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SuperUberBob

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ultrachicken said:
Of course, this is a generalization that doesn't apply to everyone.
Destroyed your entire argument with that comment.

Your confirmation bias makes it impossible to see things properly. Women are not more complacent about their pay and are just as scared of infuriating their boss as any other worker. They are stereotypes that are used to fit your preconceptions.
 

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SuperUberBob said:
ultrachicken said:
Of course, this is a generalization that doesn't apply to everyone.
Destroyed your entire argument with that comment.

Your confirmation bias makes it impossible to see things properly. Women are not more complacent about their pay and are just as scared of infuriating their boss as any other worker. They are stereotypes that are used to fit your preconceptions.
How does that destroy my argument? Just because it doesn't apply to everyone doesn't mean it applies to no one. I'm pointing out that this is about the average, not everyone on planet Earth, in order to keep people from getting pissy.
 

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It's simple gender classification. This will all go away when humanity realizes that that the genders are not different entities, but two equal halves of a whole.
 

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BlindMessiah94 said:
Why do hot dogs come in packages of 8 while buns come in packages of 12?
Buns now come in both packages of 8 AND 12 as do hot dogs.

BlindMessiah94 said:
Also why does it hurt when I pee?
This is the result of an alien abduction. You need not worry about seeing a doctor - terrestrial technology won't find the combination tracking probe and impotence generator.

BlindMessiah94 said:
OT: It's just the way of the world. It's called stereotyping. We tend to judge groups of people by the actions of the majority (or at least the media visible majority).
More men have hit women than vice versa. Women throughout history have been viewed as a weaker species. For a man to be hit by a woman is so against our normal way of thinking we tend to just assume the man should grow a pair and "man up". A woman we are more sympathetic towards. Weird huh?
The question being asked I suspect is specifically WHY such sterotypes exist. In most of these cases it can be readily traced to various social conventions and historical events at the heart. There are reasons behind sterotypes - perhaps not rigorous ones but reasons nonetheless.
 

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Why do all gender topics deal with conflict issues or do nothing other than talk about whom is the most disadvantaged in any situation.
Reality is men and women are not just inversions of the other the polar opposite of a masculine trait is not automatically something women would do of feel the opposite of just because they don't happen to be men.
 

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ultrachicken said:
SuperUberBob said:
ultrachicken said:
Of course, this is a generalization that doesn't apply to everyone.
Destroyed your entire argument with that comment.

Your confirmation bias makes it impossible to see things properly. Women are not more complacent about their pay and are just as scared of infuriating their boss as any other worker. They are stereotypes that are used to fit your preconceptions.
How does that destroy my argument? Just because it doesn't apply to everyone doesn't mean it applies to no one. I'm pointing out that this is about the average, not everyone on planet Earth, in order to keep people from getting pissy.
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that you don't have any postgraduate full-time work experience and thus are talking completely out of your ass. If you did, you would realize that your generalizations are ignorant and horribly inaccurate.
 

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ultrachicken said:
So, the other day I thought about some unfair aspects associated with gender.
It's much more acceptable for a woman to hit a man than the other way around.
It's less acceptable for women to be aggressive (this results in the average woman receiving a lower wage than the average man)
Men are considered great if they have sex with lots of women, but if a woman has sex with lots of men they're considered a slut.

This isn't necessarily associated with everyone here, but it appears to be the general attitude. Why is this?
I'm a boy, in case it comes up.
I hate to say it but the majority of sexism comes from women at men. women can hold a public rally against men and clal them "pigs" as much as they want. people may not like it but no one stops them or openly has a go at them. If a man did that but the other way around you could bet the media would jump on that and he would be a periah. I dont understand the world today, this also applies with races but the less said about that the better.
 

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Daveman said:
Pararaptor said:
I've got

And you don't even have to think that deeply - it basically calls promiscuous women "shitty" straight out, no pop sociology required. You rarely come across a sentence that can be so universally insulting and disgusting - it's really quite impressive.
I think the key and lock analogy is actually used because it's hard to get a woman to sleep with you, not so with men. Men are up for almost anything with anyone.
As a(n intentionally) chaste man, I disagree. I may be in the minority, but I intend to save myself for marriage. It's just not worth it to me to risk STDs, or even just the plain old emotional attachment that goes with sex.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
To me, enjoying sex doesn't make anyone a slut. Sleeping around does, and I hold that same standard to guys as well as girls. If you have a single partner, or a small group of partners who are all aware of who you're sleeping with, that's not slutty. But if you have six or seven different guys/gals on the line, or pick up just anyone from the bar and bring em home for a shag, that is being a slut. Or if you are single, and tend to fuck on the first date, again, slut. But there isn't really a good word to call a guy who does that, slut tends to apply more to women, so I'd call such guys dicksmurfs or losers.
Dude, my point is that guys are commended for sleeping with a lot of women, but women are called sluts for sleeping with a lot of men.

And of course I fuck on the first date. Why would I not? I obviously find them attractive because I'm on a date with them and sex is one of my favourite pastimes!
 

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Amberella said:
CINN4M0N said:
Kalezian said:
OT, I do find it funny that women think its funny to kick a guy in the balls [protip: two guys might be foaming at the teeth, ready to kill each other, but they will never kick the other in the balls], but yet its called 'domestic violence' when guys kick them in the same area.
Do women actually think that shit's funny?

Man, that's just plain wrong.
I'm a woman and I don't think that's funny at all.

But if the guy deserves it, I see nothing wrong with it.
So if a woman deserves to get punched in the face or kicked in the stomach, then that's ok too?

Khell_Sennet said:
But there isn't really a good word to call a guy who does that, slut tends to apply more to women, so I'd call such guys dicksmurfs or losers.
How does having sex on the first date make you a loser? What is it that makes it inherently wrong to have sex, other than abrahamic morality?
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
Dude... have you ever heard of Scotland?
 

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thehorror2 said:
Daveman said:
I think the key and lock analogy is actually used because it's hard to get a woman to sleep with you, not so with men. Men are up for almost anything with anyone.
As a(n intentionally) chaste man, I disagree. I may be in the minority, but I intend to save myself for marriage. It's just not worth it to me to risk STDs, or even just the plain old emotional attachment that goes with sex.
You don't really disagree. Well, if you think men who don't want casual sex are the minority that is.

Personally the "saving it for marriage" thing doesn't make sense. You aren't going to get an STD if you wear protection and how can you know that's the person you want to be monogamous with for the rest of your life if you haven't found out what they're like. Poor sex can ruin relationships so it's best to find out what they're like beforehand.
 

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Pararaptor said:
I've got a question: Why is it that a woman can wear trousers & no-one so much as bats an eyelid, yet a man who wears a dress is "a pervert"?
Because men's legs by and large look grim when framed by a skirt- all hair and nobbles. Still, I must confess I often pine for the freedom of a skirt, especially on clammy summer days, maybe with a nice sporren to go with it...
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
And my point is that I don't commend guys for sleeping around. Nailing numerous different chicks may be some retarded badge of honor for guys these days, but I see it as whorish and self-demeaning. It just shows that the guy in question can't make it in a serious relationship, sex being a single-serving pleasure as they toss women away before the women get wise to their flaws and insecurities.

Forget this "Nailed X Chicks" achievement, you want bragging rights guys, stick to one gal, and go for the high score in how long you can make it with her, and just her.
Yeah but the majority do. And I can't believe that you're saying that everyone must be in a relationship to be fulfilled in life. That's just bullshit. Everyone has different ideals and the whole point of this 'slut or not' debate is that nobody should have the right to call anybody a slut for making different choices to their own.

I know you mean well, but dude, just stop.
 

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ultrachicken said:
So, the other day I thought about some unfair aspects associated with gender.
It's much more acceptable for a woman to hit a man than the other way around.
It's less acceptable for women to be aggressive (this results in the average woman receiving a lower wage than the average man)
Men are considered great if they have sex with lots of women, but if a woman has sex with lots of men they're considered a slut.

This isn't necessarily associated with everyone here, but it appears to be the general attitude. Why is this?
I'm a boy, in case it comes up.
Men, women, they're all sluts if they sleep around! It's bullshit, just because it's invertion against insertion doesn't make one thing less used.

Standards will always exist, the only thing that matters is that you live up to your own standard.
 

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Double standards yo. Why is it that a man can be ugly and be a hero (see the hunchback of notra Dam, Beauty and the beast) but women always have to be pretty? Why is it always the prince saving the princess? Why are women expected to raise the kids? Why are nurses generally female and doctors are generally male? Why are aggressive men looked up to and aggressive women called shrews? Very deep cultural sexual distinctions. Keep digging into it and your bury yourself in the mountains of distinctions that society creates.
 

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ultrachicken said:
So, the other day I thought about some unfair aspects associated with gender.
It's much more acceptable for a woman to hit a man than the other way around.
It's less acceptable for women to be aggressive (this results in the average woman receiving a lower wage than the average man)
Men are considered great if they have sex with lots of women, but if a woman has sex with lots of men they're considered a slut.

This isn't necessarily associated with everyone here, but it appears to be the general attitude. Why is this?
I'm a boy, in case it comes up.
Heres the thing. I am a fat ugly under achiever, therefore I am bitter against women because they will not shag me. As a result I will find every little detail that is unfair between the genders and make it into a big issue. I know I do this, but I don't know why I won't stop doing it, so I will keep on doing it.

You hardly ever see good looking girls in stable relationships who hate men and you hardly ever see good looking successful men who get lots of sex who care about gender issues.

I think that basically bitter ugly people who do not get enough good sex worry about these sorts of things. Also ugly feminists that want to be men, again under achievers in the career world who will blame their failures on something other than themselves.

I know I am guilty of these offenses so I guess it is just human nature to want to blame something, or someone for own own failings or for us not having the things we want to have.

But I do think women overall are far too picky when it comes to getting a shag.
 

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I thought this would be about Gender Theory I studied in English last year... (In a conversation, women are more likely to encourage, pay compliments, interrupt and men are more likely to challenge and insult, if I remember correctly.)
I don't really see why the clothing thing is a problem. The buttons on a woman's shirt are on the right hand side because yeas ago, people used to dress women and men used to dress themselves. Now we can wear what we want, we don't have to look feminine.
My boyfriend did put my bra on his head and pretended he was Mickey Mouse if that counts?
That probably made little sense. I'm tired mmkay.