The Todds a bastard for referring it as an "American milestone".There were British, french, polish canadian and many other countries involved on that day. Also, the Queen of Britain was not invited which is a really kick in the teeth.
I thought Americans called themselves Republican... not Consrvative, thats the British version. Anyway, no. I dont think we have said anything about it. My thoughts of the Republicans are based on Fox news... apparently they have quite a large audience... and they spout a bunch of crap, clearly.oblivionenigma said:I actually am relatively conservative. Unfortunately, conservatives get a bad rap because of things like, "OMG Google is evil!" and other such absurdities. Just keep in mind there are inaccurate stereotypes of American conservatives just as we have negative stereotypes of you liberal king-worshiping Brits! (well... queen-worshiping now, but let's not confuse ourselves with facts) Silly, since most people I've known from there are pretty awesome. Britain and France in particular dealt with the crap for years before America finally entered the war and helped give the offensive its final little "push" to victory. To suggest that America came in and single-handedly saved the day is to ignore the first..what... 3 years of the war? I find it odd that, instead of bringing our countries closer together because we worked together to stop a destructive super-power, it is another source of contention because idiots want to monopolize on the glory of victory. And I'm not even fully expounding on how France heroically resisted occupation with guerrilla warfare, or how Britain saved numerous French and American lives (at the time, Americans who wanted to fight the war joined the French or British military) by ferrying them across the Channel when Germany was about to overrun them... etc.Evil Jak said:Woah, you, an American, have actually acknowledged the fact that Britain was involved in WWII as well and you didnt win it on your own... You aren't a republican, clearly. Wait, was this Fox News that said this "Anti-American" thing? By the by, I am a Brit. Pleasure to make your acquaintance, seriously, I am sick of getting into debates with Americans and then WWII coming up... I never knew they (often 15-21 year olds) fought in it(!)
Hrm...are any British people complaining that Google is un...Un-British (???) because of this Tetris thing?
Oh, and to put it in perspective, keep in mind this "Google is Un-American" thing is not like this huge widespread outcry in America. Without the wonder of the Internet as idiots' soapboxes for unimportant issues no one cares about, this story would never have made any headlines.
Conservatism is part of being a republican, although one can be conservative, yet not affiliated with republicans (i.e. libertarians).Evil Jak said:I thought Americans called themselves Republican... not Consrvative, thats the British version. Anyway, no. I dont think we have said anything about it. My thoughts of the Republicans are based on Fox news... apparently they have quite a large audience... and they spout a bunch of crap, clearly.oblivionenigma said:I actually am relatively conservative. Unfortunately, conservatives get a bad rap because of things like, "OMG Google is evil!" and other such absurdities. Just keep in mind there are inaccurate stereotypes of American conservatives just as we have negative stereotypes of you liberal king-worshiping Brits! (well... queen-worshiping now, but let's not confuse ourselves with facts) Silly, since most people I've known from there are pretty awesome. Britain and France in particular dealt with the crap for years before America finally entered the war and helped give the offensive its final little "push" to victory. To suggest that America came in and single-handedly saved the day is to ignore the first..what... 3 years of the war? I find it odd that, instead of bringing our countries closer together because we worked together to stop a destructive super-power, it is another source of contention because idiots want to monopolize on the glory of victory. And I'm not even fully expounding on how France heroically resisted occupation with guerrilla warfare, or how Britain saved numerous French and American lives (at the time, Americans who wanted to fight the war joined the French or British military) by ferrying them across the Channel when Germany was about to overrun them... etc.Evil Jak said:Woah, you, an American, have actually acknowledged the fact that Britain was involved in WWII as well and you didnt win it on your own... You aren't a republican, clearly. Wait, was this Fox News that said this "Anti-American" thing? By the by, I am a Brit. Pleasure to make your acquaintance, seriously, I am sick of getting into debates with Americans and then WWII coming up... I never knew they (often 15-21 year olds) fought in it(!)
Hrm...are any British people complaining that Google is un...Un-British (???) because of this Tetris thing?
Oh, and to put it in perspective, keep in mind this "Google is Un-American" thing is not like this huge widespread outcry in America. Without the wonder of the Internet as idiots' soapboxes for unimportant issues no one cares about, this story would never have made any headlines.
"Republican" refers to a political party like your Conservative party, though when I used the term conservative, I meant more like political, moral, ethical, what-have-you beliefs often espoused by such groups as the Republicans. In other words, some of my views may be similar to that of the Republicans (ie some of my views are conservative), but I don't consider myself affiliated with that party. I differ in too many areas and prefer to look at candidates based on merit, not on affiliation. That said, Fox News is wonderful at stirring up cesspools of controversy like interviewing Jack Thompson about which video game made the latest spree killer do what he did. Before that it was how Alice Cooper or Marilyn Manson made them do it. Either way, Fox just plays for the ratings like most media does, I suppose.Evil Jak said:I thought Americans called themselves Republican... not Consrvative, thats the British version. Anyway, no. I dont think we have said anything about it. My thoughts of the Republicans are based on Fox news... apparently they have quite a large audience... and they spout a bunch of crap, clearly.
I actually do give Americans a fair chance, the reason I was surprised about you was that you mentioned WWII factually. I had never heard that before. And HEY! Its our language, you will use it how we tell you to... It is the car boot, the boot of a car. You dont speak french and say "Je mappelle Custard Pies".oblivionenigma said:"Republican" refers to a political party like your Conservative party, though when I used the term conservative, I meant more like political, moral, ethical, what-have-you beliefs often espoused by such groups as the Republicans. In other words, some of my views may be similar to that of the Republicans (ie some of my views are conservative), but I don't consider myself affiliated with that party. I differ in too many areas and prefer to look at candidates based on merit, not on affiliation. That said, Fox News is wonderful at stirring up cesspools of controversy like interviewing Jack Thompson about which video game made the latest spree killer do what he did. Before that it was how Alice Cooper or Marilyn Manson made them do it. Either way, Fox just plays for the ratings like most media does, I suppose.Evil Jak said:I thought Americans called themselves Republican... not Consrvative, thats the British version. Anyway, no. I dont think we have said anything about it. My thoughts of the Republicans are based on Fox news... apparently they have quite a large audience... and they spout a bunch of crap, clearly.
I have watched some of those so-called reports (the Jack Thompson one was great), and they made me mad, though not for the reason I'm thinking the producers were aiming for... >.>
In the end, just please don't hate or look down upon Americans because of some idiots. We're not all brainless ultra-republican-conservative-destroy-anything-that's-not-America types. After all, I give British people a chance, and they have the audacity to call the back storage part of a car the "boot"
not matter comprehension its matter of i have seen presidential reports of the time i really wasnt about money, and the excuse of money has been used to cover the fact for the late entry to the warpaypuh said:That's the way it happened, whether you can comprehend it or not.murphy7801 said:funny because america came out the second world richer than going in so that makes loads sensepaypuh said:I don't know why I'm replying again as it seems there are a lot of people here, American and elsewhere that have NO IDEA what they hell they are talking about.
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
But I don't expect anyone not from America to know that. So, just keep making blanket statements that have absolutely no merit, and we'll leave it at that.
If that's what you truly believe, then you go right on ahead and believe that. The Great Depression ended in 1938, but in the two years it took for America to enter the war, the country was still in dire straits.murphy7801 said:not matter comprehension its matter of i have seen presidential reports of the time i really wasnt about money, and the excuse of money has been used to cover the fact for the late entry to the warpaypuh said:That's the way it happened, whether you can comprehend it or not.murphy7801 said:funny because america came out the second world richer than going in so that makes loads sensepaypuh said:I don't know why I'm replying again as it seems there are a lot of people here, American and elsewhere that have NO IDEA what they hell they are talking about.
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
But I don't expect anyone not from America to know that. So, just keep making blanket statements that have absolutely no merit, and we'll leave it at that.
america entered the war in January 1942 man reason for not entering war was lack public support till pearl harbor. also its hard to support Americas actions in other countries when there foreign policy is so horrible im mean leave Argentina alone you dont need to fuck it up anymorepaypuh said:If that's what you truly believe, then you go right on ahead and believe that. The Great Depression ended in 1938, but in the two years it took for America to enter the war, the country was still in dire straits.murphy7801 said:not matter comprehension its matter of i have seen presidential reports of the time i really wasnt about money, and the excuse of money has been used to cover the fact for the late entry to the warpaypuh said:That's the way it happened, whether you can comprehend it or not.murphy7801 said:funny because america came out the second world richer than going in so that makes loads sensepaypuh said:I don't know why I'm replying again as it seems there are a lot of people here, American and elsewhere that have NO IDEA what they hell they are talking about.
I don't suppose you have heard of the Great Depression. THAT is why America didn't join the war right away. The country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis in the history of the country, far worse than today.murphy7801 said:explains why the dint want help out against the nazis till the got bombed by the japanesse. I know alot will not like this statement but its a historical fact Americans got into the war late because they dint want get there hands dirty.bjj hero said:Another example of Americans believing they were the only country fighting on the Allied side, even when they missed most of World War II. Does no one in America study history, or do they learn it from watching BS Hollywood movies?
Winston Churchill said it best when he said:
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing... after they?ve tried everything else."
But I don't expect anyone not from America to know that. So, just keep making blanket statements that have absolutely no merit, and we'll leave it at that.
I find it laughable how America should have entered the war sooner, but any other time America does something militarily, oh my god they are so evil. We all know war leads to death, and it's easy to say that is the last thing anyone wants, but don't sit there and bash America because they didn't help the allies sooner when no one helps America stifle other atrocities. And it's not a matter of America is being the aggressor, it's the fact that the rest of the world leaders don't even want to hear it. It takes the dictator of whatever country to kill thousands or more innocent people before it's okay to take care of the situation.
*mutters something about a boot in your rear* jk Glad to have met you. You are an interesting person, amusing, and recognized me for something rather unexpected, and very much appreciated. I don't like to speak in ignorance, so it's nice when someone appreciates thatEvil Jak said:I actually do give Americans a fair chance, the reason I was surprised about you was that you mentioned WWII factually. I had never heard that before. And HEY! Its our language, you will use it how we tell you to... It is the car boot, the boot of a car. You dont speak french and say "Je mappelle Custard Pies".
WHAT?GeEom said:Number 2
anti AMERICAN? excluding the french, who are french, what about the funking BRITTS on that landing, just because we lost less people doesn't mean we werent there, just that were better than you