Gabe Newell Gives Away Personal Steam Password

Therumancer

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CrystalShadow said:
unoleian said:
Delusibeta said:
Spot the spelling error.
I don't dectect anything.

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I wonder, what happens if someone has an identical PC build? Do they somehow log serial numbers as well? I'm not entirely familiar with this hardware security concept.
It doesn't work that way. (and it wont work at all on all but the newest intel CPU's).

This is like having a specific code in your computer that no other computer on the planet has.

I'm sure there's a way to crack it, but just having an identical PC won't do the trick, because the internal code number (or whatever it actually is) would still be different.

The problem with this is that it can be used by a company to screw you over later.
Making sure something you buy will only work on one computer. Ever.

Yeah... A very scary technology disguised as something 'useful'.
The same thought occured to me as well, with all the money I've invested in STEAM despite not liking the digital platform (hey those sales are tempting!) I don't want to lose it all whenever I next get a new PC.
 

smaug85

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Wait but wasn't steam's large gimmick (other then downloading from a store straight to your computer) that you can download and all you need is your account and you can play it on any computer? Oh and they fixed the "dectect" thing, now it's just a small square saying your computer is not authorized to open this account and what not.
 

Orcus The Ultimate

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BlackWidower said:
Here's the problem. What if your account is paired with a system that suddenly disintegrates and you need to buy a new one. What do you do?
then you're fucked (pardon me the expression), and you can sue Valve for a monetary prize!
 

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MrMoustaffa said:
omicron1 said:
MoolyFTW, eh?


Urban Dictionary says it (mooly) is a derogatory term used by Italians for black people... or just "eggplant."

So, is Gabe Newell a secret racist? Or a fan of Eggplant Parmesan?

Only asking him directly will tell.
Given what we know about Gabe, I'm pretty sure its safe to say that its the latter...



(btw that was a fat joke for all of you that didnt get it :p)
Every time you call Gabe fat Episode 3 gets delayed another week.
 

mireko

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BlackWidower said:
Here's the problem. What if your account is paired with a system that suddenly disintegrates and you need to buy a new one. What do you do?
Move away from the DEATH RAY FACTORY.
 

CrystalShadow

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Therumancer said:
CrystalShadow said:
unoleian said:
Delusibeta said:
Spot the spelling error.
I don't dectect anything.

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I wonder, what happens if someone has an identical PC build? Do they somehow log serial numbers as well? I'm not entirely familiar with this hardware security concept.
It doesn't work that way. (and it wont work at all on all but the newest intel CPU's).

This is like having a specific code in your computer that no other computer on the planet has.

I'm sure there's a way to crack it, but just having an identical PC won't do the trick, because the internal code number (or whatever it actually is) would still be different.

The problem with this is that it can be used by a company to screw you over later.
Making sure something you buy will only work on one computer. Ever.

Yeah... A very scary technology disguised as something 'useful'.
The same thought occured to me as well, with all the money I've invested in STEAM despite not liking the digital platform (hey those sales are tempting!) I don't want to lose it all whenever I next get a new PC.
It's already a fact of life on game consoles.

Wiiware & the virtual console is all well and good, but if I lose my console for any reason, it's all gone. (And there is literally no way to transfer it. - Although, it appears Nintendo has noticed this problem with their systems, and created a way for 3DS downloads to be transferred between units.)

I don't know if the PS3 and Xbox 360 are quite that bad, but somehow I'm not inclined to think they're much better. (There's no incentive to do any better than that on a closed proprietary system.)
 

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So, basically, hackers are a hornets nest. And Gabe Newell goes "I'm going to stick my penis in that."

Addendum: Why do these guys think their stuff can't be hacked? For every security system made by the top minds of computer security, there is always one guy in their mom's basement with the lights off that hasn't seen the sun in a month that is smarter then all of them put together and has absolutely NOTHING better to do then to break it.
 

MasterSplinter

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This comment got 221 thumbs up on youtube: "Gabe should lose some weight. I don't say this to be an asshole, I say this because it would be a fucking tragedy for my favourite video game entrepreneur to die young."
 

Ellen of Kitten

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I can't help but wonder if this is actually more low-risk to Gabe than we think. The man runs the show over there at Valve. He has administrator access to steam. I can't imagine that if anything happens to his account, he can't just take five minutes to undo, and make one or two critical changes. Let alone just make a NEW account.
 

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Citrus Insanity said:
If any other company did something like this, I'm sure their system would be hacked in hours, but knowing Valve and based on what I've read about SteamGuard, I can't see that happening. It seems like a pretty impressive security system.

Nevertheless, I'm sure there are tons of hacking communities losing sleep over this anyway.

Yeah, but what are the chances that it really is his account? Like it isn't within Valve's power to create a dummy account with those credentials, so that even in the slim chance that somebody DID manage to break in, they'd find jack all. Or that account might not even be a 'real' account, and that any attempt to access that 'account' would just spit up that warning, and that there isn't any actual password pr way to access the account. It could all just be a marketing ploy, because Valve fans are dedicated enough to check out GDC and to actually try this. I wouldn't put it past them that the 'Dectected' was done on purpose.


The funny thing about conspiracies, is that you'll always find them where you're looking for them... :p
 

cynicalsaint1

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So now Gabe Newell has outright CHALLENGED hackers (people who are DEDICATED to finding ways around the most complex computer security systems) to hack his computer not only giving his login data but also defiantly claiming that it can't be done.

So, how long do you thing it will take before this comes back to bite him in the arse?

Taking all bets people! Taking all bets!
This is why it's so brilliant though - even if his account does end up getting hacked - they still win, because it will only help them identify security holes. I mean really, think about it - what better way to test your security system by asking every hacker on the internet to have at it?
 

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Sooo....what if, hypothetically, someone was to run a private server and collect all of these players' IP and MAC addresses? Then they spoof theirs to be the exact same? I have to imagine Valve thought of this, but it just seems like it would be easy to crack an account if you had all of the information.
 

Veylon

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Let me see if I've got this straight.

When someone tries to connect to Gabe's account, the Server will demand some sort of code or key that proves the connection is from Gabe's computer, right?

If that's the case, what the hacker needs, all the hacker needs, is this code which Gabe's computer knows but no other computer does. So it seems a pretty good bet for him that no computer can guess what the code might be. So, unless there's some other flaw in the Steam system, he's safe. Or am I wrong?