Hacker Group Claims Real Ubisoft DRM Crack
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Yippee ki yay, ************! In your face, Ubisoft!
Don't you just love it when ignorant corporations harass legit buyers with this bullshit then the pirates come to save the day?
Don't you just love it when ignorant corporations harass legit buyers with this bullshit then the pirates come to save the day?
Which is why World Of Goo (from 2D Boy) had a 90% piracy rate, and Demigod (Stardock) had so many pirated copies that their servers crashed. Both of these companies had anti-DRM stances.oktalist said:
All this crack is telling Ubisoft is they need TOUGHER DRM. Why? Because the hard DRM they put up was cracked! And now you have people in this thread actually CONGRATULATING the people that cracked it, helping enable piracy, causing companies to want more restrictive DRM as they watch Ubisoft's piracy rates rise.
The DRM is only there in the first place because douchebag pirates steal Ubisoft's intellectual property. So if you want to vent your spleen, go do so at the SOURCE of the problem, and not the victims of it.
EDIT:
Okay, I get that people don't like buying games with DRM. I also understand that Ubisoft's cloud-based DRM scheme is quite possibly the worst idea ever in the long list of bad DRM ideas. However, people seem to neglect the fact that nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to buy Ubisoft's shit, and therefore if you don't like what Ubisoft does, you should just... not buy their shit! It's that simple!
For some bizzare reason I cannot even BEGIN to fathom, some people in this thread are actually PRAISING the people who have cracked Ubisoft's DRM system. The people singing Skid Row's praises don't quite seem to grasp that these hackers have only helped to perpetuate a vicious cycle of consumerism stupidity. SR's work has only helped ensure that things are going to get WORSE for the average gamer, because:
A) The game companies are going to look at this, and the corresponding increase in Ubisoft's game piracy rates as pirates flock to torrent sites like flies to the corpse, and realize that Ubisoft's system of DRM does not work. This doesn't mean that things are going to get better though, because as pirates have proven, leaving your games free of DRM [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.77023-World-of-Goo-Experiences-90-Percent-Piracy-Rate] doesn't do jack to piracy rates. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/91001-Demigod-Piracy-Running-High] This means that a good number of companies are probably only going to tighten the reins further, making up more insane DRM in an attempt to finally thwart piracy. Of course, there's also the possibility that the amount of DRM in games will remain the same: but in my opinion I think it unlikely that the game companies are going to go "Aw shucks, better give up" thanks to this hack. Rather, they're probably thinking "Huh, that didn't work... how about we try THIS?"
As long as people continue to buy games saddled with DRM, they're going to get more DRM. And if they start pirating, tougher DRM will be made to try and stop them. Simple as that.
B) Anyone who bought the games with the cloud DRM deserve what they got. Even if they buy these games ONLY to crack them, they have helped to support Ubisoft's cloud-DRM strategy. Each sale Ubisoft gets tells them that there's either one more person who doesn't mind their DRM, or doesn't know that it's in the game (in which case it's their fault anyway for not doing some damn research.) This means that the crack has practically nil use to legit consumers: it's only helping pirates do their thing.
C) The only reason the DRM is up to be cracked is because people are pirating the games in the first place. It makes NO sense whatsoever to get pissed at Ubisoft: they're not the source of the problem. The source of the problem is the increasing number of pirates. So hate those douchenozzles instead. Skid Row is enabling the people responsible for the DRM in the first place to make things worse for all of us. So why should I be happy for them again?
For some bizzare reason I cannot even BEGIN to fathom, some people in this thread are actually PRAISING the people who have cracked Ubisoft's DRM system. The people singing Skid Row's praises don't quite seem to grasp that these hackers have only helped to perpetuate a vicious cycle of consumerism stupidity. SR's work has only helped ensure that things are going to get WORSE for the average gamer, because:
A) The game companies are going to look at this, and the corresponding increase in Ubisoft's game piracy rates as pirates flock to torrent sites like flies to the corpse, and realize that Ubisoft's system of DRM does not work. This doesn't mean that things are going to get better though, because as pirates have proven, leaving your games free of DRM [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.77023-World-of-Goo-Experiences-90-Percent-Piracy-Rate] doesn't do jack to piracy rates. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/91001-Demigod-Piracy-Running-High] This means that a good number of companies are probably only going to tighten the reins further, making up more insane DRM in an attempt to finally thwart piracy. Of course, there's also the possibility that the amount of DRM in games will remain the same: but in my opinion I think it unlikely that the game companies are going to go "Aw shucks, better give up" thanks to this hack. Rather, they're probably thinking "Huh, that didn't work... how about we try THIS?"
As long as people continue to buy games saddled with DRM, they're going to get more DRM. And if they start pirating, tougher DRM will be made to try and stop them. Simple as that.
B) Anyone who bought the games with the cloud DRM deserve what they got. Even if they buy these games ONLY to crack them, they have helped to support Ubisoft's cloud-DRM strategy. Each sale Ubisoft gets tells them that there's either one more person who doesn't mind their DRM, or doesn't know that it's in the game (in which case it's their fault anyway for not doing some damn research.) This means that the crack has practically nil use to legit consumers: it's only helping pirates do their thing.
C) The only reason the DRM is up to be cracked is because people are pirating the games in the first place. It makes NO sense whatsoever to get pissed at Ubisoft: they're not the source of the problem. The source of the problem is the increasing number of pirates. So hate those douchenozzles instead. Skid Row is enabling the people responsible for the DRM in the first place to make things worse for all of us. So why should I be happy for them again?
No it doesn't mean that at all. Now that the cracking scene knows how this DRM scheme works (does this one have a name? If not, I suggest 'Sucking Chest Wound') that means they know how it works and what to look for. Much less faffing about with heaps of trial and error.Selvec said:
"Does it justify the frustration and anger of thousands of users around the world with a DRM system that still appears to be wonky?"
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.
Take it all Ubisoft. DRM just annoys the hell out of people, make good games and you'll haul in the cash.
Edit: I wasn't really considering buying it until I heard of the DRM, then I KNEW I'd never buy a Ubisoft game, anyhow, they don't make good games anyway.
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.
Take it all Ubisoft. DRM just annoys the hell out of people, make good games and you'll haul in the cash.
Edit: I wasn't really considering buying it until I heard of the DRM, then I KNEW I'd never buy a Ubisoft game, anyhow, they don't make good games anyway.
Surprised it even took them a month. First rule of software: no code is uncrackable, no "security" measures undefeatable. I figure most of this DRM is to prevent used game purchases anyhow, which is where their real sales losses are.
Dude, that is such a crap argument when it comes to gamers loving good games. That would be like being an art connoisseur not liking the design of certain frames around paintings, and then avoiding all paintings that use that frame. If you like art, you are going to fucking look at all the paintings, even if it has an ugly frame!scotth266 said:
Keeping with the art-fan analogy, pirates are like the people who sneak into the art museum and then choose to pay the entrance fee on their way out. It doesn't hurt the museum if they have an extra person in their building because they have to pay rent on the building either way. If the pirate is polite, they will still leave the fee that they were supposed to pay if they enjoyed their time at the museum. Many pirates do this, and hassling them with "security guards" at every painting isn't going to cause them to come back through the front door next time they want to look at art. All Skidrow has done is shown everyone how to avoid the security guards so everyone can enjoy the art museum to its fullest. If the museum takes this as a sign to increase security patrols, then it's their loss when every customer is scared away from the building because there was more security than paintings.
You could just buy the game legitimately and then download and install the crack. That way the money gets to the people who've earned it, but you don't have to bother with the retarded DRM.blackshark121 said:
Despite being the reason it was made harder in the first place.Andy Chalk said:
I swear hackers seem to have the most idiotic and circular logic I've ever seen.
I really wish a permanent and uncrackable form of DRM were possible, just so I wouldn't have to listen to dickheads like this, you're not champions of the people, you're the ones ruining games for the rest of us.
Oh, GAWD, cut the capitalist raving already! The elections are over, you can stop now.scotth266 said:
I don't think you understood the reason for this topic. For once, it's not about copyright law, it's about DRM and how fucking annoying it is. Did you even think about what you are promoting here? Sure, piracy is bad...FOR BUSINESS.
Alright, I'm game, let's talk about the victims: The players! This DRM scheme (like every single one of them) does precisely jack shit to prevent piracy and only annoys the people who actually BOUGHT the game with real money! The pirates have a nice clean game with no DRM annoyance, the only thing they have to do is copy one single file into the game directory and *poof*, DRM gone. While the paying customers will have to put up with server outages, third party rootkits and system crashing loaders and applications that borders on infringing the personal rights. We are actually going backwards! A few years earlier I could play the game I bought whenever and wherever I damn well wanted, and now? The publisher tells me where, when and how I can play the game I bought for $60 (actually more with 0-day DLCs and shit like that)? Male cow excrement, that's what it is! But there is more!
Ripping a complete game apart so they can sell the parts as DLCs and use micro-transactions so we can buy back (on top of the $60 retail price) what was already in the game before they decided to chop it up. Premium memberships, VIP editions, pre-order madness...Hell, they even want us to pay for fucking demos now! For companies like Ubisoft, video games are no longer a form of entertainment, but a way to exploit the fuck out of players. They are milking you dry with all sorts of marketing ploys and you are rooting for THEM?
You are right, the people who actually decided to support this madness and bought games with this DRM really deserve what they got. An insanely expensive piece of dull, overrated shit that they can't even play. Yeah, they really stuck it to the pirates this time, ouch. Can't you see, that these idiotic schemes are only bad for the people who legally buy these games? It's like paying 60 bucks to get gangraped!
And for your no-DRM argument, FYI the global piracy rate is around 95%, that means every single game is pirated that much, not just the ones with no DRM. Actually, 90% is a large improvement. Plus, the people who bought those games doesn't have to put up with any of the crap other "protected" games dish out. You have to understand, that games will get pirated, no matter what publishers do, and the DRMs are only making it worse for paying customers. They are shooting themselves in the foot, hell, they are shooting you in the foot while taking all your money, and you are still brainwashed enough to happily support them? Dude...