Gamers Find "Leviathan" DLC Inside Mass Effect 3's New Ending

[Therumancer]

My thoughts are pretty much "so what?"

With that craptastic ending (elaborated on or not), why do I care what other adventures might have happened beforehand, knowing nothing I do matters and everything is going to go to pot? Sure I get a new renegade Reaper buddy, but I already know it doesn't matter because Bioware told me so. Shares information on the backround of the Reapers? All that can do is make the ending worse, especially seeing as again, none of it is going to matter. Not to mention that with what they established in the ending this entire DLC plan doesn't make much sense anyway.

The bottom line is that like with Dragon Age 2, EA/Bioware is not getting any more of my money. You screw up your game like this, why should I pay more money into it?

Oh and for the record, if anyone at EA/Bioware has anyone looking at this, and thinking fans just QQ and buy everything anyway... I'm "Therumancer" on Bioware social as well. Check out how much DA2 content I've bought... and oh, that's the previous game that "sold well" but slotted people off on the delivery, and I believe it was so lackluster in support afterwards that the last piece of planned DLC got canned (or so I read here on The Escapist). I seriously hope you've spent millions and millions of dollars making the next ME3 DLC an epic performance, so when it underperforms due to not including an appropriate ME3 ending you take a bath.

 

[Gennadios]

Excellent. Another useless batch of EMS points for when I shoot the s***caked hologram in the face.

If I ever get around to a second playthrough. Or paying any more for BioWare products.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

As a mostly uncomplicated Bioware fan freshly wooed and indoctrinated by the properly handled endings... SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

Seriously though, I'm unironically jacked about this. I loved the Leviathan of Dis subplot in Mass Effect and when it was mentioned in 3 by the infamous asshole turned humbled leader of a homeless species Balak... it was pretty damn cool that they would remember such a little detail. Same with the investigation of the Klendegan Rift revealing the Derelict Reaper in 2. Plus, I'm a total tool of a Biodrone and I'll lap up any bullshit they release no matter how insipid.

They had almost lost me there with the end of 3 back in March, but I'm back now.

 

[Daget Sparrow]

NO. BAD BIOWARE. DON'T TELL ME WHO MADE THE REAPERS. Keep the Reaper's origin a mystery, it makes for a WAY more interesting story.

 

[lapan]

Game producer Mike Gamble hinted on his Twitter account [https://twitter.com/#!/gamblemike] that more content was in store, tweeting, "Would now be a good time to talk about how we're doing more DLC in the future?" He later added, "That was a trick question. We'll save the future DLC for future chats. Don't worry though ... there's much more." The fans, impatient creatures that they are, evidently decided to bypass those "future chats" and cut to the chase, digging up some juicy details on the planned DLC. Naturally, beware of Mass Effect plot spoilers below.

Oh really? As if we wouldn't have known after the screen after the ending already announced DLC ages ago...

The script includes new lines for each of Shepard's companions that help shine some light on the details of the mission. One line, which appears to be delivered by EDI, implies that the mission may reveal new information about the Reapers' creators, a topic mostly untouched in the series so far: "So the Reapers did not fully exterminate their creators. That suggests they are fallible, even on large or long-term scales."

And yet we have to trust the asspull starchild or die.

 

[Innegativeion]

NO. BAD BIOWARE. DON'T TELL ME WHO MADE THE REAPERS. Keep the Reaper's origin a mystery, it makes for a WAY more interesting story.

Well, the Extended cut already tells us who made them, just not anything about them other than

Spoiler

"They were an organic race, they existed, one can assume they probably looked like hand-shaped crabs given the reapers, and probably had a HUGE industry running with giant mechanical space-thumb wrestling, until the starchild (who still shouldn't exist) decided to use the giant mechanical thumb wrestlers in question to kill er'body

....duh urp"

I'm 76% sure that spoiler'd quote is verbatim, though I could be forgetting some details.

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

Problem with ME3 DLC is that it won't have the weight of the previous ones. The main draw to buying ME2 DLC (to me, at least) is that it seemed significant to the story, so it was necessary for the sake of the conclusion to the series.

But now that draw's gone...you know how it ends, this is just extra gameplay. Which is nice and all, but in all likelihood, it'll just amount to getting +200 points or something of the sort, which is probably irrelevant since you can get all the endings without it.

That said, they do have a golden opportunity with Mass Effect 3. At the ending, they can have hugely varying effects from their DLC. Perhaps add new endings ontop of the existing ones. Hell, so long as the main three factors are consistent (Shepard Dies, Relays Destroyed, Reapers Gone) they have a lot of room to build new outcomes. Not as much as they claimed before release, but the chance is still there. It could turn into a big branching finale over time, if they stick to expanding on it alongside the pre-ending content.

At the very least, extending the end-game portions to reflect the outcome of the DLC would be nice, even if not particularly rewarding.

But that probably won't happen. It'll most likely be an addon that doesn't impact the finale in any meaningful way.

However, if Leviathan ends up taking out Harbinger before it hits, I will tip my hat to Bioware for an encouraging comeback.

 

[dementis]

The only DLC I'm interested in that will make up for the ending is one that let's you play as Garrus during the gap between Shepard's death and meeting him again on Omega.

 

[PingoBlack]

Oh, Reapers have free will now?

Hahahahaha, this BioWare storytelling is sure getting better and more consistent since they sent Drew to write the great success known as SW:ToR.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Maybe when they're done with all the DLC, we'll have enough resources to tell that stupid little shithead to shut the fuck up and still get ourselves a happy ending like the one in Mass Effect 1 and 2.

 

[AbstractStream]

Commander Shepard's adventures aren't over just yet.

No, his battles are over, now I can choose to go back and relive more moments before his agonizing decision at the end. No thank you, I've already played through Mass Effect 3, shoving more crap into its bloated corpse doesn't interest me. I'll only buy DLC that takes place after the war or is in someway completely separate from it. I've fought this war, I know what happens and I've ended it, why would I care about more assets? Why the hell would I want to back into the middle of it? If this DLC seriously does change the ending yet again, I'LL catch it on YouTube.

The only DLC I'm interested in that will make up for the ending is one that let's you play as Garrus during the gap between Shepard's death and meeting him again on Omega.

Well said you two.
I said my goodbyes to Shepard already

 

[zombiesinc]

Just gimme more Shepard and I'm happy. Really, that's all I need.

 

[Th37thTrump3t]

By get in the final battle I assume that just means he's added to our war score. Other wise their going back to fiddle with the ending of Mass Effect 3, after their pissing match with the internet over artistic integrity.

Also if a Reaper can go rogue than what is the importance of the star child? Didn't he control the Reapers and by extension make them do his bidding? Does that mean that the control option ending is bullshit if the Reapers can go rogue and ignore Shephards commands?

Does no one at Bioware look at the shit that they write?

There will always be one defective unit out of the bunch. Maybe he powered off before the OS could shut down correctly and the driver that controlled the "Obey master" chip became corrupted. (Windows joke ^^)

 

[Josh123914]

Hmm, seems interesting, but unless this ''Leviathan'' impacts the ending (as in, we see it ''swallow'' a destroyer or two) I don't see it selling well, I mean aside from malKing everything but Refuse even LESS appealing:
For Destroy, you are now killing other Reapers that may have their own agenda, as well as Leviathan, YOUR ALLY.
For Control, now Reapers could defect and refuse Shepard's leadership,
And For Synthesis, now some Reapers could just turn on everybody because, well, free will and whatnot.....
: Any War assets to be made from this DLC could be made from playing 2 hours of Multiplayer or simply not sucking at single-player (in my first playthrough I had 3200 war assets, and now with the EC you only need 3100 for the best everything).

 

[Riff Moonraker]

On one hand, this sounds really cool.

On the other hand, who cares if we get him in the final battle? It's not going to change the endings.

Or.... what if it did? What if it was planned to put another ending in the game all along? Far fetched, yes... but its not an unreasonable line of thought, either.

Not unreasonable, but I doubt it will happen.

Probably not... but speculation is the spice of life!!!

 

[SweetLiquidSnake]

Seeing how I have 3 characters all saved right before the collector base I really hope that this mission or whatever added in allows me to access it from that late in the story, since I really don't want to start a new save.

Or better yet just release it without achievements so my 52/52 doesnt get affected.

EDIT: And to all those wanting post-story DLC like Omega and shit, it's obviously not going to happen! Do people forget that once you beat the game it just reloads your save to before the final battle? This ain't like ME2 where after the suicide mission you just chill on the Normandy.

 

[everythingbeeps]

Yep, I'd say my interest in ME3 DLC is minimal.

I wanted post-game DLC. Not crap that takes place earlier and ultimately has no impact on how things end.

As others have said, unless it fixes the ending, it's not that interesting to me. I'm done being the guy that defends the writers' "artistic integrity". I've swung to the other end of the spectrum. Those writers can stick their "artistic integrity" in their fucking ear.

 

[Britisheagle]

Wow that sounds awesome. Will hopefully also help Bioware to rebuild their reputation for fantastic storylines after the less than appealing original ending trilogy.

Here's hoping!

 

[survivor686]

Interesting...most interesting. Hopefully it will have some more Ash dialogue, she was neglected too much in ME3.

 

[Frankster]

There is quite a few people i've seen in various me3 threads arguing that the reapers were an unstoppable force and it is simply "not" possible to beat them conventionally.

That stance looked increasingly flingy as the games went by and reapers became more and more faillible and our impression of their invincibility came from our ignorance (we initially assumed reapers wiped out everything relatively quickly, then found out later that they needed centuries to wipe out the protheans, and even took casualties).

Now the current galactic cycle not only foils the main reaper plan (surprise attack via citadel), has access to reaper tech and weaponry (those thanix weapons are a big deal despite upgrading an entire fleet with them only resulting in like 5 measly ems points) and now will have potential access and recruitement of an actual reaper? One who can completely reveal away all the mysteries and secrets of their previously invincible foes? Unless they pull off a jareik "im a soldier so dunno anything that can really help" explanation then this is quite a big deal.

The refusal ending is looking like such BS now. Screw the crucible, and screw earth. Prepare for a long centuries war with the reapers, the current galactic cycle of the me universe now has all it needs to fight a prolonged war vs the reapers.

So yeh cool idea for a DLC, but feels cheap considering it likely won't have any impact on the endings despite my feelings above.