I don't give them much credit because their primary means of victory was drowning the nazi's in their own blood. They would've been fucked if Hitler didn't have such a boner for destroying everything with Stalin's name on it.Farson89 said:Actually, I think you'll find that day was considerably earlier and happened in Russia, I wish westerners could at least give the Soviets their due. Yes communism is bad and the government was repressive and all that, but they still won the war, the allies just came in at the end and claimed much more credit than they deserved.DirkGently said:The day that marked the beginning of the end for Hitler's Third Reich,
I actually am relatively conservative. Unfortunately, conservatives get a bad rap because of things like, "OMG Google is evil!" and other such absurdities. Just keep in mind there are inaccurate stereotypes of American conservatives just as we have negative stereotypes of you liberal king-worshiping Brits! (well... queen-worshiping now, but let's not confuse ourselves with facts) Silly, since most people I've known from there are pretty awesome. Britain and France in particular dealt with the crap for years before America finally entered the war and helped give the offensive its final little "push" to victory. To suggest that America came in and single-handedly saved the day is to ignore the first..what... 3 years of the war? I find it odd that, instead of bringing our countries closer together because we worked together to stop a destructive super-power, it is another source of contention because idiots want to monopolize on the glory of victory. And I'm not even fully expounding on how France heroically resisted occupation with guerrilla warfare, or how Britain saved numerous French and American lives (at the time, Americans who wanted to fight the war joined the French or British military) by ferrying them across the Channel when Germany was about to overrun them... etc.Evil Jak said:Woah, you, an American, have actually acknowledged the fact that Britain was involved in WWII as well and you didnt win it on your own... You aren't a republican, clearly. Wait, was this Fox News that said this "Anti-American" thing? By the by, I am a Brit. Pleasure to make your acquaintance, seriously, I am sick of getting into debates with Americans and then WWII coming up... I never knew they (often 15-21 year olds) fought in it(!)
guardian001 said:Honestly if the people feel they need a google image to properly pay tribute to something, they probably didn't care much in the first place.
I completely agree with you, this whole thing is ridiculous.Xcelsior said:I'm not denying American lives were taken, but thanks to your info now I know more Americans died so thank you for the new bit of knowledge. My thing is just because google didn't commemorate D-day it's branded as anti-American, doesn't that make it anti-British/Canadian/French and anti-all the other countries that were involved as they had people that died aswell.Jerious1154 said:No, actually. It was 946 Canadians, 2700 British, 6603 Americans.Xcelsior said:I accept American lives were taken, but if I remember my history correctly weren't they mainly British and Canadian?
http://www.ddaymuseum.co.uk/faq.htm
In fact, more American soldiers died during WW2 than British soldiers because of fighting in the Pacific. More British people died in total though because of civilian casualties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Casualties_by_country
And yes, I did just look up all of those statistics 30 seconds ago. I'm not that much of a history dork.
Glad to hear, guess again the minority makes a bad image for the majority.SilentHunter7 said:I like to think it's a small minority. No American I know IRL is like this.
True I have American friends, the problem is that the media shows the same attitudes, alot of it being American made and is very one sided assuming everyone salutes the red white and blue, it gets beyond a joke.paypuh said:There is nothing wrong with being American buddy.
I love how everyone is pigeon-holing an entire country because of one guy's statment.
Just because you weren't taught beyond the US participation doesn't make the rest of it BS.Darkside360 said:I'd like to see your info on this, until then I call BS.
DD tanks were just 1 of the funnies, the others which the US didnt use would have helped break through the defences, not to mention that your just quoting on how stupidly the DD's were used at Omaha.Darkside360 said:Um did you even read your article? It says right in there that we DID use them but not many made it to shore because of the heavy defenses.
And I quote "Sadly, at Omaha beach, only a few of the DD tanks reached the beach as they were launched out of the landing craft too far offshore as the Coxswains of the landing craft feared that if they got too close to the beach, they would hit a mine or be attacked by German Artillery or machine gun fire."
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
funny because america came out the second world richer than going in so that makes loads sensepaypuh said:I don't know why I'm replying again as it seems there are a lot of people here, American and elsewhere that have NO IDEA what they hell they are talking about.
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
But I don't expect anyone not from America to know that. So, just keep making blanket statements that have absolutely no merit, and we'll leave it at that.
That's the way it happened, whether you can comprehend it or not.murphy7801 said:funny because america came out the second world richer than going in so that makes loads sensepaypuh said:I don't know why I'm replying again as it seems there are a lot of people here, American and elsewhere that have NO IDEA what they hell they are talking about.
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
But I don't expect anyone not from America to know that. So, just keep making blanket statements that have absolutely no merit, and we'll leave it at that.
The Bandit said:My typical response to this kind of crap: Who cares?
More importantly, what were they supposed to do? Use the corpses of soldiers to arrange their letters?
Oh dont be silly, the Democrats are in office.DirkGently said:Considering the Republicans are the ones with guns, the democrats would be in a raft.Evil Jak said:Actually, I am pretty sure that people from a democratic country arent allowed to tell other people from the same country to get out... in Americas case, all the Republicans would be floating on a raft made of guns right now... Britains case is a little more complex, shame, I would really like to know who would oust who.DirkGently said:And what if nobody else likes your changes? What if the vast majority don't want your changes? They're well within their right to tell you to get the fuck out.tkioz said:Hold on here, I'm from Australia and there are sure as hell some things I don't like about my country, and I'm well within my rights to work to change these things, I don't know how things are done in America as I don't know much about your laws other then what you see on TV shows, but it was my understanding that you had those same rights as well.DirkGently said:The phrase "If you don't like my country, get out", makes sense. If you don't like someplace, don't fucking be there. For both common sense and the national defense. I wouldn't want people who didn't like my house in my house. They might break some thing or something of that class.
For the record, I was referring to people disliking the country itself, not the way we drive on the road or how we classify our videogames. It's the radio station arguement; if you don't like it, change the channel, don't call in and ***** about what you don't like when it's clearly popular with the majority of it's listeners.
And if the problems in your country really matter to you, you'd be spending your time making efforts to change them, not fuck about on a pointless fucking internet forum.