Gearbox CEO On Gamer Criticism: "Some People Are Sadists"

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Littaly

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Coming from someone else I might at least see where the comment was coming from. It's easy to rip something to shreds, so easy you sometimes forget people put a lot of effort into making it. And I can understand partially see how really hard criticism might seem hurtful if you've put your heart and soul into a game.

But from the creator of Duke Nukem Forever? That (and obviously I can't say for certain, I'll reserve myself for having misjudged the situation) wasn't just a bad game, that was a bloody ruse. They took over a decade old trainwreck, brushed it up to where it could just barely be classified as a game, accelerated the hype-train to 300 mph, and hoped to sell enough copies to make a profit before people realized it was sheit.

I can understand if creators feel like gamers are reacting in an unfair or overblown manner at honest failures or under performances. But if there is one failure in recent gaming history that I would call anything but honest, it's Duke Nukem Forever.
 

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honestly I think they are taking what he said out of context for the most buzz worthy story. I think and I must stress THINK that he was talking more about the people who you know sent gearbox death threats over aliens and duke nukum rather then those who shared their legitimate disappointment with the game.
 

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The foolish man builds his house upon the sand, imagine how incompetent you have to be to build the house out of sand as well...
 

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How fucking delusional you have to be to completely dismiss the absolutely valid criticisms of both A:CM and DNF?, not only that, but outright lying to your customers about the game you're selling with complete bullshots of the game's footage.

Sega should sue the fuck out of Gearbox, I'm glad I got Boderlands 2 via the Humble Indie Bundle and gave NONE of my money to 2K/Gearbox.
 

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Dynast Brass said:
The other irony here is that GG doesn't really seem to target big companies like Gearbox anyway. You hear orders of magnitude more every day about "Wu" or "Quinn" than you've heard in the lifetime of GG about Gearbox.
I'm not actually sure how GamerGate is related to this?

On topic:
Man, I remember Gearbox being a company that would make pretty excellent PC ports, and some excellent games of their own, like the Brothers in Arms games, Borderlands, etc.

Now it just seems like they're wallowing in self-pity, taking on projects that have no interest in finishing properly, and then drama-queening when Gamers are unimpressed with their half-baked efforts.
 

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Some people are sadists, and some people lie about their games and their games end up being a horrible broken mess.

In fact there's probably quite a bit of crossover their, it's not a giant leap to imagine someone who has lied to their customers on multiple occasions and given their customers shit for their money could be both.
 

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Some people ARE "sadistic assholes" but that's human nature. What's worse is to use this tiny minority of sadists to smear and disregard legitimate criticisms.

Oh, and, in this case, Mr Pitchford you don't make an outright lie in your "Vertical slice" trailer and then expect people not to be mad when the kobe beef filet mignon you promised turns out to be fried dogshit.
 

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Sorry Randy but when you're asking £40 for people to come see a castle, handing out flyers showing a castle made out of jewels and marble only for the reality to be made out of sand and dog turds, then some sandcastles deserve to be stood on... and then pissed on... and then covered in rotted mackrel... and then the seagulls come for the mackrel and tear the landscape apart... and shit on it.

I think I may have gone a bit overboard here...
 

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Marxie said:
ecoho said:
honestly I think they are taking what he said out of context for the most buzz worthy story. I think and I must stress THINK that he was talking more about the people who you know sent gearbox death threats over aliens and duke nukum rather then those who shared their legitimate disappointment with the game.
Go spend at least $40 on Colonial Marines. I'd like to see you holding yourself from sending anonymous death threats after that.
And that's where you live. $40 is is about 1/10th of my entire salary in my country, and I work in STEM FFS.

Dynast Brass said:
The other irony here is that GG doesn't really seem to target big companies like Gearbox anyway. You hear orders of magnitude more every day about "Wu" or "Quinn" than you've heard in the lifetime of GG about Gearbox.
To be fair - if I were GG, I could at least understand that Randy is being a whoring corporate shill who's reading a text his (not so good) PR department wrote for him. Whoring one's name out = understandable, nothing can be done about it in the contemporary market environment. People who're doing pretty much the same effect but for their ideology though? Not much can be done about that either the way I see it, but I also see it being a lot more insulting and enraging to a lot of people.
first off a game is NEVER worth the life of another so yeah not hard for me to hold myself back on that.
second if its 1/10th your salary to buy games you should maybe wait for reviews before buying a game.

Honestly you sound a bit like a twit when you say things like this, and I know your not after seeing your posts in other threads, so maybe try reading before you post a bit more.:)
 
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Wow, what a douche.

Yeah, there are a lot of sadistic assholes on the internet, but your perspective is fucked if you think everyone who doesn't side with you is just being a sadist.
 

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Randy is not inspiring any trust with his public postings. The only way he is going to get any trust back for Gearbox after the Aliens fiasco is to make a game and actually deliver on what gets shown. I kind of wonder if he got goaded out by Jim thanks to his last episode on youtube.
 

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As an added joke it seems Aliens Colonial Marines is 75% off this weekend on Steam. Oh Randy, we're living in a post-steam refund world, watch your profits drop.
 

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No, Mr. Pitchford, I don't feel compelled to stomp on anyone else's sandcastle. I only want to see yours get stomped. I supported you, even after Duke Nukem Forever, because I still liked what you and your people were doing. I figured that any problems with DNF were because of its insane development clusterfuck, the majority of which not connected to Gearbox, and you were just doing the best you could with what you had.

Then Aliens: Colonial Marines came along. Few games make me as excited as the announcement of Gearbox making an Aliens game made me. I loved Borderlands, and watching all of your interviews about Aliens: Colonial Marines made it look like you and your team actually cared about the franchise and wanted to do right by it. Your enthusiasm when describing all of the little environmental nods to the movies, the sheer glee on your face as you explained a plausible "sonic electronic ballbreaker" weapon system, the pride in your voice as you spoke of the game's story and canonical place within the timeline of the movies... goddamn was I excited. I even broke my "no preorders" rule for this game. But it was all an act, one specifically performed to get Aliens fans like me to preorder.

And what did I get for my faith in you and your team? A broken piece of shit which neither looked nor played like ANYTHING you'd talked about. A broken piece of shit barely even worked on by Gearbox proper. A broken piece of shit that was under-funded because resources were diverted to Borderlands 2. A broken piece of shit that you lied your ass off about through a fake smile every step of the way, even long after the point where you and the people at Gearbox knew what kind of condition the final product would be in. A broken piece of shit that, still to this day, you try to claim you were nothing but an innocent victim of. More lies.

You fucked up, Randy. Maybe if you'd just apologized and admitted that you fucked up with Aliens: Colonial Marines, that you were more focused on Borderlands 2 and that's why A:CM suffered, then I probably would have been able to at least forgive you for it. But you didn't. You showed your true colors as a deceitful snakeoil salesman, and THAT is why I wouldn't feel any sorrow if your sandcastle were to be stomped. You only have yourself to blame for losing this particular fan.
 

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I used to be on your side you ****. I thought it was unfair that Gearbox couldn't live down Alien Colonial Marines while they were still making good games. Now? You deserved WORSE than you got.

Frankly at this point I consider it a miracle that you didn't royally fuck up Homeworld for everyone who loved it.
 

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Steven Bogos said:
So there you go. According to Pitchford's speech, all of you guys complaining about how laughably broken Colonial Marines was are just that jerk kid at the beach who kicks over sandcastles.
i like you steven
 

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"less sophisticated mind"

Unlike of course, Mr. Pitchford's mind, which goes straight to insulting his critics rather than releasing games which are worth buying. For some reason, I don't think he's a qualified psychologist or social researcher, but rather the frontman for a scam artist of a studio that keeps releasing broken games that they acquire long past the point where they have any relevance, and then selling them on the reputation of Borderlands, the original property, and of course, deceitful trailers. Or hell, even more recently, selling the same game again.

Disappointed I picked up The Pre-Sequel in the steam sales now. Last Gearbox product I'll pay for.
 

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Dynast Brass said:
The other irony here is that GG doesn't really seem to target big companies like Gearbox anyway. You hear orders of magnitude more every day about "Wu" or "Quinn" than you've heard in the lifetime of GG about Gearbox.
Could you not? I mean seriously, could you GGers not do this? It's an incredibly annoying derail, meant to start more petty bullshit. In fact, several of the people involved in various slap fights are in this very thread, condemning Pitchford. Hell, I don't think I've read a single post in support of him(Ok, maybe one, and it didn't mention GG). So could you please not?
 

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Randy Pitchford is fast approaching Phil Fish/Latter-day Cliffy B in terms of being a loathsome turd of a human being.

Hell, at least Phillipe Poisson was just a douchebag, not a LYING douchebag.
 

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Loonyyy said:
Dynast Brass said:
The other irony here is that GG doesn't really seem to target big companies like Gearbox anyway. You hear orders of magnitude more every day about "Wu" or "Quinn" than you've heard in the lifetime of GG about Gearbox.
Could you not? I mean seriously, could you GGers not do this? It's an incredibly annoying derail, meant to start more petty bullshit. In fact, several of the people involved in various slap fights are in this very thread, condemning Pitchford. Hell, I don't think I've read a single post in support of him(Ok, maybe one, and it didn't mention GG). So could you please not?
Might wanna go look at the guy's post history, he's not pro-GG...though I don't think he's had a single post that wasn't connected to it in some way. Just ignore, guy's not interested if he can't bring GG into literally every conversation.

OT:

Oh look, Pitchford opened his mouth and said something again. Isn't that sorta natural anymore? Guy's been deflecting and blaming the audience for everything since around Borderlands 1 came out and people had problems with it.

Then the Sega blamegame, the GOTY editions of their games not actually giving all the DLC while implying they do in addition to them costing far too much, Gearbox really has alot to answer for if they want to keep being a company, because Bordercashcow is starting to dry up and while Battleborn looks interesting, I see it staying around slightly longer than Evolve only if it's EXTREMELY lucky considering it looks to be really similar to Overwatch. And as we all know, even a bad Blizzard game(personally all of them since they started their WoW bull) will sell enough that you can wipe your ass with nothing but the cases for the rest of your life and never use the same one twice.