Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired
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I'll shoot for the middle ground and say he had the forum goggles on. If that's the case, then he was just so eager to start something that he didn't stop to think if it was really relevant. Kind of like a troll, since both are motivated by their desire for attention, but a guy with forum goggles is just in too much of a hurry to check for holes in his logic.Harmondale2 said:
I am all for criticism, but this is outright censorship. How does this petition do any good for the LBGT community when it condemns one of the few games that let's characters of same gender sleep with each other? If it where successful (and I doubt it would be as Bioware should stand by its writers) it would be a barrier for designers from putting such content in the games in the first place.
If you feel your sexual preference is misrepresented than rail against it. Criticize and lambaste the writer so he can learn either better represent your community or let someone more qualified to do it in the first place.
If you feel your sexual preference is misrepresented than rail against it. Criticize and lambaste the writer so he can learn either better represent your community or let someone more qualified to do it in the first place.
Actual said:
They pretty much decided to make all of the characters bi-sexual and make passes at the protaganist irregardless of gender, which was a huge mistake.
I think the approach from the first game where some characters had these tendencies, and others did not, was a much better approach.
I can see all sides of this, and why a lot of gay gamers might be offended by this. The bottom line is that I think Bioware was simply sloppy about this, like so much in "Dragon Age 2" and decided to try and present their design shortcuts as some kind of progressive feature.
All told it will be interesting to see what happens with their next single player RPG.
Please do not lump all of us in with one loud idiot.CM156 said:
Bioware's same-sex romances are all well-done. (Yes, even Zevran, but DA2 definitely beats him.) There will always just be that one buffoon and his 208 MUPs.
You know, I say that this shows how powerful Games can be as a medium. Something as simple as points towards rivalry in a simple mechanic raise huge questions about sexuality, culture, biology and belief. Here is an argument about ramification for a simple mechanic that are far and away beyond the scope of any other medium. Bioware, most likely, tapped in to this discussion almost on accident.
I'd agree that it is offensive if you're terribly over sensitive. However the writer is not a game designer, so in my opinion this is BioWare's fault. If anyone should be blamed at all...
The writer defended equality and went up to bat for homosexuals and this is his reward?
The petition starter is an asshole.
Progress comes one step at a time. Stop being a baby, things are getting better.
Aren't there more important things regarding homosexuals in the world going on? Equal marriage status? Military? Do something useful.
The writer defended equality and went up to bat for homosexuals and this is his reward?
The petition starter is an asshole.
Progress comes one step at a time. Stop being a baby, things are getting better.
Aren't there more important things regarding homosexuals in the world going on? Equal marriage status? Military? Do something useful.
Too bad online petitions never do anything.
That said, I had to laugh, you really can't please anyone these days without creating 'Blandly McBland's Adventure 2: PAINTWATCHING PRO'.
And even then, someone will complain that its not bland enough.
That said, I had to laugh, you really can't please anyone these days without creating 'Blandly McBland's Adventure 2: PAINTWATCHING PRO'.
And even then, someone will complain that its not bland enough.
WOW.
why is it that tv and movies can stereotype gays ALL THE FREAKING TIME but when a game does it, someone gets upset.
why is it that tv and movies can stereotype gays ALL THE FREAKING TIME but when a game does it, someone gets upset.
In regards to getting rivalry points for turning down Anders.
Has anyone who voices this complaint been turned down before? No matter how nicely it's done it feels like an insult (though not nessarily a harsh one).
Ignoring that no matter what gender you are Anders is attracted to you and blatently jealous of whoever you might be romancing (especially Fenris). It's not a condemnation on homosexuals it is pure and simple an aspect of Anders personality.
Has anyone who voices this complaint been turned down before? No matter how nicely it's done it feels like an insult (though not nessarily a harsh one).
Ignoring that no matter what gender you are Anders is attracted to you and blatently jealous of whoever you might be romancing (especially Fenris). It's not a condemnation on homosexuals it is pure and simple an aspect of Anders personality.
You think we should break it to the little bastard that stereotypes in games pop up more often than shell casings?
The guy who made this petition is a troll, plain and simple.
This petition and complaint came out on the same week the targeted writer valiantly defended same-sex romance inclusion in games against a conservative fan who was both homophobic and xenophobic. The conservative man was humiliated across the internet and suddenly a guy springs up attacking the same thing, only this time it's under the guise that it is offensive to gays. He attacks the same writer who defended gay rights and didn't even write the same sex option.
And suddenly this petition starts attack the same writer who didn't write the same sex story tree but defended it!
This petition and complaint came out on the same week the targeted writer valiantly defended same-sex romance inclusion in games against a conservative fan who was both homophobic and xenophobic. The conservative man was humiliated across the internet and suddenly a guy springs up attacking the same thing, only this time it's under the guise that it is offensive to gays. He attacks the same writer who defended gay rights and didn't even write the same sex option.
And suddenly this petition starts attack the same writer who didn't write the same sex story tree but defended it!
Seems like they should've just left the whole homosexual concept out since people are gonna complain about it. I wonder if Total War Shogun ever floated the idea of putting in Shudou. From Japan to Greece there's been homosexual relationships between men. Alexander the Great, Achilles (although mythological) liked men. If people are so uncomfortable with it they should play something else like checkers of solitaire. Infinite replay value there.
I think that gay gamer should be fired from where ever he works for stero typing gays as people who are timid and completely understanding (I know that when I asked a girl out and she turned me down I wasn't exactly happy with her, and I know vice versa when her friend asked me out and I turned her down, are you saying gays are somehow different than straights?). He clearly believes all the gays are the same because he's lashing out that this gay is different than him.
I'm a male teenage gamer who drinks energy drinks, I missed church in order to play games. Therefore games and energy drinks are evil because all male teenagers in the world are being corrupted by their devilish touch of awesome. Honestly, I don't think you can attack the 'gay gamer society' because I don't think there is a gay gamer society, I think there is a basic society, and possibly even a internet society, anything else are like clubs or guilds or whatever you want to call them, small little groups that formed together.
If gay gamers, a generalization right there, are all mad because gay's were stereotyped, then they are supporting gays being stereotyped because the fact that they themselves are treating things as though they are a different from the rest of us and all think in the same way.
I'm a male teenage gamer who drinks energy drinks, I missed church in order to play games. Therefore games and energy drinks are evil because all male teenagers in the world are being corrupted by their devilish touch of awesome. Honestly, I don't think you can attack the 'gay gamer society' because I don't think there is a gay gamer society, I think there is a basic society, and possibly even a internet society, anything else are like clubs or guilds or whatever you want to call them, small little groups that formed together.
If gay gamers, a generalization right there, are all mad because gay's were stereotyped, then they are supporting gays being stereotyped because the fact that they themselves are treating things as though they are a different from the rest of us and all think in the same way.
really? its a fucking game. grow up and deal with how the people make it. the people who got offended by the gay reference with anders, grow the fuck up and move on. i mean really, you want someone fired over a god damn game? if you don't like it, don't fucking play it. morons who have to try to ruin a good game cause of something they don't like.
I actually agree with the gay community for a change. Amazing. This guy is a complete idiot. Of course, I dislike for the same, yet somewhat opposite problem. Take homosexuality out of the game. It really pisses me off when some hits on my character. Fucking lame. In real life I'd punch the guy in the face.