Narrator's voice: Of course not.Have you not considered that there is probably something seriously wrong with your homegrown estimates of prehistoric ruminants?
You clearly only cut out my highest, very ballpark-y, estimation and only that. Wild cows, like the auroch, are bigger than a normal cow and would represent more than a single cow if you're computing methane production. So they would not have to be at the numbers of cows. I agree that America probably has the best habit for them, but to say there wouldn't be good numbers of them in Europe or South America or even Asia doesn't make much sense either. I can't even find population estimations of them, it is a rather unknown. I found one study about China having a lot more than originally thought, but no actual estimation given. We don't even have accurate estimations of human populations (like how wide ranging the estimation is of natives to the Americas) let alone wild cows before humans. To act like there is irrefutable evidence that cows are some major issue now and not in the past just isn't true.Have you not considered that there is probably something seriously wrong with your homegrown estimates of prehistoric ruminants?
Much of the world did not have large ruminants at all, or where some of these creatures (like aurochs / cows) did range, the habitat was not favourable to high populations in the way North America was (e.g. forest/jungle rather than grassland). For instance, Asian elephants have never had anything close to the population of African elephants for a similar reason: the habitat is far less conducive to supporting high populations.
No, quite the opposite is true (or was in the case of aurochs.) Typical middling weights for adult cattle are ~1100 kg for a bull and ~700 kg for a cow. That compares with (wild) buffalo at ~900kg and ~500kg respectively. Aurochs were taller than cows, but lighter (estimated ~700kg average and ~1000kg at the higher end for males).Wild cows, like the auroch, are bigger than a normal cow and would represent more than a single cow if you're computing methane production.
There's a very clear balance of evidence going on here. That you're now dropping in the term "irrefutable" is perhaps something of an indicator.So they would not have to be at the numbers of cows. I agree that America probably has the best habit for them, but to say there wouldn't be good numbers of them in Europe or South America or even Asia doesn't make much sense either. I can't even find population estimations of them, it is a rather unknown. I found one study about China having a lot more than originally thought, but no actual estimation given. We don't even have accurate estimations of human populations (like how wide ranging the estimation is of natives to the Americas) let alone wild cows before humans. To act like there is irrefutable evidence that cows are some major issue now and not in the past just isn't true.
Huh, I was going to complain about someone bringing this foolishness up again after almost 2 weeks, but then I learnt something about aurochs, so there's that.Aurochs were taller than cows, but lighter (estimated ~700kg average and ~1000kg at the higher end for males).
I'm not either. There've been variations of attacking the platform, the concept of debate itself, or your opponent as some form of -ist or -phobe and if they can't prove otherwise you win sort of arguments being the fad for several years now. "My opponent posted something naughty on social media, therefore his argument is invalid" just seems like an evolution of those.https://www.thefp.com/p/personal-tweets-lose-high-school-debates
Wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. I'm really not.
'Can't prove otherwise'I'm not either. There've been variations of attacking the platform, the concept of debate itself, or your opponent as some form of -ist or -phobe and if they can't prove otherwise you win sort of arguments being the fad for several years now. "My opponent posted something naughty on social media, therefore his argument is invalid" just seems like an evolution of those.
The term used in policy debate circles is a Kritik (though Kritiks are broader than just this class of arguments), but I don't know if you're familiar.'Can't prove otherwise'
What is this nonsense?
Can you link me to somewhere I can read about that? I had a quick search but couldn't find it.The term used in policy debate circles is a Kritik (though Kritiks are broader than just this class of arguments), but I don't know if you're familiar.
To use an example, there was an infamous case in 2008 where the topic was farm tariffs, and one of the sides made the mistake of addressing the actual assigned topic. The other declared that racism is inherent to the topic of farm tariffs and thus by engaging with the actual topic her opponent was fostering white supremacy then spent the rest of her time discussing the trans-Atlantic slave trade, reading from her diary, etc. She won that debate, because her opponent failed to provide a sufficient argument that a policy debate about farm tariffs was not the right forum to discuss racism.
I would say generally no, it's a bunch of filthy tories. I'm sure some of the people there are okay.Does the BBC qualify as a "woke world" ? Because.
Ok. I have a partial vision of it because what I consume from the BBC (series à la doctor who or panel shows) is consistently openly progressive.I would say generally no, it's a bunch of filthy tories. I'm sure some of the people there are okay.
As an outside, it seems the BBC went downhill pretty fast not that long ago, along with quite a few British institutions.Ok. I have a partial vision of it because what I consume from the BBC (series à la doctor who or panel shows) is consistently openly progressive.
It's the news/current affairs aspects that's an issue with the BBC (I haven't seen their drama output for years as I won't pay for a licence).Ok. I have a partial vision of it because what I consume from the BBC (series à la doctor who or panel shows) is consistently openly progressive.
Not as fast as the ABC did.As an outside, it seems the BBC went downhill pretty fast