they make Ubisoft look based in comparison then we are truly living in the wildest times.

 

[Cicada 5]

If you wanted any further proof that hatred of Assassin's Creed Shadows is not motivated by any respect for Japanese people, here's Hideki Kamiya being subjected to racist trolling for defending the game.

Spoiler

https://x.com/Xelphonx/status/1904287546508521502

Xelphon: Herro, I as a ferrow Asian aglee. These insects ale larry annoying. Brock them all.

https://x.com/The_Red_Shift/status/1904189198573203497

The Red Shift: Race traitor lol.

 

[Thaluikhain]

What I find interesting(and to America's eternal shame) is that they seem to view Europe just like how Putin views Ukraine. As a threat that shows there is an alternative to their deliberate misrule and this needs to be crushed before their population realizes there is such an alternative.

Trump, Vance and the oligarchs see Europe as a source of democracy, consumer protections and welfare for the citizenry. Its a continent where the citizen and consumer has rights and protections. This threatens the status quo the oligarchs want to establish in America where the public has neither and where all power is in the hand of the oligarchs. They justify depriving the US population of healthcare, or elimitating any government program that might protect the public(or even the state) with the premise its a ''waste'' that's simply impossible to sustain. Depriving the US public of rights, protection and even their democracy under this premise is a harder sell if a flourising Europe shows these things are very much possible. Therefore they need to cripple Europe or force it into the same vile system they want to establish.

It's very similar to how Putin saw a democratic shift in Ukraine as a fundamental threat to his rule. Not because Ukraine was allegedly full of ''nazi's'' but because a somewhat stable, somewhat wealthy Ukraine looking westwards shows the perpetually opressed Russian public that improvement is possible even in the ''Russian world''.

I'd also add gun control to this, though this applies to plenty of places outside Europe. The US gun lobby keeps trying to influence other nations to weaken their gun control because it makes them look bad.

 

[Kwak]

So about that drunk defense secretary inviting a journalist to a chat discussing war plans for Yemen. Apparently that isn't even the worst thing about it. One other member of the group was in Russia during the conversation. If he didn't allow the Russians to peek inside it willingly, then they certainly hacked him.

So what about Clinton's Emails?

I thought it was even worse than that - he literally was in the kremlin at the time meeting with Putin.

 

[Chimpzy]

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5340717/vance-greenland

"A lot of other countries have threatened Greenland, have threatened to use its territories and its waterways to threaten the United States, to threaten Canada, and of course, to threaten the people of Greenland, so we're going to check out how things are going there," Vance said.

This is true. Attacks from the southwest are of particular concern.