"Hatred" Reveal Trailer. Or as I like to call it, "The Next Big Controversy"

[Bombiz]

I saw cops in the trailer.

And you're missing my point, what if it really was a serial killer thing where you had to go on the run from the law rather than just go home. There's potential here.

And killing for fun describes the multiplayer in basically every FPS ever made.

I saw cops getting their asses killed

the game didn't depict the cops as any real danger. if anything they where just one more thing to shoot. and in a multiplier fps people actually try to shoot/fight back. Sometimes with devastating results.

And Gone Home also has potential. Doesn't change what most people think of it though.

You honestly think the cops aren't going to shoot back?

I'd say the odds of that happening are about 0.

t Do you honestly watch that trailer and think the cops are any threat at all? they have pistols against a guy with an AK-47 who doesn't give a shit.
The cops firing back is the equivalent to firefighter trying to tack out a forest/wild fire with min-water guns. ain't gonna do shit.

 

[WhiteNachos]

I saw cops in the trailer.

And you're missing my point, what if it really was a serial killer thing where you had to go on the run from the law rather than just go home. There's potential here.

And killing for fun describes the multiplayer in basically every FPS ever made.

I saw cops getting their asses killed

the game didn't depict the cops as any real danger. if anything they where just one more thing to shoot. and in a multiplier fps people actually try to shoot/fight back. Sometimes with devastating results.

And Gone Home also has potential. Doesn't change what most people think of it though.

You honestly think the cops aren't going to shoot back?

I'd say the odds of that happening are about 0.

t Do you honestly watch that trailer and think the cops are any threat at all? they have pistols against a guy with an AK-47 who doesn't give a shit.
The cops firing back is the equivalent to firefighter trying to tack out a forest/wild fire with min-water guns. ain't gonna do shit.

It's a trailer, it's not a gameplay video. I don't remember any tanks in GTA trailers but if you get the maximum wanted level you have tanks firing at you.

 

[Gennadios]

The trailer plays it straight enough for me to think the creators know what they're doing.

I can see why people disagree with the theme and the emo poetry monologue, but I found the whole thing kind of a wacky reduction to the absurd type thing.

 

[Quadocky]

From the Website:

These days, when a lot of games are heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct and trying to be some kind of higher art, rather than just an entertainment ? we wanted to create something against trends. Something different, something that could give the player a pure, gaming pleasure.

Wow. I wish I lived in whatever imagination land they do.

The game looks exactly like something a secretly neo-nazi person would make. Or an un-ironic metal head.

They have a point, not about the politically correct part but way too many games take themselves too seriously and try to have a story as a main focus rather than new and great gameplay.

Eeehhhhhhhh, I dunno. How can you improve upon a well tread genre aside from giving it a new coat of paint?

Maybe I just think its in poor taste in context to the United States because mass shooters seem unusually common

 

[The Lunatic]

It's a trailer. Too early to say what will or won't be in the game.

We don't even know if it's possible to "Win" the game as such. For all we know the game could just continue to grow difficult until you are killed by the police.

An email from the developer gave the notion that the game will feature a Police/Swat/FBI/Army style progression in difficult, so, yeah. There's clearly a plan that there is going to be a difficult to actually killing people.

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

Looks pretty interesting to me. Really, I'm just glad there's a developer out there with the balls to put you in the shoes of the villain. Looks like a lot of really merciless, vicious killing as well, which is kind of cool.

But then, I also did like that one Uwe Boll movie. What was it? Rampage, I believe. So eh. More media that allows us to play/see the dark side of the spectrum is a good thing, as far as I'm concerned.

Diversity!!

 

[Bombiz]

I saw cops in the trailer.

And you're missing my point, what if it really was a serial killer thing where you had to go on the run from the law rather than just go home. There's potential here.

And killing for fun describes the multiplayer in basically every FPS ever made.

I saw cops getting their asses killed

the game didn't depict the cops as any real danger. if anything they where just one more thing to shoot. and in a multiplier fps people actually try to shoot/fight back. Sometimes with devastating results.

And Gone Home also has potential. Doesn't change what most people think of it though.

You honestly think the cops aren't going to shoot back?

I'd say the odds of that happening are about 0.

eh. Still think I saw a flash game of something like this some where. I guess I don't see what the big deal is. another controversy game, woopie.
t Do you honestly watch that trailer and think the cops are any threat at all? they have pistols against a guy with an AK-47 who doesn't give a shit.
The cops firing back is the equivalent to firefighter trying to tack out a forest/wild fire with min-water guns. ain't gonna do shit.

It's a trailer, it's not a gameplay video. I don't remember any tanks in GTA trailers but if you get the maximum wanted level you have tanks firing at you.

eh. I still think that i've seen flash games like this for free online. idk it just seems like one of "those" games. you know that ones. They have one main gimmick going for it and that's it. kinda like "Gone Home" and "Dear Ester". Games that sell based on Controversy mostly.

 

[Fox12]

God damn, man. I was expecting something *mildly* offensive at best, like that boring ass JFK assassination simulator at best, this is just sheer undeniable BAITING for controversy.

I'm especially looking forward to the part where you help Hitler fly a hundred planes into the world trade centers.

Yeah, this is way to on the nose. I can see them trying to bait the news channels, but I have difficulty seeing this get a release on major consoles or Steam. If not for the controversy then because its stupid and no one will want to buy it. Of course, it ma just fade into obscurity and die with all the other "shock" games. And it's not even that shocking.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Part of me wonders if this was commissioned by people who genuinely hate videogames and/or the people trying to change videogames "for the better"...

Because it kind of looks like Starwman: The Game to me; something manufactured purely to paint the industry and gamers as crazy people. It plays on just about every prejudice and it seems to be doing it on purpose.

Reminder: one of the most popular video game franchises in the world is named after a felony and enables people to go on killing-sprees.

That is done very tongue in cheek with a dark humor context,

*cough* Cop out *cough* *cough* Bullshit *cough*. Oh sorry there was something in my throat. Seriously you're going to argue that you slaughter pedestrians ironically?

What is tongue and cheek about getting into huge shoot outs with the police? The same police that the games say are corrupt? The same police it demands you kill in certain missions because you are a criminal?

What about GTA IV when they tried to have a gritty story with drama and you can still mow down civilians for fun?

If you think GTA is indicative of reality what so ever then there is no point in going into this discussion any further. You said your piece and I said mine, so now all that can be done is allowing people who see these comments to draw their own conclusions.

 

[Uriel_Hayabusa]

I find it interesting that quite a few posters here are saying the trailer ''is too on the nose'' or ''tries too hard to be edgy'' when it doesn't seem all that far off from the way real psychos who go on killing sprees see things.

I mean, Elliot Rodger looked ridiculous and like he was trying too hard to lots of people; but he actually did go on a killing spree.

Maybe the gaming community is more desensitized to violence (or the idea of violence at any rate) than it likes to think it is.

 

[Drops a Sweet Katana]

I'm pretty impressed actually. Most games made by angsty 13 year old are made in flash and look like absolute shite. This actually looks like it was made by an actual developer. Kudos to them.

In all seriousness though, this looks like absolute trash with no sense of tact. Devs, if you're gonna make something for the express purpose of stirring up shit and saying 'Oooh look how mature and edgy we are! Stand back man or I'll cut you!', you could at least try to tackle the subject with some tact and humanity and maybe try to examine what makes someone do something like this. You know, make the whole endeavour worth it in some respect rather than some immature plea for media attention.

EDIT: This is my 666th post, for added EDGE!!!!!!!!111!!!!!one!!!11!!

 

[Uriel_Hayabusa]

Looks stupid as shit, honestly. Imo, the only way a game like this can work is with a serious sense of self-awareness.

I hope it garners "look at how silly this is" press than anything actually controversial.

I find it kinda stupid how people are upset at this tbh.

Looks boring as shit

Gameplay look boring as fuck.

This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.

I can't take this crap seriously.

this looks like absolute trash with no sense of tact.

Wow, people who insist that media doesn't affect behavior would have a hard time explaining comments like this.

And like I said in my previous post, it's strange that people are finding this ''hard to take seriously'' or ''trying too hard to be edgy'' or whatever. You only need to look at snippets of released ''manifestos'' from real-life killers who did the same thing to see the same kind of self-righteous, nihilistic justifications for hating people and society.

I'm curious about what Jim Sterling thinks of the trailer, seeing as he insisted that gamers aren't desensitized to violence.

If you think GTA is indicative of reality what so ever then there is no point in going into this discussion any further.

I suspect WhiteNachos' point isn't whether or not it ''is indicative of reality'', it's whether or not it resonates with violent individuals or makes the idea of doing violent things seem attractive.

 

[C. Cain]

Unless these people also complained about Saints Row they have no right to complain. Let's cut the pretense, most people who have played a sandbox crime game have gone on rampages before, and that's what this game is "GTA rampage the game". That they can be OK with that but freak out over this is hypocritical.

The only difference between the two is that this game requires you to kill civilians while most of the time the sandbox games only force you to kill cops (but sometimes there's challenges that require you to kill civilians to reach 100%).

I was afraid I would be accused of talking down to people as if they were children. That someone might criticise the patronising tone I chose to describe a readily apparent concept for being unhelpful. And yet, here you are.

You, kind sir or lady, are a prime example for someone who utterly failed to grasp the point I was making. I'm not entirely sure if I'm able to express it anymore clearly, especially since your second paragraph shows that you acknowledge the palpable difference in tone, presentation, intent, and therefore context of the games you mentioned.

Maybe I shouldn't have presented it as a dichotomy, i.e. juxtaposing the most easily discernible examples to illustrate my point. Allow me to qualify my examples by adding that they were intended for gamesOr any other given medium. that have a certain grounding in reality, something aiming for a tone that might be described as serious.
Comedies, in contrast, get away with the most outrageous things by virtue of being, you know, comedies. Tongue-in-cheek. Not serious. The Saints Row series, the first one aside, is presented in a comedic context. Thus there is no hypocrisy involved.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I don't know if this has been posted. Forgive me if it has, but apparently, these guys are neo-nazis: http://www.playerattack.co.uk/news/2014/10/17/hatred-is-the-neo-nazi-hate-crime-of-video-games/

 

[xPixelatedx]

Wow, people who insist that media doesn't affect behavior would have a hard time explaining comments like this.

And like I said in my previous post, it's strange that people are finding this ''hard to take seriously'' or ''trying too hard to be edgy'' or whatever. You only need to look at snippets of released ''manifestos'' from real-life killers who did the same thing to see the same kind of self-righteous, nihilistic justifications for hating people and society.

I'm curious about what Jim Sterling thinks of the trailer, seeing as he insisted that gamers aren't desensitized to violence.

If you think GTA is indicative of reality what so ever then there is no point in going into this discussion any further.

I suspect WhiteNachos' point isn't whether or not it ''is indicative of reality'', it's whether or not it resonates with violent individuals or makes the idea of doing violent things seem attractive.

As much as I believe this is in poor taste, I don't believe someone playing a violent game (including this) will make them a violent person at all. There are a great many people who do believe that though, and the purpose of this game seems to entierly be to get a rile out of them, that's my problem with it.

 

[J Tyran]

But no, the game looks irredeemable.

Unless its a deconstruction of the attitude of someone going on a spree killing, like Spec Ops did with military shooters. I doubt it though it seemed to be taking itself seriously.

 

[Danny Dowling]

it's pretty cheesy tbh. hasn't really captured the essence of a man ready to go mow down civilians imo.

let it pass. if it turns out to be good then play it, if not let it disappear into the void of the Steam marketplace.

 

[Silvanus]

This game looks as if it was made precisely to justify what the tabloids have always said about video games.

 

[Bombiz]

Looks stupid as shit, honestly. Imo, the only way a game like this can work is with a serious sense of self-awareness.

I hope it garners "look at how silly this is" press than anything actually controversial.

I find it kinda stupid how people are upset at this tbh.

Looks boring as shit

Gameplay look boring as fuck.

This seems more "Columbine", and done so entierly with a straight face.

I can't take this crap seriously.

this looks like absolute trash with no sense of tact.

Wow, people who insist that media doesn't affect behavior would have a hard time explaining comments like this.

And like I said in my previous post, it's strange that people are finding this ''hard to take seriously'' or ''trying too hard to be edgy'' or whatever. You only need to look at snippets of released ''manifestos'' from real-life killers who did the same thing to see the same kind of self-righteous, nihilistic justifications for hating people and society.

I'm curious about what Jim Sterling thinks of the trailer, seeing as he insisted that gamers aren't desensitized to violence.

If you think GTA is indicative of reality what so ever then there is no point in going into this discussion any further.

I suspect WhiteNachos' point isn't whether or not it ''is indicative of reality'', it's whether or not it resonates with violent individuals or makes the idea of doing violent things seem attractive.

I find it interesting that you like the idea of killing unarmed civilians while they beg for mercy.

I'm sorry but you can't automaticly assume that I'm "desensitized" to violence just because I said the game looks boring as fuck.

It's like saying "you didn't like gone home? You must be a homophobic." It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Phasmal]

Oh wow, maybe I would have been into this if I were still twelve and in a `hating the world` phase.

Though, I'm now going to mentally call that character `NotImportant`.
I did just read an interview where the guy said he was making this as a change from games being `too colourful`. Oh, yeah, games are waaaay too happy and colourful.

To be honest, it looks like it was made to drum up controversy. I'll give it a miss.