Gamers Demand Dark Souls PC Port

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Daystar Clarion said:
The more Sunbros the better.



Praise the Sun!
That picture just made my day. I thank you good sir/madame.

OT: I am a little torn on this, Yeah Dark Souls is a great game and all but I can't see it's control shceme on a PC work as well without a controller.

Still I would buy it again if it would get a PC port.
 

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I have no problems with porting stuff but...honestly, I would only ever play a "Souls" game on a PC with a gamepad. The game was built heavily around dual-analog sticks and mouse/keyboard would be incredibly cumbersome and hard to implement for this kind of game.

Of course, this is From Software were talking about, they will never port it to PC. Only game they ever ported to PC was the very first King's Field, and that PC release was sold primarily as a level creator software. Also it was only in Japan and it was long long time ago in the mid to late 90s.
 

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As I have stated before, if it has Mods, I won't buy it. If it doesn't, I will buy it again to play it on my laptop.
How does the game being moddable (when you download the game, it will certainly be vanilla) effect how you play the game vanilla? Just don't download any mods??? Mods are for people who want them, if you don't want any mods, you don't have to install any (and you always have to go out of your way to get them).

Also, I think the furthest extent for modding this game for the majority would be graphical mods or maybe a refining for mouse and keyboard control (if necessary). It's not exactly a big game so I doubt there will be anything going wrong. But the game looks great on vanilla. Any massively game changing mods would either be for (and this would definately be only doable offline) veteran players/people who are buying the game a 2nd time for the PC.

But I don't think anyone could complain about the game not being moddable personally (it can only be seen as a plus if it can though) due to the fact the way the game is designed doesn't really warrant any mods, compared to say an elder scrolls game, which could potentially warrant massive changes for people to want to keep playing the game in a different light.


EDIT: There's no difference between offline and online play? Do you need to be online to play the game? Oh well even then there are mods for console ports anyways, but they are minor tweaks at best (MW3's FOV mod comes to mind).
To elaborate, Dark Souls and it's predecessor do not require an online connection in any way to play the game. The online in Dark Souls is strictly for multiplayer content, which is integrated into the offline play mode.

Being online for Dark Souls means you get to summon other people to help with bosses (or be invaded by them), you get to partake in the Covenants system (there are a few with some Entry level rewards, but without players to help/kill, advancing through a covenant's ranks is nearly impossible), and you get to leave hints/read hints. Also blood stains.

That's it. It's entirely possible to play the game offline and just go from point A to point B killing monsters and eventually bosses. But why settle with playing half the game?
 

Skeleon

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Hell, yeah, all for it. I love punishing gameplay and I'm sure I would grind my way through a game like that. Only thing I disagree with the petition on is Steam. Hate it. I'd hope that there'd be a separat way to implement the game, at least optionally.

EverythingIncredible said:
I can tell you right now: Not going to happen. Nor should it.

Dark Souls is a console game, period. Playing it on PC would be like attempting to play Skyrim on consoles. It doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.
The Overlord games are clearly primarily console games and I bought both of 'em for the PC. Had great fun playing them, too. I really don't get your point, especially considering I can simply use a console-like gamecontroller.
 

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Well if the development team still exist (some companies lay these guys off after a job) then they might get on that. Assuming they didn't avoid the PC for a good reason, like wanting to avoid PC pirates. Of course there not under any obligation to give a crap about a whinny gamers on the internet and its there own decision as to how many people constitute a potential profit that is "worth it".
 

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A possible solution for DS with Keyboard(got it from Namco Bandai Forums):



Turbo_ski said:
Of course, this is From Software were talking about, they will never port it to PC. Only game they ever ported to PC was the very first King's Field, and that PC release was sold primarily as a level creator software. Also it was only in Japan and it was long long time ago in the mid to late 90s.
2009 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Blade
 

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kradx said:
A possible solution for DS with Keyboard(got it from Namco Bandai Forums):
What exactly is the point of that? One of the advantages of a PC is being able to freely set your keys, why did they produce some sort of proposal for possible key bindings? Plus, if I decide to use a controller, the keyboard and mouse setup don't matter too much, anyway; I can simply mimic the console setup. Are key bindings really a concern and possible reason to deny a port for developers? Because if that's the case, then it just confuses me as to why.
 

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Fuck Dark Souls. RED DEAD REDEMPTION. So much goddamn want for that. However, should we be victorious in a PC port of Dark Souls I will buy it just to bolster it's sales to hopefully give Rockstar an incentive to port this fabulous game! Who knows, I might even like Dark Souls.
 

RedDeadFred

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There are plenty of console and system exclusives and of all of them, Dark Souls is the one that gets a petition?
If this actually works I'm going to be making a couple dozen petitions....
Also, 30 thousand is nothing. That isn't nearly enough sales to warrant a PC port.
 

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EverythingIncredible said:
Playing it on PC would be like attempting to play Skyrim on consoles. It doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.
If by consoles you mean just PS3 then I suppose you're right but it's worked perfectly fine for me on my 360.
Sure we don't get mods but that's hardly saying it doesn't work.
 

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Skeleon said:
kradx said:
A possible solution for DS with Keyboard(got it from Namco Bandai Forums):
What exactly is the point of that? One of the advantages of a PC is being able to freely set your keys, why did they produce some sort of proposal for possible key bindings? Plus, if I decide to use a controller, the keyboard and mouse setup don't matter too much, anyway; I can simply mimic the console setup. Are key bindings really a concern and possible reason to deny a port for developers? Because if that's the case, then it just confuses me as to why.
No need to tell me what I already know. The image was only to show one possible key binding solution and was intended for the posters that are saying that Dark Souls would never work with K&M. Although I'm sure it will be ignored by almost everyone.
 

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EverythingIncredible said:
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EverythingIncredible said:
Playing it on PC would be like attempting to play Skyrim on consoles. It doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.
If by consoles you mean just PS3 then I suppose you're right but it's worked perfectly fine for me on my 360.
Sure we don't get mods but that's hardly saying it doesn't work.
Playing them back to back, the console versions suck HARD compared to the PC version. It's is almost comical.
I'm assuming you're just a pc elitist who's trolling and hasn't actually played them back to back at this point... otherwise you'd notice that there really isn't that much of a difference. The main thing I notice is draw distance and a bit better graphics in general but but it really isn't very much.
In fact, if you go by overall scores (which I don't because in my opinion, it's the same game across all systems) the 360 version is the best. http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/skyrim/results
 

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I would very much love this port.
My 360 broke so I never had a chance to finish it ):
From what I played, I couldn't put it down.
 

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EverythingIncredible said:
Wakikifudge said:
EverythingIncredible said:
Wakikifudge said:
EverythingIncredible said:
Playing it on PC would be like attempting to play Skyrim on consoles. It doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.
If by consoles you mean just PS3 then I suppose you're right but it's worked perfectly fine for me on my 360.
Sure we don't get mods but that's hardly saying it doesn't work.
Playing them back to back, the console versions suck HARD compared to the PC version. It's is almost comical.
I'm assuming you're just a pc elitist who's trolling and hasn't actually played them back to back at this point... otherwise you'd notice that there really isn't that much of a difference. The main thing I notice is draw distance and a bit better graphics in general but but it really isn't very much.
In fact, if you go by overall scores (which I don't because in my opinion, it's the same game across all systems) the 360 version is the best. http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/skyrim/results
There's more to a game than just the software going into the disc.

It's the over all playstyle, how it suits the way the platform runs and how it all comes together on its chosen platform.

This is particularly why it is a better PC game than a console game. Take out the superior graphics and even the mods, and you still have a better experience on PC.

That's because The Elder Scrolls is, at its heart, a PC experience. It's one meant to be played at your desk. This is something I noted when I got Skyrim on consoles and I hated it. I thought that TES just wasn't for me at first. But when I got it for PC, it's noticeably more enjoyable. To a point where I suddenly went from someone who was indifferent to a fan.

This is also precisely the reason why I think that Dark Souls wouldn't work on PC. Same thing, only the other way around. Dark Souls is an experience meant to be played on the couch. Not at your desk.
Ok. You've changed your tone to something that is much more reasonable. Thanks for that.
What you are basically saying is that YOUR PREFERENCE is that Skyrim plays better on the PC for comfort reasons?
Honestly, the hotkeys would be nice but the favorites menu pretty much solves that IMO. I prefer playing games with a controller on the couch because it is more comfortable for me.
 

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Have some pride PC Gamers. I remember back in the day when you could proudly look down your noses towards console games because you were above us. Now, you are begging for the same treatment that the consoles get.
 

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malestrithe said:
Have some pride PC Gamers. I remember back in the day when you could proudly look down your noses towards console games because you were above us. Now, you are begging for the same treatment that the consoles get.
Oh we still do...

But even the superior race can sometime see the occasional gem among vast array of terrible games for dirty console peasants. I kid.. I kid... x)
 

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LordOfInsanity said:
And how would you keep a permanently online game fair and balanced? A game like Dark Souls, where people can join another's game easily to either help or attack one another, is impractical with mods in and of itself.

You could have modder A have both the Sword of Infinity + 1 and Armor of Invulnerability thanks to modding, who joins into non-modder games and continuously attacks and kills the player. How will you keep Modders and Non-Modders separate, so Modders don't grief and ruin the experience from non-modders?
^ This. Seriously.

The problem with the online portion of Dark Souls is that when you're online, there is no way to prevent an invasion. There are no separate rooms or password-ed games to separate modders from non-modders. You can't prevent any hacker or cheater from joining your game. If you're online, you're online; exposed & vulnerable.

The console versions already suffer from glitchers & griefers; do we really want modders with "Sword of Infinity +1" and "Armor of Invulnerability" to join in & ruin everyone's fun? This game will die in a heartbeat.

Oh sure, play offline. But if you do, you're missing out a huge portion of the game, especially the coop. Want to do coop? Need help with a boss? Gotta connect online & risk invasion; there is no other way.

Oh sure, maybe the devs can fix it or something... but I think they moved onto next project, so if they just port it as is, then it'll be a disaster waiting to happen.

As much as I'd love to see this game on PC, I agree that it may not be a good idea.
 

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kradx said:
No need to tell me what I already know. The image was only to show one possible key binding solution and was intended for the posters that are saying that Dark Souls would never work with K&M. Although I'm sure it will be ignored by almost everyone.
Ah, I see. I mean, I'd probably use a controller myself, but I'm still confused why anybody would think a game like Dark Souls wouldn't work with keyboard and mouse, either. Hell, they should play a 'MechWarrior game some time to see complex key bindings.