Game ruined by its fans

[Atmos Duality]

DOTA/LoL/(insert MOBA variant derived from original DOTA crowd)

Holy shit does this game drive people nuts. Or stupid.
It's great in how team-centric it can be (and when you get a good team playing in harmony, it's really damn fun), but this also means its just as susceptible to pure griefing.

Today, I just do bot-games on LoL purely for yucks (and when I'm not swamped in homework).

Thinking about starting a regular topic on LoL champs (non-competitive, naturally) just to shoot the shit.

 

[70R4N]

Portal

HEY GUYZ, THE CAEK IZ A LIE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLOL!!!!!11!!!eleven!!!!one!!111

 

[MurderousToaster]

Minecraft.

"IT'S SO INNOVATIVE AND SO FUN AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS PERFECT AND I CAN WATCH FOUR TRILLION LETS PLAYS IN A ROW AND STILL WHINE ON THE INTERNET FOR MORE. NOTCH IS SUCH A GENIUS FOR INVENTING HIS OWN GENRE AND I WANT HIM INSIDE OF ME OH DEAR GOD." can pretty much (with some liberally-applied hyperbole) summarise why I hate Minecraft fanboys/girls.

Seriously. I have seen so many people non-stop yapping about Minecraft (even when Minecraft is totally irrelevant to the subject) that it makes me despise them. Aside from the fact that many of them are sort of ignorant about how totally "original" and "innovative" it actually is, they also just...don't...shut...up.

There's also the huge fucking hipster demographic who play that game that can all go and die.

I used to think that game was fun. It's like if you eat a caramel chocolate bar and think it's nice, but then you realise that everyone else is always eating the same chocolate bar and eventually the smell of caramel makes you feel sick.

 

[Gottesstrafe]

For me, it'd be a toss up between Warhammer and Kingdom Hearts. On one hand, the neck beard army that seems to almost exclusively make up WH40K's fanbase repulses me and quashes any enthusiasm I might've shown for the game from the get go. On the other hand, so does the blatant Weeaboo army that surrounds Kingdom Hearts. I played KH when I was 13 and genuinely liked it, but the kinds of fans it's gathered since then turned KH2 from a sought after sequel to a guilty pleasure that I hide right below my porn stash. It almost rivals Naruto's fanbase in the kinds of obnoxious fawning you'd see in its dedicated forums. And don't get me started on the tons of horrible cosplay (Protip: black face does NOT make you look like a heartless).

And then there's the Bioware fanboys...

 

[demalo]

This has probably already been said, but honestly it can't be stressed enough...

I don't think it's fans that ruin the game for people. I see genuine fans actually helping other players, working together as a team in multiplayer games, or positively promoting the games that they love. The only people that ruin games for me are those that cheat by using/exploiting mods, hacks, cracks, bugs in a game, or for lack of a better word... dickheads (you know the ones that kill their teammates all the time - and not the same as someone new, it's possible to tell the difference).

I recently played COD: WOW and was shocked when another player picked me up, moved me through walls across the map, and placed me in a room that had all exits blocked by trucks. It's shit like this that pisses me off about cheaters. It's one thing to show a few friends and maybe people in the game that you can do amazing shit like hack the online system, but to use it to exploit other players in the game to get achievements is just lazy. I quite the game and moved to another. I eventually found myself in with the same player, or someone with the same hack/crack and I left again. I'm just looking for a little kick-back time and i'm not wasting it while someone decides they want to be a jokester. That ruins a game.

I can understand the issue with people who play games like Halo too, they think they're so superior because they play 8-12 hours a day and can 'no scope' a 'newbie' that only has a few hours a month to play. Again, they're not fans because they play Halo for 8 hours a day, they're fanatics. Zealots that have no business 'tea bagging' any opponents. Again - something totally acceptable when playing with friends that you don't mind dicking around with, but complete strangers, seriously? Tea bagging strangers is only appropriate if they cheat or you're reciprocating an inappropriate tea bagging.

Fans respect the games they play and the players they play with. Fans don't go out of their way to ruin games, they go out of their way to make the game better. It's the fanatics you need to look out for. They ruin the game.

 

[RaikuFA]

monster fucking hunter

the elitism that oozes from this crap is sickening. unless you know people who play, stay away from online and offline? youre gonna need help. "youre not good at this game at all unless youve played the first one. youre too stupid to know how to play" youd think itd be just one or two people right? its at least 75% of the community, the other 25%? theyre constantly harassed for not getting past a certain hunt, not being at a certain rank or using a weapon type that the "elites" dont use

ill stick with god eater, its the same thing but with a much friendlier community. MUCH friendlier

 

[Arkynomicon]

Guild Wars.

Community gets worse by the year.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Is there a game you really like or even just like that you don't like to admit you like because of how terrible the fans of the game are or even can't enjoy as much because of how everywhere the fans of the game are? For me it'd probably be Halo

Fans don't ruin games.

The only problems fans create for games exist inside the head of those who gives a crap about the fans, aka. you. Or in short: It's you who are ruining Halo for yourself, because you are letting the fanbase affect you when you don't have to.

Fans, however, sometimes ruins sequels because developers sometimes let them have too much influence instead of following their instincts.

This!! Stop listening to your fans developers! They don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, and will never EVER be satisfied no matter what you do.

Every game ever, really. Or anything, for that matter. Fans can be pretty damn obnoxious.

But also this. Goddamnit I hate fandom!!

 

[Dracowrath]

Final Fantasy 7. The massive amount of fanboys/fangirls for this game seem to color peoples opinion that it's a crap game, completely forgetting that if it WAS crap, it wouldn't have nearly this many fans.

 

[Nami nom noms]

Star Wars Galaxies wasn't ruined by it's 'fans', but it was unable to recover due to them.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Call of Duty...all of them.

Mighty ninja!

Also League of legends/Heroes of Newerth

Though I still play

LoL fans don't bother me so much. The worst they can do is raz you in chat, and there is an ignore feature for that.

HoN though...hell I could barely play 3 games of that. I can see why most of the fanbase is so angry though, they paid $30 for that. I tried it free and all three games I went up against enemy teams of all smurf accounts. Who would just stomp us, taunt us and grief us.

Since unlike LoL, HoN actively encourages things like pool camping. There's nothing to stop it. And we had a leaver, so we couldn't surrender. The enemy team in two games refused to end it and just camped the pool.

...fuck that game.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Single player games can't really be ruined by their fanbase. No matter how annoying they are, it doesn't make the game any worse.

Multiplayer are a different story though.

>.>
I'd at this point like to bring Final Fantasy 7 up

yes I'm aware it was a lot of peoples 'first RPG' and the cultural significance there of
don't care,
its not the best FF, Sepharoth is FAR from the best villain, and Cloud was never 'cool'

what it IS, is a solid, well made RPG, that deserves SOME of the praise it gets (even if its hard to look at any more XD) with a decent story and characters

 

[agentorange98]

TO everyone who says fans don't ruin a game try actually going back and playing the original Portal and try to geniunely enjoy any of the humor that involves the companion cube or the whole cake thing, it's damn near impossible just because of how often those lines are parroted out but overzealous dickhead fans. I would also clarify those are the fans I mean, not just casual fans but the obsessive crazy fans, the dick head fans who just perpetuate the negative stereotypes of gaming.

 

[Raika]

Final Fantasy VI's fans have made the game seem extremely undesirable to me. I have yet to have Final Fantasy VI pitched to me in a way that isn't just a massive Final Fantasy VII bash.

"Oh, man, it's so much better than VII. You'll HATE VII after you play VI, it's so brilliant."

"It's not until you see how amazing and deep Kefka is that you realize just how awful Sephiroth is. Sephiroth sucks, man, and Kefka will show you why."

"Cloud is such a shitty character. Every character in Final Fantasy VII is shit, man, you'll see when you play VI what a Final Fantasy game should be."

I still have no idea what Final Fantasy VI is about, and I've gotten it pitched at me by hundreds of people. I get it. Everybody hates Final Fantasy VII because all popular things are shit. You're such an edgy, rebellious nonconformist.

Except you're not.

 

[idodo35]

well as was probably said a thosand times by now portal...
i mean i enjoy a good refrence like the next guy but the cake thing is WAY overused...

 

[Hugga_Bear]

It's been said a couple of times, CoD for me. I actually enjoy the game in parts, I like playing with my mates and online can be pretty good. Then you come to a lobby with a group of cheating little shits or lag switchers (yeah they still exist...) or just plain abusive fucks. Normally about 10 years old (or at least sounding like it) and unfortunately normally american too (I know, I've met some fucking awesome americans on CoD as well, just the dicks tend to be from the other side of the pond too...).

Annoying and it makes me want to just go play private. They also seem to take beef with me and my mates because we're quite good, if I play with my actual clan we win games all the time and that means we should be verbally abused, I give as good as I get but it's fucking boring after a while. I don't care enough to sit there having a pissing contest with a child.

Battlefield always has had it's share of douches, but it seems to do better than CoD in general. Makes a big difference for me. Teamplayers make me a happy chappy.

 

[JohnGD117]

COD and Halo.

 

[AdamRBi]

Many posts seem to be about Multiplayer games, and that makes sense in a lot of ways. Modern day console fanboys use their multiplayer games as ammo in arguments and it goes to show their fanisms for the game over the genre where they bash anyone who thinks, plays, or acts differently then they do can destroy all fun within a 20 mile radius.

But let's talk about something that effects me and is the fault of the designers making mistakes and looking for the fans for input. May be of no surprise that the series I speak of is Sonic.

I am still a Sonic fan though the edge I was so enamored by has changed, presumably focusing on a new breed of edgy kids, which is understandable as time marches on. Recently though, after a few years of weird story choices and flawed programming that you'd expect from a company that releases a new Sonic game every year, they've turned to the fans for input and that was the worst thing they could of done.

Fans are stupid; If you're a fan of a medium or of a genre you're a bit more savvy on the subject, but fans of single titles or series usually do not make for the best of people to turn to for fan advice; same for those who fall from outside the game's facilities. They just don't know what they're a fan of, so they have no way of acknowledging what made it good in the first place and can wholesomely screw things up if giving any bit of control over the subject matter. FPS games like CoD and Halo are mainly populated not by fans of the FPS genre but of only the game for various other reasons (gunplay, competition, visual flair) and thus tend to care less about the community and more about venting or relieving stress; or in some cases, an excuse to be a total douche. These are not universal truths, just observations.

Back to asking fans for design help, there is only a small fraction of them who actually know or have good taste in design, character, story, Et Cetera. So when you ask your fans how you should make your game it's pretty much the same as asking Joe the Plumber to design it.

Kids are even worse because unless they're a prodigy the best they can suggest is the impossible, the stupid, or the fan fiction territory. So when you break it down, only a small percentage of your fans can actually help a series grow; the other majority is ether fueled by an untrained perspective on what's good or fueled by solely Nostalgia wanting nothing but what they had as a kid not realizing that what they are wishing for will never happen simple because they've grown and wont have the same response to the game as they did as a child.

Things other Sonic fans have ruined for me was the ability to play other characters; something they have no problem with in Sonic 2, 3, & Knuckles but have had a problem with ever since SA2. Not to mention younger fans that are the reason designers of the games have forgotten who they're designing for and has made the stories of the games a complete mess; Hint: