Furry Morality Question

[Vidi Kitty]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.

Yes, I am a racist for being opposed to completley unnecessary, disgusting, disturbing, and bizarre genetic modifications. I am a racist for thinking of somebody as a less of a person because they are intentionally becoming part animal and acting like one. Even though by definition they really are less of a person. They're acting like animals.

Any society that is so accepting towards massive genetic modifications for frivolous reasons is one I don't want to be part of .

You keep confusing taking on traits of an animal with becoming one. You also keep assuming that this is only going to be used by those durn furries who have nothing better to do than be an animal. You ALSO keep thinking that society in general is going to be OK with these modifications, or that people given the chance to use them are doing to give a damn.

People are going to do what they are going to do no matter what society or someone's god or some hateful fellow on the internet might think.

On a side note, how religious are you? scale of 1-10, no specifics, just want to know how much that is playing into your thought processes.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Furry is not a sexual fetish by nature.

You're joking, right?
Right?


Warning: This may offend you

Spoiler

"Another often-used tactic is to deflect the blame of all of the terrible and awful things about the Furry community onto a small, anonymous group referred to as 'Furverts' (Basically, Furries into all of that nasty stuff). While it's true that not ALL Furries take delight in reading stories about gay threesomes featuring Disney characters, the majority do. The most popular and biggest Furry websites, the most popular Furry IRC channels, the most popular Furry newsgroups ALL cater to this fetish, the adult items sections on Furbid always have the most items for sale, it's quite clear that all of this can't be the result of one or two 'Furverts' spoiling things for the poor oppressed Furries (Persecution complex again). Is it really unreasonable when presented with all of this evidence to come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Furries are into some incomprehensibly f****** weird stuff? No, no it's not."

http://www.godhatesfurries.com/index.php?p=dealing

So "the internet is for porn" is only inapplicable when there's an opportunity to slam someone? My contention is that there is something that appeals about the anthro physique, porn aspects aside. I know several anthro artists that rarely if ever draw porn. As well, there is a difference between "porn" and "artistic nudes", go ask the greeks about that.

Allow me to quote someone in this regard

It?s intent. I?m an artist too, and the difference is that I draw stuff for the sake of art. A picture of a ninja stabbing a guy (for example) isn?t a blueprint for my future endeavors, it?s a picture of a ninja doing what ninjas do. You draw pictures to jerk off and that?s wrong bro. You don?t walk into the museum, take a look at Picasso?s ?Des Mademoiselles D?Avignon?, pull down your pants and play with your paintbrush. Why? Because intent is half of art, and the greats did what they did to express emotion, stories, real life, the abstract, etc. There intent was never to get some guy in his basement to have a hard on. You intended for people to get off to your drawings and that?s the difference.

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

 

[artanis_neravar]

I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...

Uh...

Dolphins kill their own kin for shits and giggles. If anything, you'd risk becoming a psychopath.

Also, Kraken's anti-mutant sentiments makes me wonder if he takes joy in killing animals. Oh, perish the thought!

Kralen's anti-mutant sentiments are exactly why Magneto formed the Brotherhood

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Rrac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
[rey-siz-uhm]

?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Last I checked, furries are not a race. They are a group.

And what if I hate them because I understand them?

Here is the thing: I understand furries. I really do. And that is what helped me form my opinion

 

[Vidi Kitty]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

Kralen's anti-mutant sentiments are exactly why Magneto formed the Brotherhood

I dunno, last I heard, ol' Mags went "evil" because he killed people out of frustration at being persecuted (for being jewish, at that), not because he takes joy in killing children.

But yeah! If people are so against hybrids, why can't they just take it upon themselves and attempt their own brand of genetic cleansing by use of heavy ordinance? Better than arguing, I'd say.

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

Tow things; A) People who become animals are creepy when they permenantly change their body in order to do so B) A society that is tolerant towards massive genetic modifications for trivial reasons is one that is setting itself up for disaster. Genetic modification is a dangerous thing, and it must be handled with care to ensure that is not abused.

Two things:

A.) Women with wolf muzzles are lovely (As subjective as your first assessment, so there ya go, here's the opposite argument)

B) A society that is tolerant beats a society that recklessly tries to beat down an issue like it doesn't exist, allowing the corrupt to make it happen anyway behind our backs. And who exactly sets the standard for frivolity--you? I find celebrities frivolous. That doesn't stop Botox treatments, that's for certain--I somehow doubt it's a frivolity you can stave off forever with personal distaste.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Stop looking for porn then.

EDIT: Best 100th post ever.

 

[Grabbin Keelz]

Isn't this like DE-evolution? The whole reason that were humans is because we're smarter and more dexterous than any animal on earth. This would just be a step back.

 

[Internet Kraken]

You keep confusing taking on traits of an animal with becoming one. You also keep assuming that this is only going to be used by those durn furries who have nothing better to do than be an animal. You ALSO keep thinking that society in general is going to be OK with these modifications, or that people given the chance to use them are doing to give a damn.

People are going to do what they are going to do no matter what society or someone's god or some hateful fellow on the internet might think.

And I'd say if you're changing your body in such a drastic way, you have mental issues. It's creepy, it's weird, it's bizarre, and there's no reason to bring it out of you mind and into general society. Fuck, I think about a lot of weird shit to but you don't see me flaunting it.

On a side note, how religious are you? scale of 1-10, no specifics, just want to know how much that is playing into your thought processes.

Not applicable. I believe in no god and follow no religion, however I do not deny the potential for a god to exist. Basically, I don't think about religion. Dwelling on it for years brought me nothing so I moved on.

B) A society that is tolerant beats a society that recklessly tries to beat down an issue like it doesn't exist, allowing the corrupt to make it happen anyway. And who exactly sets the standard for frivolity--you? I find celebrities frivolous. That doesn't stop Botox treatments, that's for certain--I somehow doubt it's a frivolity you can stave off forever with personal distaste.

This is not something that society should be tolerant about though. We should not accept rampant genetic modification as a good thing. And there's a world of difference between a botox treatment and becoming a hybrid. The difference being that one is altering a person on the genetic level.

 

[artanis_neravar]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Rrac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
[rey-siz-uhm]

?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Last I checked, furries are not a race. They are a group.

And what if I hate them because I understand them? Which is the case here.

If you hate people who want to become hybrids, which would be a race, then it would be racism.
And hating something that you fully understand makes you a terrible person

 

[jimahaff]

Would mixing with certain animals give you certain traits? like would being part dolphin let you breathe under water? part eagle let you fly? Part star fish give you regeneration? If so then this would be a very hard choice.
If not I might not go for it. I am satisfied with who I am.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

I don't deny that furries have a right to be furries. They do. They have the right to draw what they want, write what they want, speek what they want, ect.

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Rrac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
[rey-siz-uhm]

?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Last I checked, furries are not a race. They are a group.

And what if I hate them because I understand them? Which is the case here.

If you hate people who want to become hybrids, which would be a race, then it would be racism.
And hating something that you fully understand makes you a terrible person

Really now? Lets turn around that last stement

Do you like racism? Yes? Then you are a bad person

No? You hate it? That makes you a terrible person!

How could I hate something WITHOUT understanding it.


And we would be dealing with another species, not another race, so you can go ahead and put away your "race card".
However, furries are not the only ones with these rights. They have every right to write bad fanfiction, and I have every right to call it stupid.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Kralen's anti-mutant sentiments are exactly why Magneto formed the Brotherhood

I dunno, last I heard, ol' Mags went "evil" because he killed people out of frustration at being persecuted (for being jewish, at that), not because he takes joy in killing children.

Wait....what? when did I mention killing children?

 

[Ryengu]

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Then I can honestly say you haven't been looking very closely. Sorry.

 

[artanis_neravar]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

I don't deny that furries have a right to be furries. They do. They have the right to draw what they want, write what they want, speek what they want, ect.

However, furries are not the only ones with these rights. They have every right to write bad fanfiction, and I have every right to call it stupid.

You seem to be talking about people who like furry drawings videos etc, instead of human animal hybrids that the racist comment incorporated

 

[Vidi Kitty]

You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.

Wait, you are serious?

Spoiler

Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.

If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist

Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>

I don't deny that furries have a right to be furries. They do. They have the right to draw what they want, write what they want, speek what they want, ect.

However, furries are not the only ones with these rights. They have every right to write bad fanfiction, and I have every right to call it stupid.

All bad fan fiction is stupid. And everyone has the right to like and dislike as they please. I just drawn the line at people being willfully ignorant (not you specifically) and trying to force their opinions on others.

 

[DeltaWolfson]

Yes you may do some art work, but you need to know that's it a different type of art others may like it you may not. Thats how art worked for the last two hundred years. Lastly and also sorry to rain on your parade but wake up it's the 21st Century that type of art furry or not is every where.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

Sounds like the beginning of a really badly written comic book.

But seriously, I'm not a furry, so I wouldn't get some sort of fetish enjoyment out of it or anything...The superhuman trait thing...well I probably wouldn't do it to be honest. Maybe when I'm like 70 or something, but just for the lulz. Besides, if everyone takes the serum, then you're not really the smartest or anything, just one of many, so it wouldn't really set you apart in any other way than...you had fur.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Stop looking for porn then.

EDIT: Best 100th post ever.

I don't, but that does not prevent some furries I have agrued with to post it in response.

And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.

Then I can honestly say you haven't been looking very closely. Sorry.

Perhaps. However, I don't frequently google "Yiff", so that could be the issue here.