"Good Samaritan" Killed During Nintendo DS Robbery
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That's not the point of prison at all. If it were, than anything short of life sentences wouldn't exist. Sure, it might be the case when you're convicting people to such an extreme that they'll never get out, but that's simply a result of the sensitive types not allowing them to simply be executed instead.Kopikatsu said:
No, the point of prison is to teach a reformation. The hopes that they'll think twice about doing anything wrong again.
Unfortunately, the system is so fucked up it tends to lose track of that. Putting people in jail with no intention of letting them out ever again is a complete waste of resources and as mentioned above, only stems from the unwillingness to kill. But anyways, the point is not to remove. If criminals only need to be removed, the solution is death. The point is to "fix" them, whether or not it works seems to be irrelevant these days.
I don't see this as a game-related killing in any way. It was about property.Andy Chalk said:
This didn't happen because the item concerned was game related. The DS didn't influence events leading up to the crime. The fact that it was a Nintendo device didn't exacerbate the situation.
It could have been any other item too. Replace the DS with an i-pod and the story becomes a music-related crime?
Had the victim been selling a phone would this have been telecommunications related crime?
Sorry, no.
Kids wanted something and were going to procure it via robbing some one. The fact that the item was a hand-held console is pretty much irrelevant. People will get robbed for anything and people have been mugged for less.
Using literally any story that somehow has the loosest affiliation with games and trying to make it a "videogame crime" wreaks of Kotaku
You guys are better than this.
.... Really? Alright, I'm all for the death penalty here, to be brought about by being pelted by 1st gen DSes until dead. Think stoning, only with DSes. The gun probably cost more then the DS, unless it's some kind of Super DS why the hell would you shoot 2 people, killing one for it!?!
However according to Seinfeld, if the Good Samaritan had stood to the side and made sarcastic quips, he would have been thrown into jail.
Love Seinfeld, but hated the Finale.
Love Seinfeld, but hated the Finale.
Our Jail system should put them to work, boxing/manufacturing nintendo DS's for the rest of their lives!!!!
Two other options here for teenagers who do crimes like this: 1) A Battle Royal (like the famous Japanesse Movie) to teach them what's worth living for. 2) an Arena (like Spartacus: Blood and Sand) to teach them what's worth fighting for.
Either way is a better option then locking them up, throwing away the key for life, and then paying taxes for the space, food,water, sewerage, and electricity costs for the Kids that should just be killed.
Either way they should have stayed in school, and then they could one day afford a 55" LED TV with Nintendo Wii System, all the friends who are desperate to hand out with you, and be financially independent so you can play games the rest of your life.
Oh well, stupid kids who pull guns and shot out of stupidity.
Two other options here for teenagers who do crimes like this: 1) A Battle Royal (like the famous Japanesse Movie) to teach them what's worth living for. 2) an Arena (like Spartacus: Blood and Sand) to teach them what's worth fighting for.
Either way is a better option then locking them up, throwing away the key for life, and then paying taxes for the space, food,water, sewerage, and electricity costs for the Kids that should just be killed.
Either way they should have stayed in school, and then they could one day afford a 55" LED TV with Nintendo Wii System, all the friends who are desperate to hand out with you, and be financially independent so you can play games the rest of your life.
Oh well, stupid kids who pull guns and shot out of stupidity.
one, no they dont put guns in walmarts like that. they have a seperate system of loading that involves security gaurds.AzrealMaximillion said:
two, they could have still gotten them from across the border which might as well be non existant.
three, even so, the murder rate is dropping and out of all the gun crimes committed it's dwafed by the amount they are used to prevent crime, reported at 2 million times and year but thought to be another 2 million that go unreported so it roughly around 4 million times a year a gun prevents crime or saves lives. so the good outweighs bad.
four, DC had a gun ban and crime shot up 300 percent, gun ban was abolished and crime went down. so yeah, guns are not the problem. fucking criminals that would have them either way are the problem.
um...yes it is easier to acquire one in a country where they are legal.....thats like saying its easier to drive a car when you have a license and a car.manic_depressive13 said:
how ever, because are border with mexico and have cartels and gun runners always smuggleing guns in this country, they would have them even if they were illegal and only law abiding citizens would suffer. like what happend in DC when guns where banned and crime rose 3 times as much.
but for people ignore that 4 million accounts of a gun used to prevent crime or in self defense happens every year. (its 2 million go reported but an estimated 2 million dont go reported so it totals to an estimate of 4 million accounts a year conservatively estimate. So the FBI site tells us.)
and yes, never bring a bat to a gun fight but unfortunately most law abiding gun owners dont carry guns in malls. or post offices, or schools.....which is why massacres tend to happen there alot.....sad....
Prison isn't supposed to be about permanently removing people... it's supposed to be about teaching them a lesson, and hopefully changing the way they live their lives so that when they DO leave it, they'll become functioning members of society.Kopikatsu said:
Unfortunately, locking people way who refuse to change for ten years will do nothing except drain resources on the economy and then release them onto an unsuspecting public. I really fucking wish there was an ACTUAL way to rehabilitate these people. Sometimes I think it'd be great if we'd perfected brainwashing (or as they call it in Starcraft 2, mental resocialization or re-soc) and could at least make them basically decent (if mind controlled) people.
Only in America would the villian in this story be there DS, not the fact that teens can get their hands on guns, or that their parents dont know where the hell they are.
In many jurisdictions, when a death occurs from the use of a weapon that was being used in the process of committing another felony, it's not manslaughter, but murder one.
What a senseless crime. How stupid that the four teenagers even had a gun, and that they brought it with them, and drew it. And how regrettable that the only person with the courage to intervene would pay such a terrible price. We need more people who stand up to bullies, and fewer people who are willing to commit violence over trivialities. I hope they're locked away for a very long time.
What a senseless crime. How stupid that the four teenagers even had a gun, and that they brought it with them, and drew it. And how regrettable that the only person with the courage to intervene would pay such a terrible price. We need more people who stand up to bullies, and fewer people who are willing to commit violence over trivialities. I hope they're locked away for a very long time.
