"Good Samaritan" Killed During Nintendo DS Robbery

[chadachada123]

Damn, that is messed up.

Good on that person for trying to protect the kid being robbed. I (hope that I) would have done the same in that situation, but damn, that's messed up.

 

[Yan007]

The Samaritan was a real hero. Shame he had to die. Still hope I would have the courage to step in myself if it comes to it someday, or that another person would step in to save the life of a person I cared about.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

I don't get the need for the gun if it was four people against one. What, was the gun for needed insurance? And where did the guy with the bat come from? An alley somewhere? "So I was just practicing my pitches to get into the league in the cafe nearby and noticed a man in trouble!"

Next we're going to find that the kids get away with it because "They were defending themselves from a guy who was trying to kill them with a bat."

So riddle me this now and riddle me that
From where the hell came the man with the bat?

OT: I find it hard to even form an opinion on this.

It does make me think we have some candidates in case we invoke pirate stye punishment again though. Keelhauling and such might be a fun experience for someone who thinks a gaming system is worth more than human life.

 

[Inkidu]

Well in most states a death related the commission of a felony is capital murder.
So the minors are probably going to be tried as adults.

The sad thing is: People have been killed for less than a Nintendo DS.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

If it makes you feel better, I think you're horrible.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

And this is why I'm afraid to use Craigslist.

This good samaritan is a hero. It's a shame he died... And all this over a DS? Come on! What the hell is wrong with those kids?!

 

[TheDooD]

These people are salvageable. Better people have come from worse.

Punishment. Rehabilitation.

But retribution? Extermination?

The thing about punishment and rehabilitation is that it been glamorized so much that kids don't see it as a big thing. They'll do their time, they MIGHT change and yet most go right back to doing stupid shit. Sometimes extreme measures are needed before people take the basic punishment, rehab seriously again and not go right back to doing that stupid shit that got'em into trouble in the first place. It's also a part of the government to make sure criminals can merge back into society right by giving them quality work.

 

[Dags90]

If it makes you feel better, I think you're horrible.

People with gun access are much more likely to commit suicide because passing ideas can so quickly become permanent reality. Throw in the neurological restrictions on adolescents' abilities to have mature impulse control, it's an obvious recipe for disaster. I would have less remorse if the kids beat someone to death, or slowly killed someone. In those cases there's an intention to cause suffering for the sake of suffering.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

If it makes you feel better, I think you're horrible.

It took me way too long to recognise what that was...

 

[Atheist.]

A used DS split 4 ways is like 15 dollars each. What a fucking waste of time. Seriously, if you're stupid enough to kill someone for 15 dollars, you deserve to rot in prison. If they had a gun, why the hell didn't they rob a store or something that would yield more money or whatever? I just don't understand, if the kid needed such a small amount of money I'd give it to the idiot if it would literally save a life.

 

[Solo-Wing]

I would have hated to be the one selling the damn thing. Kid was just trying to sell the DS for maybe $50 that he probably would have spent on a new game. What did he get? Beat up, Shot in the leg, and witnessed a murder. Perfect. Just. Fucking. Perfect.

 

[Zebidizy]

why where 13-16 yo kids carrying a gun...even better yet how the hell did they get one?

 

[Jegsimmons]

Never bring a bat to a gun fight and NEVER underestimate the stupidity and greed of others.

in b4 gun law explosion flame*

Hey, Guns don't kill people, Nintendo DSs do!

bazing.

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

 

[Jegsimmons]

why where 13-16 yo kids carrying a gun...even better yet how the hell did they get one?

black market more than likely.

this is why i keep a shotgun with ammo around. all these guns getting smuggled in and sold to thugs on the streets makes walking to your mail box a hazard.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

Well, eh. Most people probably will. I just happen to be of the small 'Life is a privilege that can be revoked' crowd.

Besides, isn't death preferable to rotting in a small prison cell for the rest of your life? (Some might argue that is 'just punishment', but they're just eating up resources. Might as well kill them and be done with it.)

I dunno, a more suitable punishment would be having to live with the knowledge of their failure to value human life as long as they live. He made the decision to take another person's life, why should he get the sweet release that a lot of those people desire? That's not exactly FAIR to the life of the person who was taken, is it?

Provided the kid is you know, mentally sane and realizes what he's done. Course, he probably could commit suicide long before that but eh, I don't think that SOB deserves the escape of death so soon. He needs to sit and rot for a bit so he can 'truly' have enough time for his mind to beat into him what a fucked up little person he is.

Again, provided the kid is sane. If he's some sociopath loony bin needing idiot, then yes, go ahead and give him the death penalty.

Might get some backlash myself for the more cruel and dark way of thinking but I'm just throwing in my two cents, don't take it too seriously folks. Approach this post with the thought that I was kinda taking the 'devil's advocate' perspective, if you will.

That's my point, though. Letting him live would just waste space/resources. In California, it costs $50,000 to take care of one prisoner for one year.

One bullet costs less than $5.

You see which is more cost effective, no?

I'd agree with the above statement except for the fact that people waste astronomical amounts of food. Not to sounds like an tree hugging hippy, but the average North American throws out 610 Lbs worth of food per year.

No use complaining about criminals being a waste of space when law abiding citizens waste literally tons more food and energy.

Green moments aside, yes it sucks that that a person died, but wanting to kill the 4 teenagers is illogical. I guess no one learned anything from the Troy Davis incident.

 

[anthony87]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

Well, yes. I have to agree that they should be executed.

The point of prison is to remove people who can't/won't function in society, from society. However, killing someone over a $100 game system is...beyond 'can't function'.

Wow...to be honest I was expecting to be blasted with people saying how horrible I am for thinking such a thing and so on and so forth.

I'm quite plesantly surprised.

If it makes you feel better, I think you're horrible.

Fair enough.

But after saying that, why don't you offer up an idea that could get rid of the little psychopaths for good?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're killing someone for a Nintendo DS at the age of 15 then you're beyond help.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Dear United States,

Stop being fucking mental all the time. It's impossible to take advice from you on morality and values when your laws allow shit like this to happen ALL THE TIME.

??? Does not compute, L.A., along with Chicago, New York, Boston, and DC have the strictest gun control in the US, and in fact much stricter than most European countries.




Also, don't bring a baseball bat to a gunfight. Well, unless you're within 21 feet at the start of the altercation.

gee, you think after the DC gun ban where crime shot up they'd lighten up on the gun laws.
because statistically gun laws open up more violent crime (unfortunately) so they can open fire when ever.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Never bring a bat to a gun fight and NEVER underestimate the stupidity and greed of others.

in b4 gun law explosion flame*

Hey, Guns don't kill people, Nintendo DSs do!

bazing.

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

You guys have guns in your Wal-Marts in the States. We don't up here in Canada.

These kids could've stolen the gun they used from the back of the loading dock. Guns are too accessible in the States.

Sounds like a valid argument to me.

The suspects' age doesn't matter true, but the fact that guns are extremely accessible in the States still leads to massive problems.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

Kill the bastards. Forget their ages.

People like that are a waste of oxygen.

This.

Was this in the States by any chance?

 

[manic_depressive13]

but gun law arguments wont work because of the suspects age. so the gun was acquired illegally, so i wouldn't have mattered. so no point in arguing because neither points would be valid.

Acquiring a gun in a country where they are illegal is much harder than acquiring one in a country where they are legal. In the former situation you need to consort with the black market, taking massive risks in the process, and in the latter you just grab it out of your parent's bedside drawer.

Also, never bring a baseball bat to a gun fight.