Have you ever used Cocaine?

[Ragsnstitches]

I never got why people are so against drugs. I never do drugs, nor do I smoke, but to take away ones right to do that i don't get. They only hurt themselves. It should be legal, but legistlated and controlled by the government. For example, you're allowed to do hard drugs in those big centers they would build, so they're no a danger to themselves or anyone else when they're high. They'd be pretty sure of the quality of the drugs and at all time it'd be easier for them to find a way to go to rehab, because everytime they would go out or back they'd get info on where to get rehab.

And that whole "weed will ruin your life thing" is a bit ridiculous. I know plenty who study medicine, are in the top of their year and party hard and also do weed.

"They only hurt themselves"

That isn't true for all cases.

Most drugs purchased from a street corner dealer are so impure there is a chance you could get a bad dose and it could kill you. I can guarantee you that very few people have access to quality products in this industry. The folks selling this stuff want money, not your personal satisfaction... if they can cut corners they will, and have done so with tragic consequences.

Some drugs are so potent they have a chance of killing you even when pure, moderated dosages are impossible for them.

There are other drugs that have adverse long term psychological affects on an individual, some of which can lead to variety of different forms of psychosis. Who looks after these people when they become unfit to look after themselves? What happens if it makes them unstable and dangerous?

Some Drugs have immediate psychological effects, some of them even inducing anger or forcing adrenaline (fight or flight hormone) to be pumped throughout your body... Ever here of Roid-rage? Or what about the invincibility drug (PCP)?

There are only a few drugs that I can think of that have no perceivable negative impact IF used cautiously. But the people who tend to take these drugs are already skirting rational thought, so caution might not be present. Only a small number of drug users are responsible enough to consume their preferred substance and not suffer any affects.

The major problem with drug consumption, especially those that have immediate psychological affects, is the person taking them. Psychologically influential drugs can be a bad mix with someone who has problems. Most of the major drugs can have adverse affects on anyone, depending on dosage or how your body metabolises it.

Body Chemistry, Mental Health and responsibility are incredibly important for "safe" drug consumption, but they aren't things most consumers consider.

Society/Family/Friends are the ones who have to pick up the pieces for this negligence...

OP: I've already seen one person ruin their life with weed, a drug even I consider relatively harmless. I'm not willing to chance the stronger stuff.

But I don't see why it's illegal. People will do what they want, the role the state should have is to minimise the negative impact, not make incentives for it. Legalising drug consumption gives room for education of proper use and understanding of possible consequences.

 

[Pharsalus]

Tried it, ha a few older roomates who were into it. Certainly was a rush, too much of a rush, got all jittery and sweaty trying to do anything, video game, chess even. Overall not worth the expense, and certainly not worth going to the ghetto to acquire the stuff.

 

[razer17]

Do you think that most people started doing hard drugs under sound reasoning, do you think it makes any sense for somebody to do a drug that could reasonably kill them in one single use?

Yes, yes I could. A lot of cocaine users are high powered, intelligent individuals. Corporate lawyers, bankers and stock traders and these sorts of people, who'll use cocaine on the weekends like it's like its caffeine.

Raw cocaine in itself isn't that dangerous. What's more dangerous are A: the cutting agents, and B: crack cocaine. Crack is much more potent, much more addictive and generally nastier than "vanilla" coke. I'm not saying it's safe or advocating people use it, but it's not the most dangerous drug around, plenty of people use it occasionally and never really have ill effects (except legal effects if they get caught).

OT: I have never tried cocaine, I never intend to try cocaine. I still think it should be legalised though.

Well, aside from reducing people to subhuman creatures who end up shaking in my waiting area hoping for methadone, there is the moral dimension that anyone who buys cocaine helps finance the FARC in Colombia and a host of other similar crime cartels. They make themselves responsible for that by financing those cartels.

That would be strange, since Methadone is a substitue for heroin, which is quite different to cocaine.

One reason that I personally have for legalising certain drugs, including cocaine, is the involvement of these criminal gangs. It's kind of circular reasoning, but if governments did legalise it they would massively decrease the revenue that these groups generate. We can never stop drugs, so legalise them, make legit operations, maybe we stop people like FARC and the cartels.

Cocaine IS very dangerous, even in it's pure form, it's not very selective at all in it's action and it causes a cascade of effects throughout multiple systems in the body, whereas most drugs are fairly selective in their effects and have little to no effect on bodily systems outside the good stuff. This means that, unlike most drugs, there effectively is no safe dose. I can IV Xmg's of heroin and be 99% sure one way or the other whether this dose will kill me. I can IV Xmg's of cocaine (pure) and whether it's fatal or not is entirely up to how my individual body deals with it... something no one can possibly know.

It's not a matter of "cocaine is a hard drug, so it's dangerous". Cocaine, pure or not, freebase form or not, IS far more dangerous than most (all) common recreational drugs. Including heroin and meth. Heroin is ironically a fairly safe drug all things considered, it's the addiction potential that makes it dangerous, that and the complete lack of understanding in it's users about purity, tolerance and how they relate to the dosages they should be taking.

With most drugs risk is a question of responsible use, take a low dose, no risk, take a high dose, you're risking it. With cocaine that question is gone, any dose could be lethal and there's no way of knowing.

Although, after a little research on how dangerous cocaine really is, I have decided it's more dangerous than I first thought, but I also maintain that it isn't as dangerous as heroin or crystal meth (according to David Nutt in the Lancet). Cocaine is the 4th most harmful drug to people (which is weighted by number of people using it) so since cocaine is more used than meth and heroin, I still think its not as bad as those two.

 

[Phasmal]

Never tried any drugs, cept the ones the doctors give me. Sadly, my family has a history of mental instability. I think taking drugs would be too much like tempting fate.

I'd rather just stay in and play games.

 

[RustlessPotato]

How you like this sexy snip ?

It's true now. That's why i was imagining a world where the government would have total control of the hard drugs supply and you would only be allowed to use it in appointed buildings where at all times they would be watched when high and always have acces to rehab. If we would get that, there wouldn't really be so much a need for a black market where you would get those drugs illegally and the drugs would be of better quality altogether. Though you always have some stuff no one should ever use, like that "krokodil" drug in Russia.

I know it's not a reality and i'm not advocating drugs. But I find the attitude of some governments on them a bit dated. When their "war on drugs" is failing, they should look for an alternative (looking at you, U.S of A). Why not legalise it and tax it ? Especially weed ? Especially if you can get it by saying you hurt your back ? I mean even Colombia is to enact the legalization of drugs.

There are probably some factors i'm not aware of though, because i'm from Belgium, so feel free to educate me.

 

[Zenn3k]

I did a line once, didn't really feel anything.

Little bit more energy I suppose...but I wasn't impressed overall. Maybe I just didn't do enough

 

[Ragsnstitches]

How you like this sexy snip ?

It's true now. That's why i was imagining a world where the government would have total control of the hard drugs supply and you would only be allowed to use it in appointed buildings where at all times they would be watched when high and always have acces to rehab. If we would get that, there wouldn't really be so much a need for a black market where you would get those drugs illegally and the drugs would be of better quality altogether. Though you always have some stuff no one should ever use, like that "krokodil" drug in Russia.

I know it's not a reality and i'm not advocating drugs. But I find the attitude of some governments on them a bit dated. When their "war on drugs" is failing, they should look for an alternative (looking at you, U.S of A). Why not legalise it and tax it ? Especially weed ? Especially if you can get it by saying you hurt your back ? I mean even Colombia is to enact the legalization of drugs.

There are probably some factors i'm not aware of though, because i'm from Belgium, so feel free to educate me.

I added a bit at he end of my post... I agree, it shouldn't be made illegal based on draconian standards. It should be monitored and controlled, but not made taboo... that just creates even more incentive for people looking for fringe thrills. EDIT: And those people are the most likely ones to harm themselves or others.

"tickled ivories"... what have you been smoking captcha?

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Ehh... Nope. And I don't think I ever will. Weed is good enough for me.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

It's probably one of the drugs I would almost certainly avoid due to fear of becoming an addict. Have you seen what that stuff can do to your septum if you abuse it? Nasty shit man...

However, as with most things, I am of the opinion that so long ass nobody else is being hurt by it, what life choices, for better or worse, other people want to make are not my business, and from a purely pragmatic point of view it just makes so much more sense to legalise all drugs, even the harder stuff, rather than continue with this phony and counter-productive 'war'.

 

[The Last Nomad]

I don't like the effects of cocaine, but I can only judge from the legal alternatives and this one bag I found on the side of the road, which was most likely cocaine, but I'm not sure.

Cocaine is one drug I don't really want to do but I'm not overly against it.
I feel all drugs should be legal, cocaine included, but I won't be buying it if it ever is.

 

[BodomBeachChild]

I used to love coke =( Goodbye right nasal passge. It's a pretty wicked drug to do and is hella fun, but screw it. Not worth fiending for it not being able to breathe and too goddamn expensive.

I'll stick to the herb. Cheaper, maybe not as bad for you, and keeps my head focused on what I need. I've always wanted to chew a coca leaf though! I don't believe in using hard drugs but if the US went the way of Peru maybe it'd work to keep drugs off the street. (looking at you US Government)

 

[DugMachine]

Was offered some at a party in Highschool. I didn't do it though as I was already high on weed and super mellow and the thought of mixing that with the effects of cocaine didn't sound good to me.

Plus as I stared at the lines, the shit just looked kinda.. idk I just felt REALLY bad things were gonna happen if I snorted that.

 

[Ekit]

No and never will. It's something about the snorting aspect that just seems incredibly discomforting to me.

 

[figday]

Nah, not yet. I'm dead curious though.
One day..

 

[royohz]

Why use cocaine when they are far easier, cheaper, far more effective things to use?
Shit I remember when I was on ADHD meds. That stuff is better than any cocaine.

Really? And also, you don't happen to know what'll happen if e.g. ritalin and thc/cbd is consumed somewhat simultaneously? Anyone?

OT: I've thought of it a few times, and although it sounds... "fun", I do not want to get into that sort of trouble. I'll stick to the occasional herb or alcohol, even though my psychiatrist discourages those things, too.

 

[Vuliev]

I have not used cocaine, and will never do so. It's way too goddamn expensive, and the vast majority of "commercially available" cocaine is pretty fucking dangerous.

Since someone mentioned legalization: I'm not sure how I feel about that. Government control and regulation would definitely help keep cocaine safer and cleaner to use (and radically undercut the cartels to boot), but unless handled very well, you could still end up with people doing the same things they do now with their cocaine (cutting and Crack) which more or less defeats the purpose of trying to make cocaine safer.

 

[Woodsey]

Nope, no interest in it. (The idea of it going up your nose weirds me out a little anyway.) If people want to use it that's up to them.

Usually smoke a bit of weed if a mate offers and we're painting the town fabulous, but I much prefer being pissed.

 

[elvor0]

S'alright, not one of my favorite drugs, I have to be in the right mood to enjoy it properly, plus it clogs your nose up, I'm more of a downer/tripper when it comes to drugs though. That and good coke is hard to find, let alone the fact that £50 of weed will last a fuck load longer than £50 of coke, plus crap weed is generally easier to spot than crap coke. It's just all white powder to me.

Saying that, LoL/CSS on coke is fantastic.

captcha: on the ball. Yes, yes I am.

 

[Smeatza]

Waste of time cocaine.
Like ecstasy but lasts for 10 minutes, is much more unhealthy, addictive and expensive.
Don't even bother experimenting with it, if you must do a hard drug grab some MDMA.

 

[Snowbell]

I'm against ALL the drugs, in any form!

My friends were snorting icing sugar and I wouldn't even do that! I'm such a rebel!