Furry Morality Question

[Daverson]

A lot of people are talking about "fursecution". So... here's something interesting...

Historically the argument that was used to allow slave ownership was "we don't feel they deserve to be given humans rights, because we don't believe they are human". Almost all discrimination uses some variant of this excuse (untermensch and all that).

If such a thing were to exist, you can bet someone's going to come up with the thought "they're no longer genetically human, ergo, they aren't human".

But, hey, maybe we've entered a new age of enlightenment and tolerance where this sort of thing won't happen, who knows?

Anyway...

I don't think I'd take the serum. But I'm not a furry, so, go figure... now, if you were offering something like a replacement arm that shoots lasers, I'd jump on that. What could we get from animals? The ability to smell funky and roll in our own dung? I'll pass. Plus I can't barely stand what little hair I've got, fur would be a fucking nightmare.

 

[ThatLankyBastard]

Wait... does the serum change your DNA so your children would be furries too?

I'm looking at the future here!

BTW: Hells yeah! Sign me up!

 

[Voodoomancer]

I'd have to think about it.

Also...

Spoiler: -OP snip-

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

...is it just me or does this sound like the prelude to an anime?

 

[Mr Smiles]

I'd have to think about it.

Also...

Spoiler: -OP snip-

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

...is it just me or does this sound like the prelude to an anime?

a japanese best selling anime...

who knows? throw in some necrophelia stuff and you have your next twilight

 

[bubumadrid]

I'd do it just for the prehensile tail. Some spots on the back are a pain to get at.

 

[Fetzenfisch]

no thanks i prefer being a freak in behaviour not in looks, plus i am very happy with my strenght, intelligence, fitness and whatever.
not that i am all against mutants, but well...not that kind

 

[Jacob Haggarty]

...yeeeeaaaaah, i'm going to pass on this one. Minor changes to my brain power and strength, while i mutate into some sort of human-animal hybrid monster? I'll stick with being human, with all it's wonderful flaws, thank you very much.

 

[Jewrean]

That exact thing you are talking about happens in Batman Beyond episode 1 of Season 2. Couldn't find the whole episode but here is the final fight scene:


Oh and just for good measure here is Batman making out with a literal cat-woman furry:


I loled at that one.

As for me? I might consider it if my life took a turn for the worse. It would also depend on what animal and how strong a dosage the serum was. For example if I could take a small dose with only small side-effects and boosts then I would be even more convinced.

 

[maddness666]

Yes.

 

[John the Gamer]

Sure why not. Humans are animals too you know. We're just smarter and less... furry.

 

[Corporal Yakob]

Become a Furry as efficient as Daft Punk!?! Yes please!


(After 5 mins struggling, that was the best pun I could come up with >_>)

 

[Pinstar]

I fail to see a downside.
OK maybe one.

Say I took the serum and turned into a raccoon and my wife took it and turned into, say, an arctic fox. Would we be able to have another child together? Or would our one son be it. If we gave him the serum, would he turn into some sort of fox/raccoon hybrid or something else entirely?

 

[7777777777444]

I fail to see a downside.
OK maybe one.

Say I took the serum and turned into a raccoon and my wife took it and turned into, say, an arctic fox. Would we be able to have another child together? Or would our one son be it. If we gave him the serum, would he turn into some sort of fox/raccoon hybrid or something else entirely?

I was kinda considering this fact, but I though that perhaps, if the serum it self is gotten from the manufactors, then both you and your wife could be the same speices. But I would not be suprised if it turns out that if you had another child, it would be a hybrid.

Now, on to my side of the opionin: Yes, I support it. I can't say that I would nessisaraly use this serum, under certain curcumstances, I would. Plus, more power to the furries out there; They need all the help they can get.

 

[Coldster]

As long as I don't have furries trying to have sex with me then I would take it in a heartbeat.

 

[Andreas55k]

I would be Reluctant... I would not blame anyone who did it... I just dont think i would do it... I dont have any other thing to back it up with other than, "I feel like i should not do it"...

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Hey, if I have superhuman abilities and the way to rock a pair of kick-ass wolf ears, I'm doing it. I'm already discriminated against, it'll just make it more obvious discrimination so yeah. Fuck it, I'd go for it.

 

[Pakkie]

Fuck yes

 

[alrekr]

No, basically because in my over-whatifrical mind I'd be asking myself what the downfall, the catch, or the side effects are to this drug beyond it's furriness.

I imagine that instincts and basic animalistic urges would heighten as well, leading to territorial wars and a loss of organized society without some construct of alpha males ruling over prides or packs. Could also lead to a loss of ingenuity, which is tied to but not exclusive to intelligence. Without ingenuity you lose creativity and end up a work horse, being able to solve equations and life heavy objects but not so good at being inventiveNot to mention that by exploiting the new, heightened animalistic urges of the Furs, non-users may easily be able to manipulate them into doing the grunt work thus creating class systems where the Humans are on top and the Furs are near bottom., which is integral to my line of work so...

Nope.

Well thats assuming that humans don't have any of this already I have you forgotten that we are animals already, just another group of mammals. We have alpha males, our presidents, kings, queens, prime ministers.

Also not all animasl follow the same social patterns. Meerkats have a rather socialist group structure. Wolves tend to live alone and sometimes group in packs for a time. Most human behaviour is due to society and upbrining. Humans have the potential for language, doesn't mean we will learn it though.

The idea of human-animal hybrids has been floating around for a while now (Focus did a article on this about a year ago at least) and there are some cases of people acting on these theories (key gorrila penis replacements for men)


Bottom line: Who wouldn't want to be Hank Mccoy (a.k.a Beast) the blue furred genius (we also happens to be preety popular with the ladies post furrifaction).

I have not forgotten, dear poster. But really in what ways would Meerkat genetics introduced into our system be beneficial?

Actually that's a good question, what animal parts would we grow? And why would I want a gorilla penis?

Well that's beside the point, what's important is that we human animals appear to be more in control of our animal urges and in some ways are, but not entirely. Introduction of a syrum that can potentially offset ingenuity for intelligence would weaken our control over those urges and it'd bee soon that we'd be unable to be civil about matters.

Presidential debates would be more interesting though.

If your interested here is a link to the focus issue they covered this in: http://sciencefocus.com/issue/i-chimera

Here's the link for marxist meerkats: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1401130/Animals-who-learn-Marxism-in-nursery.html

I still disagree about animals not having ingenuity, chimps have been found to have crafted basic tools such as using stick to get to termites.

 

[Sansha]

So, a Worgen from WoW?

Fuck yes, I'm sold.

 

[Your Fearless Captain]

I wouldn't. Who the fuck wants to maintain all that fur?