Arqus_Zed said:Final Fantasy VIII
Just... Final Fantasy VIII. All of it.
Though, I suppose there has been some discussion whether or not many of the things considered plot holes are actually just examples of "bad writing" and "simply not explained".
Memory loss by using GFs?
Cid being married to Edea and them running an orphanage of which all orphans end up being sEED members?
Why did Cid never tell the truth about the whole thing?
Do all monsters come from the moon?
The Shumi turn into Moombas if they fail their trails?
If the second Sorceress War didn't end until Laguna contained Adel, how could Deling have become president and fought against Esthar in the war?
What's with the whole "laguna sequences in the past"-thing?
You get your weapons taken away from you in prison, yet there's a prisoner who has set up shop there?
How do you become a sorceress?
Did Ultimecia create a temporal causality loop by transferring her powers to the past?
Time compression?
GFs memory loss I've got nothing, I guess it could be considered a "sacrifice" for them lending people their power, like a pact of some description, sort of based off stuff they say in game. But yeah the idea of them all growing up together was a bit shit, especially given Irvine knew.
You give Edea the idea of the SEEDs in order to keep time intact, the whole story is a massive loop, then Cid had the money, him and Edea hook up and set it all up. I'm guessing Cid didn't know that it was Squall that gave Edea the idea, so while he may have been involved setting it up, he may not of known the whole truth, or he didn't specifically want to tell Squall just encourage him. Edea presumably didn't tell him in case it had an effect on the timeline and because generally bad things happen to people that know their own future. Timy wimy wibbly wobbly
I believe all monsters do come from the moon, then they breed.
Shumi are a different race, can't really explain it, but I guess that's just what happens to em.
Ellones powers seem to stem from Adele, given she was supposed to be the successor, as I don't think she had her powers /before/ she was captured, so she's a sort of demi-sorceress.
They don't really explain how Sorceresses came into being, but the best explanations in game would be that humans used to have magic innately (they don't in game, as it's done through technology of some description and through GFs, a conduit if you will), which was given to them by a being called Hyne, who also created humans. it's stated in game that it gets weaker with each successor, so presumably it was stronger in some bloodlines and stayed around after it eventually was thinned out among humanity.
Yup, she did create a loop, though I suspect it was unintended and she just followed Squall as he was the slowest of the group to get back.
No idea what her ultimate goal was of time compression, though she needed Ellone to complete her power set, so the power displayed in game isn't what she actually wanted.
You give Edea the idea of the SEEDs in order to keep time intact, the whole story is a massive loop, then Cid had the money, him and Edea hook up and set it all up. I'm guessing Cid didn't know that it was Squall that gave Edea the idea, so while he may have been involved setting it up, he may not of known the whole truth, or he didn't specifically want to tell Squall just encourage him. Edea presumably didn't tell him in case it had an effect on the timeline and because generally bad things happen to people that know their own future. Timy wimy wibbly wobbly
I believe all monsters do come from the moon, then they breed.
Shumi are a different race, can't really explain it, but I guess that's just what happens to em.
Ellones powers seem to stem from Adele, given she was supposed to be the successor, as I don't think she had her powers /before/ she was captured, so she's a sort of demi-sorceress.
They don't really explain how Sorceresses came into being, but the best explanations in game would be that humans used to have magic innately (they don't in game, as it's done through technology of some description and through GFs, a conduit if you will), which was given to them by a being called Hyne, who also created humans. it's stated in game that it gets weaker with each successor, so presumably it was stronger in some bloodlines and stayed around after it eventually was thinned out among humanity.
Yup, she did create a loop, though I suspect it was unintended and she just followed Squall as he was the slowest of the group to get back.
No idea what her ultimate goal was of time compression, though she needed Ellone to complete her power set, so the power displayed in game isn't what she actually wanted.