Furry Morality Question

[Quaidis]

People are really thinking in the 'now'. If this generation became furries to up their intelligence or power or whatnot for the better of themselves, would they be descriminated against?

What about the fore-future? Would you be able to have children if you became genetically modified? Or would you become sterile? And if such half halflings came about, what about how their futures would be? Would they have the same powers? Or would your wife (or yourself) just have really butt ugly babies with strange animal deformities?

So the real question is. If you became a furry to better yourself, could you live with the possible consequences of no longer having sex? Or getting your package removed for the 'better of human kind' if such a law was made?

 

[Ryengu]

Furry is not a sexual fetish by nature.

You're joking, right?
Right?


Warning: This may offend you

Spoiler

"Another often-used tactic is to deflect the blame of all of the terrible and awful things about the Furry community onto a small, anonymous group referred to as 'Furverts' (Basically, Furries into all of that nasty stuff). While it's true that not ALL Furries take delight in reading stories about gay threesomes featuring Disney characters, the majority do. The most popular and biggest Furry websites, the most popular Furry IRC channels, the most popular Furry newsgroups ALL cater to this fetish, the adult items sections on Furbid always have the most items for sale, it's quite clear that all of this can't be the result of one or two 'Furverts' spoiling things for the poor oppressed Furries (Persecution complex again). Is it really unreasonable when presented with all of this evidence to come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Furries are into some incomprehensibly f****** weird stuff? No, no it's not."

http://www.godhatesfurries.com/index.php?p=dealing

So "the internet is for porn" is only inapplicable when there's an opportunity to slam someone? My contention is that there is something that appeals about the anthro physique, porn aspects aside. I know several anthro artists that rarely if ever draw porn. As well, there is a difference between "porn" and "artistic nudes", go ask the greeks about that.

 

[drisky]

Well I'm against genetic engineering (for non-medical purposes) it the first place, although since this is a boost rather than full on building perfection, Its not quite as severe. Still I don't think I want to artificially enhance my intelligence or anything like that.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Wait wait wait. No matter how you might change your physical apearance or your species or whatever, you will still be a person.

You sir, are a racist for thinking that becoming something other than human suddenly makes you less of a person.

Except in this case it does. You're taking in animal characteristics for no reason other than "I wanna be different". It's completley unnecessary and highly disturbing that people would so freely altar their bodies in drastic ways over such trivial issues. And no, pointing this out doesn't make me a racist.

How can you intentionally acquire the characteristics of wild animals and then be outraged when people treat you more like one? You'd be doing this to yourself. It's not something you're born with. It's you're own creepy decision.

You are never forced to interact with anyone. You weigh the pros and cons of doing so such as "that person needs to bathe... but if I avoid helping my manager might fire me"

And you can not look me in the eyes and tell me that many humans are less of an animal than some wolf guy working at the store down the street.

Yes I can.

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.

 

[SodaDew]

Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?

 

[Iron Lightning]

Of course, if the price to better grasp the nature of the universe is having an octopus for a face then I'd certainly go through with it.

As an added bonus, I'd be able to get lots of hot Japanese chicks. Win-win situations for the win.

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

I'd volunteer to be a dog-man to try and see just how tolerant Australians are. We're already pretty tolerant of furries compared to Americans, unless said Australian frequents IRC and is part of the jaded internet user community, due to laid-back ignorance, so I'd love to see just how much energy Australian fundies would have in crying foul at the sight of scientific abominations potentially worse than stem-cell research guinea pigs.

 

[Internet Kraken]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.

Yes, I am a racist for being opposed to completley unnecessary, disgusting, disturbing, and bizarre genetic modifications. I am a racist for thinking of somebody as a less of a person because they are intentionally becoming part animal and acting like one. Even though by definition they really are less of a person. They're acting like animals.

Any society that is so accepting towards massive genetic modifications for frivolous reasons is one I don't want to be part of.

Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

Tow things; A) People who become animals are creepy when they permenantly change their body in order to do so B) A society that is tolerant towards massive genetic modifications for trivial reasons is one that is setting itself up for disaster. Genetic modification is a dangerous thing, and it must be handled with care to ensure that is not abused.

 

[KhakiHat]

I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...

 

[idodo35]

i wouldnt use it ...
if its not cap level it doesnt worth it!

 

[NiPah]

without hesitation, and yes see avatar.

A similar idea was brought up with cyborgs in Starcraft, led to non-cybernetic humans to wage war, resulting in all cyborgs to be put in prison. Hopefully this wouldn't happen:

 

[Vyce]

Unless dragons or lizards are involved then no (Or anything to do with scales really)

 

[artanis_neravar]

Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?

Well if you believe in god, then god gave us the ability to do this, so how could it be wrong?

 

[gbemery]

If you were great at procrastination would this make you superhuman at procrastination because I really don't need to procrastinate more than I do already.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...

Uh...

Dolphins kill their own kin for shits and giggles. If anything, you'd risk becoming a psychopath.

Also, Kraken's anti-mutant sentiments makes me wonder if he takes joy in killing animals. Oh, perish the thought!

 

[Double A]

No, that's idiotic. We evolved into humans, no point in growing a tail again. If Mother Nature says we don't need it, I'm inclined to agree with her.

Don't fuck with nature, at least not so drastically over such a short period of time.

 

[artanis_neravar]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

 

[Ryengu]

How can you intentionally acquire the characteristics of wild animals and then be outraged when people treat you more like one?

Because a sapient being is still a sapient being, and the listed effects of the serum have no negative impact on intelligence, in fact they have a positive one. Take a look at Beast from X-men, he's pretty much the perfect example for this argument. Is he any less of a person because he has animal traits?