Geohot Hints at Plans After Sony Settlement

[The Almighty Aardvark]

"As of 4/11/11, I am joining the Sony boycott. I will never purchase another Sony product," Hotz wrote yesterday [http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/2011/04/joining-sony-boycott.html]. "I encourage you to do the same. And if you bought something Sony recently, return it."

Riiight, because most of the people supporting him were definitely going to BUY sony products.

 

[Emergent]

And this point, quite frankly, none with you.

Don't start none, won't be none.

EDIT: @JDKJ's edit: if you don't like having your points debated rhetorically, please cease backing your arguments up with logical fallacies and outright fabrications such as claiming to know what the defense, judge, and prosecutors were thinking, frequent appeals to authority, and outright attacking the person of another (seriously, you owe dan an apology).

 

[gphjr14]

So pretty much if you do something you know will be used illegally but that wasn't your your intention, that makes it OK. Too bad the law doesn't feel that way. Just ask Limewire.

Dammit, you're right. We should totally outlaw VCRs, DVRs, CD and DVD burners, and the internet. They can all be used for illegal purposes, so we should hold their creators, developers, producers and distributors liable.

Apple and oranges, nice try though (not really)

As a reasonably intelligent person who was knowledgeable about the technology Geohot couldn't have possibly thought "Gee waaay more people will use these codes to install Linux even though most PS3 owners haven't, nor plan to, and the number of those who will pirate will be minuscule in comparison."

I'm sure you or someone else will retort "Well you can't say for certain what Geohot's thoughts were at the time." and such a statement is true and would work in court.

But seriously there's no way, again in the reasonable logical mind of an adult, that he thought this would be used mostly for installing another OS. Prior to the PS3 being cracked the sole motive for cracking the PS3 was to augment and curtail the security of the PS3 to enable pirating. If you're gonna pirate just be real about it. Don't hide behind BS claims of fighting for a greater cause, and paint Geohot as some hero standing in the shadow of an evil corporation.

 

[ionveau]

I dont see why any PS3 owner would be apposed to this guy, you know unless your so brain washed that only the idea of piracy would make you turn your friends to the police in the name of saving some faceless corporation a few penny's as they plan on sucking as much money from you as if your a sheep.

This is why PC gaming is dying and console gaming is growing

PC games make the most money from moms/old people/little kids/people who dont know better
You how? when i bought my computer i had games installed on it, i was like sweet i play those games then i see that you can only play 5 games a day after that you need to pay money for extra coins for GAMES ALREADY INSTALLED ON MY COMPUTER
Dont get me wrong these games where not online they where casual puzzle games.

This is how PC games make money


On the flip side we have the console games this is how they make money.

They appeal to the teenage market and brain wash them into thinking that you are a "hardcore" gamer if you spend $60 a week on our pallet swap games "e.g call of duty"
They limit the ways new software can be gotten so your FORCED to buy software THEY give you and in all that time the excuse to lock the console for licensed developers is to prevent "piracy"

That's BS can you imagine if Microsoft sold you a PC then said you cant install a software or product unless its approved by Microsoft first?

Im sorry maybe people like the simple click button pay $60 play game approach to consoles but i dont i would rather see console be turned into sand boxes of opportunity And if you dont then dont use it and stop bashing people moving forward

 

[JDKJ]

So pretty much if you do something you know will be used illegally but that wasn't your your intention, that makes it OK. Too bad the law doesn't feel that way. Just ask Limewire.

Dammit, you're right. We should totally outlaw VCRs, DVRs, CD and DVD burners, and the internet. They can all be used for illegal purposes, so we should hold their creators, developers, producers and distributors liable.

Apple and oranges, nice try though (not really)

As a reasonably intelligent person who was knowledgeable about the technology Geohot couldn't have possibly thought "Gee waaay more people will use these codes to install Linux even though most PS3 owners haven't, nor plan to, and the number of those who will pirate will be minuscule in comparison."

I'm sure you or someone else will retort "Well you can't say for certain what Geohot's thoughts were at the time." and such a statement is true and would work in court.

But seriously there's no way, again in the reasonable logical mind of an adult, that he thought this would be used mostly for installing another OS. Prior to the PS3 being cracked the sole motive for cracking the PS3 was to augment and curtail the security of the PS3 to enable pirating. If you're gonna pirate just be real about it. Don't hide behind BS claims of fighting for a greater cause, and paint Geohot as some hero standing in the shadow of an evil corporation.

Careful, now. Some doo-doo-brain is gonna jump outta the woodwork and insist that you can't possible know what was in Hotz' mind. Even though all the evidence would tend to suggest that your claim as to what was in Hotz' mind is in fact precisely what any other reasonable person would conclude was in his mind. But I guess it's easier to ignore the evidence and the clear conclusion it suggests and, instead, accuse you of attempting to be a clairvoyant.

EDIT: And, just as FYI, every day in countless courtrooms across the country, the finders of fact are called upon to do just that: determine what a defendant's state of mind was at a particular time. This is especially true in criminal trials where the so-called "mens rea" (i.e., "the guilty mind") is more often than not an issue of fact to be determined. How do the fact-finders look into the defendant's mind and determine the mens rea? They do so based on the available evidence and the obvious conclusions to be drawn therefrom. I guess that's "clairvoyance," but it happens, as I said, every day in countless courtrooms.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Am I the only one who was expecting this?

 

[gphjr14]

Careful, now. Some doo-doo-brain is now gonna jump outta the woodwork and insist that you can't possible know what was in Hotz' mind. Even though all the evidence would tend to suggest that your claim as to what was in Hotz' mind is in fact precisely what any other reasonable person would conclude was in his mind.

Well that's one of the luxuries of childhood you can pick and choose when to use logic and reasoning, especially when it suits you.

 

[dkyros]

I am really disappointed. I will admit that I was on Geo's side no matter how unpopular that is now. Yep, disappointment... but surprised? Only a little.

 

[Daniel Stoneback]

This guy is an idiot and I support Sony in going after him. I personally love Sony and all they put out and will continue buying their products.

 

[Neyon]

This guy is an idiot and I support Sony in going after him. I personally love Sony and all they put out and will continue buying their products.

I must say I am also in no way impressed by what this guy did in the first place. Whatever his intentions were he allowed people to play pirated games on the console. If I gave weapons to every single person in the world then I would be responsible for the bloodbath, as it would always have been inevitable. It would be far better to show sony how allowing users to upload their own homemade games could be profitable for them rather than hacking the system.

Honestly, I really hate the whole "f*ck the system" attitude which is often found in my age group. It really is just a bunch of douchebags who think they are saving the world because they are annoying some random business.

 

[ionveau]

This guy is an idiot and I support Sony in going after him. I personally love Sony and all they put out and will continue buying their products.

I must say I am also in no way impressed by what this guy did in the first place. Whatever his intentions were he allowed people to play pirated games on the console. If I gave weapons to every single person in the world then I would be responsible for the bloodbath, as it would always have been inevitable. It would be far better to show sony how allowing users to upload their own homemade games could be profitable for them rather than hacking the system.

Honestly, I really hate the whole "f*ck the system" attitude which is often found in my age group. It really is just a bunch of douchebags who think they are saving the world because they are annoying some random business.

Your comparing piracy a thing that makes people happy to weapons that have no good side
Troll more bro?

 

[gphjr14]

This guy is an idiot and I support Sony in going after him. I personally love Sony and all they put out and will continue buying their products.

I must say I am also in no way impressed by what this guy did in the first place. Whatever his intentions were he allowed people to play pirated games on the console. If I gave weapons to every single person in the world then I would be responsible for the bloodbath, as it would always have been inevitable. It would be far better to show sony how allowing users to upload their own homemade games could be profitable for them rather than hacking the system.

Honestly, I really hate the whole "f*ck the system" attitude which is often found in my age group. It really is just a bunch of douchebags who think they are saving the world because they are annoying some random business.

Your comparing piracy a thing that makes people happy to weapons that have no good side
Troll more bro?

Oh now I'm sure the Pirates in your avatar would disagree on weapons having no good side. Used correctly they can have many benefits, although one-sided.

 

[Aris Khandr]

Your comparing piracy a thing that makes people happy to weapons that have no good side
Troll more bro?

One could (and should) argue that piracy has no good side, either.

 

[Ellen of Kitten]

I got 10 bucks that says Hotz turns around and builds a class action suit for removing the Other OS functionality.

 

[Eiv]

I personally he should giver the surplus cash to the Japan relief fund. But tbh, i never gave him a penny. Kind of glad now.

 

[JDKJ]

Your comparing piracy a thing that makes people happy to weapons that have no good side
Troll more bro?

One could (and should) argue that piracy has no good side, either.

Yeah, but you'd probably be wasting your time doing so with someone who was proudly flying the Jolly Roger. ^^

 

[JDKJ]

I got 10 bucks that says Hotz turns around and builds a class action suit for removing the Other OS functionality.

He'd be very unoriginal and late to the game. They're already about a dozen of those up and running from last year.

 

[Ellen of Kitten]

I got 10 bucks that says Hotz turns around and builds a class action suit for removing the Other OS functionality.

He'd be very unoriginal and late to the game. They're already about a dozen of those up and running from last year.

But do they have Hotz spotlight, and funding? This is what Hotz has going for him right now.

 

[Choppaduel]

Whatever the deal was, he better have a REALLY good plan for that money or he's gonna take more shit from people than Sony could have ever dished out.

 

[JDKJ]

I got 10 bucks that says Hotz turns around and builds a class action suit for removing the Other OS functionality.

He'd be very unoriginal and late to the game. They're already about a dozen of those up and running from last year.

But do they have Hotz spotlight, and funding? This is what Hotz has going for him right now.

Funding?! What funding? At this point, Hotz'd be lucky if he passed the hat around and actually ended up with anything more than thirty-five cents in loose change been tossed in it. And whatever he may have collected before he lost all credibility is unlikely to be sufficient to underwrite a class-action. Those thing can be a huge money vacumn. And the spotlight that's shining on him is increasingly illuminating him for all to see as the complete douche-bag that he is.