Gamers Ship 400 Cupcakes to BioWare in Protest of Mass Effect 3
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I haven't seen one person being threatening or aggressive over this I wouldn't say its obsessive possessive behavior.Draech said:
A lot of people just seem to want to make the fans out as bad guys when all they are doing is giving their feedback about something that they disliked. They are giving Bioware their opinion. The fact that there are so many people who are complaining makes it look like browbeating.
If anything it's the people who are complaining about the fans that are being insulting and nasty. How did they 'drag a charity through the muck' exactly? They did no such thing. They stated what the intent of the movement was if people misunderstand that it's not exactly their fault.
Comparing it to Misery is certainly going too far.
If people didn't care or like Mass Effect there is no way they would put this much effort into getting the ending clarified.
People make jokes all the time, I said in the Critical Miss thread that Skyrim saves were more important than saving your gf from having an xbox thrown in her face. I didn't mean it literally.Draech said:
This whole thing has been turned into a mire by people misconstruing the fans actions and when they do something fun like with the cupcakes people say it's stupid and they should give it to charity, an act they have already been vilified for.
They didn't attached Child's Play to get credibility they did it to channel their disappointment into something good. How can you be so cynical?
This is great. If only people raged more like this, the atmosphere would be so much more friendly.
Also this makes us look like more than angry screaming fanboys.
Also this makes us look like more than angry screaming fanboys.
Please explain to me, haters, why lobbying for a game to change labels you as pathetic and entitled? I've never once felt like Bioware owed me anything, but I defiantly am not happy with the blatant lie about what we could expect from the ending of the game. My question is, why are we labeled children and irresponsible and loud just because we're dissatisfied with something?
When Fallout 3 ended, tons of people flipped their lids in just this same way, the ending was enhanced through DLC, and the problem was solved. Fans were happy, and Bethesda was happy because they got to make additional high-quality content and rightfully charge for it.
In summary, I believe Bioware owes us an answer more than "Its what we wanted to do." I think the ending should be optionally expanded through DLC, I also don't require this expanded ending to by rainbows and sunshine, I don't even care if Shepherd dies. I just want an ending that's consistent with the rest of the games. And guess what, I think we should actually -pay- for the expansion, because -gasp- its the right thing to do in exchange for content. People seem to forget consumers have a right to disparage products they buy and are dissatisfied with, it encourages competition and innovation. Or, alternatively, you could take the stance that we should just swallow what we're spoon fed and accept every little drop in quality as inevitable. In my opinion, its the second stance that does more harm to "artist integrity" and game's industry than the first.
Finally, anyone getting upset about the Child's Play thing? You're really the most cynical and intellectually dishonest people here. Find something worthwhile to complain about, okay?
When Fallout 3 ended, tons of people flipped their lids in just this same way, the ending was enhanced through DLC, and the problem was solved. Fans were happy, and Bethesda was happy because they got to make additional high-quality content and rightfully charge for it.
In summary, I believe Bioware owes us an answer more than "Its what we wanted to do." I think the ending should be optionally expanded through DLC, I also don't require this expanded ending to by rainbows and sunshine, I don't even care if Shepherd dies. I just want an ending that's consistent with the rest of the games. And guess what, I think we should actually -pay- for the expansion, because -gasp- its the right thing to do in exchange for content. People seem to forget consumers have a right to disparage products they buy and are dissatisfied with, it encourages competition and innovation. Or, alternatively, you could take the stance that we should just swallow what we're spoon fed and accept every little drop in quality as inevitable. In my opinion, its the second stance that does more harm to "artist integrity" and game's industry than the first.
Finally, anyone getting upset about the Child's Play thing? You're really the most cynical and intellectually dishonest people here. Find something worthwhile to complain about, okay?
I wish it was true, but of all the parts of a game to focus on, the ending should be a priority. This is especially true in a series that's been touting that 'every choice you make matters' since the very beginning. They're not being 'whiny children' by voicing outrage, they have a legitimate grievance that, admittedly, not everyone has been expressing in a mature manner. Be that as it may, it's equally damning to judge a whole group by the actions of a few vocal members.Audacity said:
If you like the ending, great, but don't judge people who are expressing criticism by the few asshats who shout the loudest. Honestly, the fact that there are so many people who are making a big deal of this is a testament to the great writing of Bioware in general.
That's so offensive and childish! My cat suffers from Diabetes and looks just like Wilford Brimley! You make all cat owners look bad and childish and entitled to their own opinions! I HOPE YOU DIE!FelixG said:my dear timelord, how wrong you are.
This is really an underhanded and evil plot to make sure all the bioware employees get...
/sarcasm/
Funny post man. Sorry couldn't resist imitating some of the ignorance in here.
I haven't seen anyone do those things and if they have they are certainly in a tiny minority. You are just determined to make the fans out as the bad guys when, they in fact, have a legitimate criticism of the game.Draech said:
Yeah I'm sure the $80,000 they raised for sick children made the world a terrible place! People complained about the ending to Fallout 3, they changed it, and the world didn't end.Draech said:
I didn't partake in the Retake Mass Effect 3 movement either but I'm not going to make them out as villains when all they have done is tried to be constructive and positive.
I would be more supportive of this 'defend artistic integrity!' point of view if the ending actually had any effort put into it. It feels like people arguing over whether to paint over some crappy graffiti in a park...
Yes because if there's anything that makes this world a worse place its people expressing their opinions of dissatisfaction. Not murder, war, poverty, disease, or bigotry, but people being dissatisfied with a product. We should all take it sitting down and lap up every little drop in expectation or quality happily. What exactly makes you so loyal to the developer's "artistic integrity"? I really don't get people like you, mate. You're making yourself look very ignorant.Draech said:
Yeah, that bugged me too. Who can't do math over there? Or maybe Mike is just rounding again.EvilChameleon said:
You vastly underestimate the power of cupcakes. I imagine they'll be gone entirely within two days.Evil Alpaca said:
Have you raised $80.000 for charity at any point?Draech said:
I don't think name calling is warranted either. The retake guys have been civil throughout all of this and have even been very supportive of Jessica Merizen the Bioware community manager.