Gamers Rage About Bayonetta 2 on Wii U

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WouldYouKindly

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Kmadden2004 said:
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Motion controls don't really translate well to a fighting game like Bayonetta.
Which is why it'll be using the gamepad controller.
The giant touchscreen one? Still makes for a little difficult transition.

If you're talking about the classic controller, fine, but I still say that is the least comfortable controller to use in this generation.
 

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team platinum: "yeah we really want to make a new Bayonetta!"
Sega: "yeah.... not with our money. i'm sorry, but the game was a not the financial success we wanted it to be."
TP: "but, but.... but people like it so much, people really want a sequel."
Sega: "then they should have paid more money!"
Nintendo: "hey TP, we think it has potential, we want to publish it, but it has to be exclusive on our upcoming console."
TP: "fine, we just want to make a great sequel to a good game."


and this was what probably happened. sure, it sucks that i can't play it on my xbox 360, but at least we are getting a sequel.
 

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Dexter111 said:
Azuaron said:
Bayonetta 2 would not have been made otherwise (see my above simple math).
I'm not seeing the difference, obviously there won't be that many people getting the console so it might as well not have been, it makes no difference for them, mostly just eliminates all hope they might've had and keeps developers from doing something else. It's likely that it'll also be designed with that Touchpad...thing in mind xD

The new audience is the polar opposite of the old audience, of course they'd be pissed.

Mr.Mattress said:
Yeah, this isn't the first time of this situation happening, but it is something special still. I can understand why people would like Bayonetta 2 on other Consoles, but they'll all (Or most of them will) get over it and eventually buy a WiiU, not just for B2, but for everything else the WiiU Will get (Or they'll just watch the Let's Plays).
By the point this is about to come out the new Xbawks and PlayStation (and respective games on the platforms) are going to be announced and everyone will have forgotten about it/gotten over it, so I don't really see that coming.

I'm rather sure the Wii U will fail in a big and spectacular way.
I laughed at all the conjecture and misinformation ur post has bro. The wiiU isn't obviously gonna fail, that is just your biases talking. I think it has a pretty good chance of making it. I believe Nintendo is playing it smarter than we all think. If Microsoft and Sony announce their newest consoles next year, everyone knows it will be at least 2 years before we get it, and that is enough time for Nintendo to become dominant in the console market if they keep picking up such great games.

Edit: I realize my post has a lot of conjecture too, but it is too early to write the system off since: A: It hasn't even come out yet B: It is coming out in November can you imagine the sales from Black Friday and Christmas this console is gonna get since it is new and is trying something other consoles are not doing (except microsoft's blatantly smartglass copy). Yes you can say it is a gimmick, but gimmick's can sometimes help revolutionize the industry.
 

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Nope, facebook, twitter, youtube, 4chan, and reddit comments are still not news.
 

Mr.Mattress

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Dexter111 said:
By the point this is about to come out the new Xbawks and PlayStation (and respective games on the platforms) are going to be announced and everyone will have forgotten about it/gotten over it, so I don't really see that coming.

I'm rather sure the Wii U will fail in a big and spectacular way.
Or, they could be raging about how both Consoles supposedly will restrict people buying Used Games (As in the Consoles won't let you play used games), or how it's the same as last generation with more pixels, or how the games are the same shoot-em ups over again, or how the launch line up sucks, or how they've copied Nintendo Too Much, or a veriaty of other things that people will complain about.

I will agree that it would make some people forget about the WiiU, but I am positive that the WiiU will sell well. It won't fail in a big and spectacular way, though it won't succeed like the Wii. It will Sell good, like the PS1 or PS2.
 

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Great thing about having all current gen consoles (and eventually WiiU), exclusives are never a problem. If I have money to spare, I may get this.
Also some of those tweets Dexter pasted in the thread are hilariously dumb.
 

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Doom972 said:
Having a game on a console you'll never buy is almost as bad as not having it at all. Nintendo probably deprived most of the original game's fans, since most gamers get only one console.
then they aren't real gamers, they are causals.
 

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Wasn't Bayonetta ported really crummily to the PS3? Essentially, the only "good" system to play it on was the 360, so it was basically a console exclusive in a way. And we don't know, maybe the game takes advantage of the WiiU specs and can't be ported to the other consoles without serious downgrades.

Now the argument becomes "I'm so mad that a game I want and haven't played is coming out on system I don't want and haven't played, instead of a system I do want and haven't played."
 

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Dexter111 said:
I'm not seeing the difference, obviously there won't be that many people getting the console so it might as well not have been, it makes no difference for them, mostly just eliminates all hope they might've had and keeps developers from doing something else. It's likely that it'll also be designed with that Touchpad...thing in mind xD
Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean everyone is.
If you were under a stone for the last few days, it's OK. The internet went full retard after Nintendo Direct. Even the god damn Pachter, the person who didn't have even one nice thing to say about Nintendo in the last few years said that the WiiU will sell like hot chocolate in the Alps. He predicts that the WiiU will be constantly sold out until the next April if the hype keeps up.

I'm not saying Pachter's predictions are right, but a man who openly admits not liking Nintendo changes his opinion so drastically and predicts a huge success means something. Even /v/ the only video game board that is know for hating video games (and everything else) is totally hyped for the WiiU.

I'm not saying that it will sell great. But the chances of the WiiU selling great are much bigger than the chances of selling bad.

To people to think that Sega will publish it on other consoles:
Sega has no saying about the game. And Sega doesn't own the IP. The own the first game, but the IP is PG property. PG (afaik) has never self published a game.
 

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Dexter111 said:
We will see, I did a larger Thread/Post on that here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.377960-Will-the-Wii-U-fail-horribly

The thing is, Nintendo had abnormal success with the NES, SNES and Wii (at least at the start of the life-period), but the N64 and GameCube were a relative failure, I'd rather think the "Wii U" will follow in its footsteps than the Wii.

I don't see them convincing the casual people to buy a $300+ console, especially since most won't even realize it will be a new one given the name.
Now, I'm gonna have to stop you there, the N64 was not a failure. Yes, the Cartridges scared many developers who were loyal to Nintendo off to Sony, but the N64 was not a failure. It had some of the best games of all time on there, it had some of the most powerful graphics at the time, it had no load time, and it was all around fun. If anything, it was the XBox of its generation.

Also, I think the WiiU will fallow the Footsteps of the PS1 or PS2, a good system that sells well, but not Wii like.
 

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Dexter111 said:
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT! A MONSTER HUNTER GAME FOR CONSOLES NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JAPAN!?
Sorry got a bit excited there, but now i know i need to buy a wii u.
 

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Gamer over here.
Not mad at all.

Don't call fanatic spazoids gamers.
Yeah you can be both but only one causes you to twitch about a game actually coming out instead of being left for dead in the publisher wasteland.
 

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WouldYouKindly said:
Kmadden2004 said:
WouldYouKindly said:
Motion controls don't really translate well to a fighting game like Bayonetta.
Which is why it'll be using the gamepad controller.
The giant touchscreen one? Still makes for a little difficult transition.

If you're talking about the classic controller, fine, but I still say that is the least comfortable controller to use in this generation.
Uh, it still has ALL the buttons a normal controller does but has the addition of the touchscreen. That wouldn't be difficult to translate to at all.
 

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I'm not too happy about the exclusive, but why the fuck are gamers threatening to kill their selves because of console exclusives. Just buy the game and the console it's exclusive to instead of killing yourself if it's THAT important? I never wanted to say this, but I'm losing faith in humanity.
 

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blackdwarf said:
team platinum: "yeah we really want to make a new Bayonetta!"
Sega: "yeah.... not with our money. i'm sorry, but the game was a not the financial success we wanted it to be."
TP: "but, but.... but people like it so much, people really want a sequel."
Sega: "then they should have paid more money!"
Nintendo: "hey TP, we really need something to appeal to the hardcore crowd that is not two years old and even exclusive so let us throw some of this fine DS and Wii money at you ."
TP: "fine, we just want to make a great sequel to a good game."


and this was what probably happened. sure, it sucks that i can't play it on my xbox 360, but at least we are getting a sequel.
Fixed that for you
 

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Dexter111 said:
I also don't see them really getting that many people with their Launch titles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games
Theoretically they might have "50", but seeing as about 80% of those are old titles that were already released on all the other consoles and/or PC, let's see what we are left with:

Which are going to be Exclusive Wii U "Launch Titles"?
New Super Mario Bros. U, Nintendo Land (doesn't quite have the ring or the appeal of "Wii Sports" or "Wii Fit" to it, does it?), Rayman Legends, Tank! Tank! Tank!, ZombiU
Xbox 360
U.S. launch: November 22, 2005
Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins
FIFA 06: Road to FIFA World Cup
GUN
Kameo: Elements of Power
Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
NHL 2K6
Perfect Dark Zero
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Ridge Racer 6
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

PlayStation 3
U.S. launch: November 17, 2006
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Call of Duty 3
Genji: Days of the Blade
Madden NFL 07
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 2K7
NHL 2K7
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom

look at these awesome launch lineups yet somehow they managed to make it
 

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BiH-Kira said:
Doom972 said:
I'm not seeing the difference, obviously there won't be that many people getting the console so it might as well not have been, it makes no difference for them, mostly just eliminates all hope they might've had and keeps developers from doing something else. It's likely that it'll also be designed with that Touchpad...thing in mind xD
Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean everyone is.
If you were under a stone for the last few days, it's OK. The internet went full retard after Nintendo Direct. Even the god damn Pachter, the person who didn't have even one nice thing to say about Nintendo in the last few years said that the WiiU will sell like hot chocolate in the Alps. He predicts that the WiiU will be constantly sold out until the next April if the hype keeps up.

I'm not saying Pachter's predictions are right, but a man who openly admits not liking Nintendo changes his opinion so drastically and predicts a huge success means something. Even /v/ the only video game board that is know for hating video games (and everything else) is totally hyped for the WiiU.

I'm not saying that it will sell great. But the chances of the WiiU selling great are much bigger than the chances of selling bad.

To people to think that Sega will publish it on other consoles:
Sega has no saying about the game. And Sega doesn't own the IP. The own the first game, but the IP is PG property. PG (afaik) has never self published a game.
Why is my name there? I didn't write that.
 

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Limpnoodle said:
Doom972 said:
Having a game on a console you'll never buy is almost as bad as not having it at all. Nintendo probably deprived most of the original game's fans, since most gamers get only one console.
then they aren't real gamers, they are causals.
No, just not that rich. The PC satisfies my gaming needs fine, and while some console games seem appealing to me, I'd rather keep that money for other purposes.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
though it won't succeed like the Wii. It will Sell good, like the PS1 or PS2.
The PS1 and PS2 were FAR more successful than the Wii :p The PS2 is the best selling console of all time.

And this 'news' is proof, if it were needed, that consoles have just as many elitist pricks in their ranks as the PC does. Just don't buy the game if you're so angry. If you're so determined not to get a Wii U then this announcement makes no difference to you.
 

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Doom972 said:
Why is my name there? I didn't write that.
Probably when I deleted parts of the post I was quoting. I hate how quoting works on the escapist. Damn hard to take a part of 1 post if there are several posts. Or maybe I quoted you accidentally and while I was editing the post I wanted to quote, I made a mistake.

Sorry. :)

EDIT:
There, I fixed it.