Gameloft Breaks Out the Clone Machine for WoW-Like Order & Chaos
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Okay first thing that came to my mind when I read Order and Chaos was "Wait is this a shitty knock-off of War and Peace?" After reading the article I now think, wow if you want to take down WoW you should probably not be like WoW. Especially if your game isn't going to play well, because then it'll just make people think about how much they want to play WoW instead. :/
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Gameloft makes some really decent games, they just need their own ideas. They're solid developers, they just need to hire some creative talent.
Wait a minute. This seems strange coming from you, Mr. Goldman, seeing as you seemed pretty supportive of FortressCraft last month. I'd be curious to know what you think makes Gameloft near-plagiarizers but Projector Games simply expanding upon an idea.Tom Goldman said:
That looks pretty decent, actually.
I know Gameloft are anything but original, but they do make some very good iphone games that can give you more than five minutes of enjoyment at a time.
I know Gameloft are anything but original, but they do make some very good iphone games that can give you more than five minutes of enjoyment at a time.
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It didn't even look like they changed anything. At least other clones, try to change things. Different races. Different worlds. Different looks. Maybe some cool features to differentiate from the 500 pound gorilla. But that was just WoW. I bet it is set in Nazeroth.
And the blatant rip off of Uncharted. I was just wondering where Chloe and Elena were.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, but there have to be limits. Why not just try to license some of those titles?
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Sure Gameloft never brings out anything original... But, their work is always of the highest standard. It really is.
And for those claiming it has better graphics than WoW.... Well, lets just say you're both silly and don't know what you're talking about.
And for those claiming it has better graphics than WoW.... Well, lets just say you're both silly and don't know what you're talking about.
That`s just sad. I wanted to say something about etics and about how easy it would have been to make at least the trailers not look like the games their are cloning, but if they did that they would have missed their own point. So I`ll stick to sad.
I think they stole a few of the sound effects from WOW, such as the one that sounds like an Eagle.
Don't see any problem with it. It's not like Blizzard didn't do exactly the same with their products basing their games on Games Workshops Warhammer IP. In the end it's you, as end user benefiting from that. In case of Blizzard people got Warcraft/Starcraft to play, in case of this company people get to play games similar to those big names on their iPads/iPhones. It's a win-win.
Originality died hundreads of years ago anyway.
Originality died hundreads of years ago anyway.
I have mixed opinions, in some cases it does seem that they are blatently ripping off IPs, in other cases I think that the material is generic enough for there to be no major problem.
With "Uncharted" the whole thing is extremely derivitive to begin with, it's a good game series, but the "wisecracking treasure hunter" thing is hardly new material and has been fodder for games for a long period of time before "Uncharted" and "Tomb Raider" made it big. I don't think you can defend either of those IPs on any kind of creative grounds.
With "Order and Chaos" I think it's actually clever in a kind of warped way, given that Warcraft was based on Warhammer, the story I've heard being that originally Warcraft was developed to be sold to Games Workshop (as the RTS games), but was rejected in such a way that included tacit approval to develop the project in that style if they wanted to release it themselves or find another publisher. I thus find it kind of interesting to see Games Workshop getting comparitively clobbered with most of it's computer releases. Games Workshop itself was seriously inspired by the writings of this guy called "Michael Moorcock", whose entire "Champion Eternal" cycle (or rather his entire body of work, which is now linked through that) was the rather obvious inspiration (and acknowleged more than once I believe). The whole style of the way things things look was taken verbatim from his book, compare say how he describes Champions Of Chaos to those from Warhammer for example.
At any rate with Warhammer Online replacing Chaos with "destruction" I kind of find it amusing to see the biggest knock off being the ones who are naming the material most correctly after the root material.
I'll also say that this has been out there long enough, and Moorcock and his "style" has inspired so many things, that much like the treasure hunter thing above, I really can't bring myself to claim "foul" on that one too much. To do that with a straight face, you'd have to go after everyone who has been inspired by Michael Moorcock, and even if many argue his writing hasn't always aged well, the dude is one of the Grandmasters of fantasy for a reason, he's inspired so much stuff it's crazy.
With "Uncharted" the whole thing is extremely derivitive to begin with, it's a good game series, but the "wisecracking treasure hunter" thing is hardly new material and has been fodder for games for a long period of time before "Uncharted" and "Tomb Raider" made it big. I don't think you can defend either of those IPs on any kind of creative grounds.
With "Order and Chaos" I think it's actually clever in a kind of warped way, given that Warcraft was based on Warhammer, the story I've heard being that originally Warcraft was developed to be sold to Games Workshop (as the RTS games), but was rejected in such a way that included tacit approval to develop the project in that style if they wanted to release it themselves or find another publisher. I thus find it kind of interesting to see Games Workshop getting comparitively clobbered with most of it's computer releases. Games Workshop itself was seriously inspired by the writings of this guy called "Michael Moorcock", whose entire "Champion Eternal" cycle (or rather his entire body of work, which is now linked through that) was the rather obvious inspiration (and acknowleged more than once I believe). The whole style of the way things things look was taken verbatim from his book, compare say how he describes Champions Of Chaos to those from Warhammer for example.
At any rate with Warhammer Online replacing Chaos with "destruction" I kind of find it amusing to see the biggest knock off being the ones who are naming the material most correctly after the root material.
I'll also say that this has been out there long enough, and Moorcock and his "style" has inspired so many things, that much like the treasure hunter thing above, I really can't bring myself to claim "foul" on that one too much. To do that with a straight face, you'd have to go after everyone who has been inspired by Michael Moorcock, and even if many argue his writing hasn't always aged well, the dude is one of the Grandmasters of fantasy for a reason, he's inspired so much stuff it's crazy.