Here Is Your First Fallout 4 Trailer

[Willy Rogers]

Being able to climb ladders sounds just as far fetched as having proper cloth physics on clothing, no more glued on dresses and trench-coats would be nice.

 

[icecycle66]

To heck with an interesting story, well developed characters, and some sort of security against sudden program crashes; I want better jump animations. I mean, come on, I jump my way everywhere anyway. In 200 hours of game play 190 hours are me jumping from place to place.

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

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I dont want vehicles put into the game i think adds to the feel of the game having to walk for miles in the dangerous wasteland for miles to get from place to place. I rarely use the fast travel system in these because of this reason. I think this time around i might even try hardcore mode. "COS IM A REBEL"

Man, I agree with you, but I love the idea of being a very literal wanderer, with your home being a truck or something. I wouldn't really want it to be a battle truck, at least not until later, so you could still have dangerous encounters in the thing. Imagine trying to outrun deathclaws as they tear the shit out of your car.

But still, I get you, walking and all that is cool. So just don't use the car XD

 

[Atmos Duality]

My main interest here is morbid curiosity.
It only seems fitting for me to observe Fallout 4 given that Fallout 3 was the game that pissed me off so much that I basically renounced AAA gaming hype in its entirety. Cynical smugness is a common perspective today, I know, but that wasn't the case for most of gaming in 2008.

I'm curious to see what, if anything, Bethesda has learned since producing the game that gave me 50+ crashes to desktop in a single playthrough. What they've learned since shitting out literally the dumbest, most plothole ridden story in a major game production since...honestly ever.

Will they deliver on promises of something grander than before, or will they once again resort to making things APPEAR grander and only show the good parts in their trailers and demos?

I look forward to Fallout 4 as a marvelous litmus test for next-gen gaming; to see how much Bethesda and the average gamer has raised/lowered their standards in the past 7 years.

ASIDE: I will give Bethesda props for not running what little they showed through another awful color filter. "Tequila vision" made Fallout 3 bleak, yes, but in the same cheap, artificial way that infomercials and pharmo-ads juxtapose BAD/GOOD with "Greyscale/Color".

the only thing I'm extremely cautious about with this is...paid mods, the wording they used when they got rid of them made it HIGHLY probable it was going to make a comeback with a new release game, and what game is good as ever as fallout 4 to force choke people into paid mods. So I'll probably be waiting until after release unless they announce beforehand they won't be doing paid mods with F4

Oh but didn't you hear?
Without pay, modders are subjected to literal SLAVERY because work without pay is always slavery (NO, don't think about it, LISTEN AND BELIEVE) and you wouldn't want to be pro-slavery, would you?
Some pretentious git on the internet told me so, so it must be true!

 

[Asclepion]

By the way, Crysis was released in 2007.

 

[Willy Rogers]

By the way, Crysis was released in 2007.

That's nice? I suppose you mean something about graphics? Here's the thing, how expensive was Crysis to make? Take also into account that alot of computers couldn't run it at max settings when it was released, even some really high end stuff (within most people's budget anyways).

 

[Asclepion]

I'm agreeing with the people saying that the graphics are below standard. I don't care about Fallout, but I think it's fair to expect more from Bethesda.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

the only thing I'm extremely cautious about with this is...paid mods, the wording they used when they got rid of them made it HIGHLY probable it was going to make a comeback with a new release game, and what game is good as ever as fallout 4 to force choke people into paid mods. So I'll probably be waiting until after release unless they announce beforehand they won't be doing paid mods with F4

Oh but didn't you hear?
Without pay, modders are subjected to literal SLAVERY because work without pay is always slavery (NO, don't think about it, LISTEN AND BELIEVE) and you wouldn't want to be pro-slavery, would you?
Some pretentious git on the internet told me so, so it must be true!

eh I got into the discussion pretty heavily when steam tried to implement this, so I won't start it again since there are a few users on here who were on the complete opposite side of my position, but I just don't want to support a game that implements it the way steam did a while back, which is why I hope they'll be coaxed into answering that question before fallout 4 is released, otherwise I'll just avoid it for a while until it's on a cheap sale.

 

[DrownedAmmet]

Graphics are ok (Skyrim level is ok)
BUT
animations, Animations and ANIMATIONS DAMMIT!!!
Better geometry and colision detection, no invisible walls or fake surfaces (even in places where noone ever could get- there were numerous times when I wore jetpack in FO3, tried to get to vantage point on roof and found out that there is no solid roof )
And animations.
Also taking few notes from SkyUI would be great.
Also, did I mentioned animations?

P.S. Voiced character is interesting thing to experiment with (even if that would make modding even more restrictive)
P.P.S. And last but not least- animations.

I'm in heavy agreement that the weakest part of Bethesda games currently is their animation system. They make small iterative changes with each game, but really they need a massive jump to even catch up to the current standard. The smoothness of the dog's animations provides a little hope, but we'll have to see if that's applied to all characters, or just the dog.

The dog was good, but that dude walking at the end was very stiff.

OT: This trailer brought back some really good memories from when I played Fallout 3 last, really makes me want to try New Vegas out

 

[lacktheknack]

I feel like I'm being trolled. I'm told the new Tomb Raider trailer looks like crap, and THIS is somehow the second coming of Jesus?

It's aesthetically/thematically the exact same as the last game. I had enough Fallout 3 when I finished Fallout 3!

The exact same?

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Can't help but disagree. There's a very sizable gulf in quality, and the apparent allowance of the full range of color rather than massive amounts of desaturation and color correction from New Vegas and 3 means they look very much different.

I'll give you color, but other than color, they DO look the same. They're going for the same atmosphere using the same method to the same effect. And seeing how I modded Fallout 3 to be less green, I really don't see a difference between what I played and what's being advertised.

 

[Areloch]

I feel like I'm being trolled. I'm told the new Tomb Raider trailer looks like crap, and THIS is somehow the second coming of Jesus?

It's aesthetically/thematically the exact same as the last game. I had enough Fallout 3 when I finished Fallout 3!

The exact same?

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Can't help but disagree. There's a very sizable gulf in quality, and the apparent allowance of the full range of color rather than massive amounts of desaturation and color correction from New Vegas and 3 means they look very much different.

I'll give you color, but other than color, they DO look the same. They're going for the same atmosphere using the same method to the same effect. And seeing how I modded Fallout 3 to be less green, I really don't see a difference between what I played and what's being advertised.

Well, if we're going to say mods are a valid point, then why would it be hard to believe that a modded version of this wouldn't look superior to a modded fallout 3. 4's engine clearly can already handle better baseline textures than 3 came with, and mods will inevitably push those even further comparatively.

 

[Atmos Duality]

eh I got into the discussion pretty heavily when steam tried to implement this, so I won't start it again since there are a few users on here who were on the complete opposite side of my position,

Oh I know, mate. I know.
Sorry if it seems like I'm just shaking the tree here, but my last encounter left me LIVID at the pretense of it all. Which is as good a reason as any to let the issue lie here.

This hobby, this industry is a fucking madhouse.

...but I just don't want to support a game that implements it the way steam did a while back, which is why I hope they'll be coaxed into answering that question before fallout 4 is released, otherwise I'll just avoid it for a while until it's on a cheap sale.

Definitely with you there.
I absolutely won't support any game where the developer dictates what mods get made for their game and how (beyond the realms of reason; like cheating in competitive games).

Because I believe in maintaining an open space for expression that isn't dominated by the cynical quest for money and all the extra baggage that comes with it.

 

[Azkar Almsivi]

More desolate arid American terrain. Looks like Fallout 3 re-textured.
I know the history of the Fallout games is obsessed with America but still. Couldn't we get one based in Alaska? Asia maybe? Europe?
I guess all these American monuments and such just don't appeal to me after several games of almost the same themes and scenery.
This one seems like it's going to focus on the Brotherhood of Steel as well, well ain't that dandy.

Guess it's easier than actually conceptualizing new content for an entirely different biome with different factions and mutated wildlife.
Plus the nostalgia brigade would have had a pink fit if it wasn't USA radiation television post-apocalypse just like all it's elder siblings.

At least I have the DLCs from 3 and New Vegas.

 

[Buckets]

Fallout 3 was and always will be amongst my favourite games (I started gaming in the 80s, so its amounts to a lengthy period of time). Loved the post-apocalyptic theme and the sheer creativity of the designers. I am so happy that there will be a fourth and it will certainly be on my to buy list.

A London/Paris one would be an interesting idea, maybe as a DLC or something.

 

[blackrave]

The thing with europe is that going by what I've seen in the lore then it was never nuked and the only places that saw nuclear bombs dropping in that region was the middle east. All it did was basically tear itself apart via conventional war. Though I suppose a game set in europe would retcon that. I know I'm extremely curious about what happened to Norway given the oil we sit on(which I assume ran dry somehow given the war was over the middle easts oil wells) and all the thorium we're sitting on(which would be -extremely- valuable in a world where nuclear fuel is in much more demand due to oil going bye bye).

The only thing that can be said for certain is that large parts of the world must've gone un-nuked or there'd be no vegetation left to produce oxygen(that and who'd waste nuclear bombs on the amazon? or the vast uninhabited parts of Russia? Or the basically uninhabited mountains in northern europe?). If anything the lack of an explanation for the rest of the state of the rest of the world is rather weird since most countries weren't even involved in the war between China and USA(no european country was even in a state where they could do -anything- about it).

It would be kinda funny if remaining world would be mostly utopian societies.
Why nobody helps USA?
1.Most people don't really care about US or China because these fuckers killed each other.
2.Those who tried, were eaten by deathclaws or killed by supermuties.

 

[Nikolaz72]

It would be kinda funny if remaining world would be mostly utopian societies.
Why nobody helps USA?
1.Most people don't really care about US or China because these fuckers killed each other.
2.Those who tried, were eaten by deathclaws or killed by supermuties.

I doubt thats the case and it'd be rather silly if it was. Granted fallout has always been a tad silly. That said I always got the impression that the conventional warfare used in the resource war and the subsequent infighting amongst the dissolved European Commonwealth(pseudo-EU) trashed the european countries so hard that it'd take a -long- time to recover when the nuclear fallout began to spread across the globe and generally make the climate turn shittier. That said there's still the open questions of what happened to Africa, south america and parts of central america(Mexico is implied to have been nuked in Honest Hearts).

Or to put it like this: Europe is probably busy with old habits and the knowledge of no oil to get anywhere would be common knowledge. With the USA and China nuked into near oblivion, they'd be worthless in terms of other resources anyway insofar as people living on another continent cared.

Most of all that.... I really wanna know what happened to Norway! I know why its never touched on since its assumed all oil ran out and the thorium discoveries happened after F3 was released anyway(plus I'm surprised whenever anyone outside of europe even remembers we exist xP).

Europe was torn apart by the resource wars and most member states left the Union/Commonwealth. Britain is implied to have survived as a nation state with Scotland still existing (You actually encounter a Scottish traveler in the series who doesn't appear to be a vault dweller)

There's also a brotherhood of steel member whose a descendant of a family of finns who fled Europe I seem to remember. Though most likely they were attacked by Russia (that said, don't think finns were caught unawares on that front, they're always preparing for the russian invasion), not the fellow members of the Commonwealth. I just don't see Sweden/Denmark/Norway even in a post apocalyptic scenario having any reason to invade Finland. Then again, Fallout is crazy.

With Germany having been likely the single largest remnant of the Commonwealth, Denmark/Sweden/Norway might have remained with it. Since while the United Kingdom or France could have split off I don't see a reason Scandinavia would risk a war of aggression with such a large neighbor even 'if' the world was going to (or had gone to) shit. Though maybe that's my idealism speaking and Germany could well have invaded a united Scandinavia in an attempt to seize what little remained of the ocean oil, winning (Even in a post-apocalyptic world if they weren't nuked chances are they're more powerful) and forcing them into submission whilst wasting the last resources fighting France and the U.K.

In which case your Norway might well be part of what remains of the European Commonwealth, for better or worse. Surviving nuclear war and russian invasion, if barely.

That's just my speculation anyway.

Bonus edit:

In an expanded cold war, the U.S Government (Enclave) could very well have built vaults on Greenland and Svalbard escaping nuclear disaster. This would be historically accurate to similar things done by the U.S. Though unless they were SECRET vaults (Not uncommon for the fallout series) I don't know how they would have lasted.

 

[sorsa]

Looks like Fallout 4 doesn't intend to reinvent the wheel. It would be cool if we mo.ved ahead in the Fallout timeline to a time when they've started rebuilding some of civilisation, cities that are no longer emergency makeshift shelters, but advanced like Vault City from FO2.

Rustic tincan towns in seas of sand settings are cool too, but start to get repetitive by now.

 

[Willy Rogers]

Looks like Fallout 4 doesn't intend to reinvent the wheel. It would be cool if we mo.ved ahead in the Fallout timeline to a time when they've started rebuilding some of civilisation, cities that are no longer emergency makeshift shelters, but advanced like Vault City from FO2.

Rustic tincan towns in seas of sand settings are cool too, but start to get repetitive by now.

It is like that on the west coast, mainly California, New Vegas is pretty much empty because it's supposed to be like the frontier of the old west. Really they just keep setting it in wastelands because that's core to the series, surviving in the nuked out inbetween. Honestly i'm hoping Boston is kind of like Mega City One from Judge Dredd.

 

[Politrukk]

Looks like Fallout 4 doesn't intend to reinvent the wheel. It would be cool if we mo.ved ahead in the Fallout timeline to a time when they've started rebuilding some of civilisation, cities that are no longer emergency makeshift shelters, but advanced like Vault City from FO2.

Rustic tincan towns in seas of sand settings are cool too, but start to get repetitive by now.

Agreed, tincantowns are sort of losing their charm on me too

I wouldn't mind playing fallout in a devastated version of New York(and then just New York), It's been done in movies sure, but can't remember a video game that did it, could be great for open world settings.

 

[4Aces]

So was the old engine used to create just the trailer, or are we going to have to suffer through it again for the 14th year in a row? Yes, I know they claimed the "Creation" engine was a totally re-written version of Gamebryo, but that turned out to be less than honest. I guess they consider a new LOD module and a fix for the broken shadow/AO system, to be a total re-write. Perhaps they copy and pasted the other 2 million lines of code into a new window before recompiling it all...

Here's hoping this is just a tech demo and the game was made with something written in the last five years. Also tacking on the hailmary that they finally abandoned the Havok physics engine. If this is the old engine, then the most notable thing I saw in the trailer is that the dynamic shadows and AO were not working properly, if at all. At least the LOD system still *seems* to work.