Hey 4chan? Can we talk briefly?

[Thorn14]

Literally arguing with a strawman. The all caps part is really funny too.

 

[carnex]

Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches.

And why would 4chan care?

Because overwhelmingly vast majority of 4chan are not like that.

There are boards that you should avoid like plague if you don't have really thick skin, can accept that in closed community important words can become meaningless (actually on 4chan that's pretty much on purpose) or can externalize other people's opinion like whole NSFW (often called NSFL) section and sometimes /v/

There are boards for very specific tastes that are not up to everyone's taste (and in some cases can cause nausea) like /u/, /d/, /y/, /t/, /h/

There are boards with some strong content but nothing really disturbing like /s/, /hc/, and the rest of adult section not mentioned previously (drawn stuff can be really disturbing)

And the rest are really clean and really productive. But you can run into, or you could at least 5 years ago, really supportive and helpful threads even on /b/. It's just that it's on a bottom of a cesspool. They really don't want you there unless you are willing to dive down with them

 

[Thorn14]

alot of good boards would also not give a shit what outsiders think too.

 

[Ilovechocolatemilk]

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Don't fall into the trap of thinking any forum is a monolith. 4chan is just a collection of anonymous people. There's no central guiding ideology. Without usernames, there's no guarantee that a single person from that thread contributed to TFYC, you could be dealing with two completely different groups of people. Also, people tend to flock to threads that they agree with. An openly sexist thread is likely to attract sexists.

Which is not to say that there isn't a great deal of unsavoury people on the board or that you ought to like it. I only warn against thinking they tar the work/opinions of supporters/creators of other people just because they shared a space. No-one really represents the site, and there was a large contingent of vocal critics there against funding TFYC and creating VJ on 4chan itself (still is).

Well, 4chan is crashing and burning. Curious to see how low it will go:

To note, I donated 120 dollars to the TFYC campaign and had been browsing 4chan since 2008. Now that that sellout m00t is banning discussion on GamerGate, I'm here. Good riddance.

 

[Pinkamena]

Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches.

And why would 4chan care?

Because overwhelmingly vast majority of 4chan are not like that.

There are boards that you should avoid like plague if you don't have really thick skin, can accept that in closed community important words can become meaningless (actually on 4chan that's pretty much on purpose) or can externalize other people's opinion like whole NSFW (often called NSFL) section and sometimes /v/

There are boards for very specific tastes that are not up to everyone's taste like (and in some cases can cause nausea)like /u/, /d/, /y/, /t/, /h/

There are boards with some strong content but nothing really disturbing like /s/, /hc/, and the rest of adult section not mentioned previously (drawn stuff can be really disturbing)

And the rest are really clean and really productive. But you can run into, or you could at least 5 years ago, really supportive and helpful threads even on /b/. It's just that it's on a bottom of a cesspool. They really don't want you there unless you are willing to dive down with them

Yes. I know. I have been using the site for 8 years already. My question was rhetorical, for 4chan doesn't care about its reputation, at least not the parts of 4chan that counts. Bad rep is what it thrives on. It's a pile of horribleness (or, used to be) and that's the way it needs to stay.

 

[chadachada123]

I may be uninformed...but why exactly should anyone give a single fuck about nude celebrity photos?

They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?

And as far as threats of *new* releases go, again, it's an illegal act by some member(s) of 4chan, with only the misinformed thinking that 4chan is some collective. And, again, I ask, who cares? And why?

"Hurr sexism" is hardly an argument, when nudes of male actors would be met with all sorts of hypocrisy. Don't try to deny for a second that many, many adult women would love to see nude pictures of Ryan Renalds, etc; illegally obtained or not.

Edit:

OP's 4Chan lines are completely inaccurate.

The Correct 4Chan Response

Spoiler: Click Here

I think a response from many would be this:

 

[chadachada123]

Well, 4chan is crashing and burning. Curious to see how low it will go:

To note, I donated 120 dollars to the TFYC campaign and had been browsing 4chan since 2008. Now that that sellout m00t is banning discussion on GamerGate, I'm here. Good riddance.

Don't forget, if you want a replacement, wholechan (8chan) is available now that halfchan is quickly turning into a heavily-moderated shithole. It has the good parts of Reddit and 4chan combined, because you have the ability to create your own board that you can moderate yourself, while also having the "main" boards that the majority use (in addition to any other created ones that they've also joined).

Best part is that the admin, Hotwheels, is freaking awesome, and communicates with the community and is continuously striving to make the site better.

Plus, anonymity (on some of the boards. They're still in the testing phase). Here and 8chan are my new and only homes, for now.

 

[NateA42]

Didn't CNN establish earlier that 4chan is NOT a hivemind? He is a person! He may have been a Systems Administrator.

 

[Mouser_House]

If I take a screenshot every time some snot-nosed punk makes an empty threat on 4chan and forward it to Gawker Media, do you suppose they'll pay me for it? Oh wait, they only want the threats aimed at famous rich people? Bummer.

Would anyone actually care if 4chan eats itself at this point? It was never supposed to grow to this size. Now it's collapsing under its own weight and the mods have no idea how to deal with it.

 

[Someone Depressing]

4Chan is sort of deplorable in every way ever.

But I learned how to make cheesecake from reading a discussion on there, so it gets a thumbs up from me.

 

[Thorn14]

If I take a screenshot every time some snot-nosed punk makes an empty threat on 4chan and forward it to Gawker Media, do you suppose they'll pay me for it? Oh wait, they only want the threats aimed at famous rich people? Bummer.

Would anyone actually care if 4chan eats itself at this point? It was never supposed to grow to this size. Now it's collapsing under its own weight and the mods have no idea how to deal with it.

Many from 4chan would have no problem if the viewer count plummeted. Lot of people blame 4chan getting popular from chanology being a reason for a cause of decline (cancer) and 4chan becoming less popular and more niche again would benefit the old guard.

 

[Flutterguy]

Some kind of strawman post about how you're better then a website who's claim to fame is a collaboration of its loudest mouths most satirical/asinine posts?

Well that's all the time I have. I must continue worshiping Ebola-chan.

 

[Saetha]

Wait, you expected some actual discussion value at 4chan? Bloody 4chan? What?

I mean, I like the site in the way that you like a dam. It's not going to make for any good conversation, but hey, at least it keeps the bullshit all isolated somewhere far away from me. I'm not sure why anyone would go there for actual discussion, especially if they can't really stand trolling or shitposting.

 

[WickedLordJasper]

Well, there seem to be a few Escapist fans over there: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1411509182528.jpg

 

[OldNewNewOld]

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Either you're new to 4chan or you don't know really much about the culture there.
While each board thinks that /b/ and /pol/ are the cancer, they are tolerated by all boards exactly because of the bad reputation it gives the site. They don't want new, thin skinned people to come to the site. /b/ was basically a double filter. It would filter out all the thin skinned people in the first place by making them not come. The second filter is that it would keep the morons in /b/ and only those who realized 4chan is more than /b/ will leave /b/ as a better human and enjoy the rest of the site.

The hostility towards "newfags" was there to force them to "lurk moar", to learn the board culture (each board has its own culture, it's different and you should never go from one board to another and start posting without lurking for a bit to learn the ropes), to either accept it or to get the fuck out because they aren't welcome. The hostility is a filter to anyone unwelcome, the reward is getting some great time on the site when you learned how to differentiate the shit topics from the real topics.

At least that's how it was back in the days when 4chan wasn't shit and people /v/ did't go out of its way to invite more and more people who don't know anything about the posting culture. Now it's just a mess.
While not all the bad reputation can be said is intentional, a big part of it is or was. I don't know anymore, I just know that /v/ isn't even close to what it was, especially lately with the huge influx of new blood that doesn't understand anything yet want to change everything. For fucks sake, they are getting offended by being called the F word. That's the first indicator of how new they are and that they should lurk moar or leave. But because of the huge influx of new blood, they are really loud and there aren't enough "oldfags" to harass them until they comply and learn the ropes. But the downhill spiral started even before that so I can't really blame the new folks.

 

[VanQ]

4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.

Everyone's talking about jumping ship to 8chan.co

It's a lot like the first schism where a bunch of people fled to 7chan, except they're not pedos defending their right to post illegal jailbait and loli images this time.

By everyone I mean the guys who frequent /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Most of the other boards are pretty much unaffected.

As an /a/ resident, I've also jumped ship after recieving a total of 13 days of bans over the past 14 days for posting stuff that the new mods just decided they didn't like. Like a picture with sideboob on /a/. An anime drawing of a video game character got me banned on /vg/ for not pertaining to video games. And I got banned for 7 days on /v/ for posting in a GG thread.

4chan is no longer the place it once was. It's got new mods that ban completely arbitrarily and randomly and moot is a slave to an army of lawyers now.

 

[josemlopes]

Unless the entire thread was total and awesome satire then its obviously a place for every stereotype for MRA's ever by the looks of it. I read through like 100 short comments ALL of them to this effect. All.

It is most of the time, they pick up the usual nitpick and go up to eleven with the joke. Like Bioware recently includes a lot of homosexual content (it was even made fun of in Dragon Age 2 where you couldnt be nice to anyone or in the next cutscene you would be having sex with that person, a lot of people probably werent planing on having same sex relations in that game but they happened anyway) so they put that joke up to eleve. Add to the fact that every character in Dragon Age Inquisition is trying to look ugly and you have the mix for exageration to take a jokingly stab at the turbo feminist tumblr crowd. In the end its exageration on purpose to get the rise out of people, sometimes even simply baiting with some foundations to end up with a successful bait.

You end up getting used to it and very easily spotting the joke comment and the serious comment.

 

[VanQ]

Wait, you expected some actual discussion value at 4chan? Bloody 4chan? What?

I mean, I like the site in the way that you like a dam. It's not going to make for any good conversation, but hey, at least it keeps the bullshit all isolated somewhere far away from me. I'm not sure why anyone would go there for actual discussion, especially if they can't really stand trolling or shitposting.

I've seen just as much intelligent and insightful conversation on 4chan as I have on any other site over the years. I'd tell you to look for yourself, but frankly the site has become a shell of its former self in the past month.

 

[Vault101]

I may be uninformed...but why exactly should anyone give a single fuck about nude celebrity photos?

a violation of privacy for one

[quote/]They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?[/quote]
they are "fair game" in the same way that somones bike sitting there without a bikelock is "fair game" its so easy to take it but that doesn't make it ok

[quote/]"Hurr sexism" is hardly an argument[/quote]
of coarse it isn't...it isn't even a coherent sentence

[quote/]when nudes of male actors would be met with all sorts of hypocrisy. Don't try to deny for a second that many, many adult women would love to see nude pictures of Ryan Renalds, etc; illegally obtained or not.
[/quote]
wich proves...what exactly?

1. it hasn't happened

2. it would ALSO be an invasion of privacy (and not ok)

3. don't pretend all this happens in a post-sexist vacumn...it doesn't

 

[chadachada123]

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[quote/]They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?

they are "fair game" in the same way that somones bike sitting there without a bikelock is "fair game" its so easy to take it but that doesn't make it ok

[/quote]

That's the part I don't understand.

Once a photo is shared, it's fair game, in the sense that it's impossible to police. It's the same with any nude photos, of which there are tens of thousands all over various sites. To compare it to a bike, physical property, is obviously incompatible.

The part I don't understand is that this WAS the line of thinking when Hilten's video was leaked, or Vanessa Hudgens.

Is it the fact that the former were hacked while the latter were presumably released by the ex? I could understand the logical/legal difference, but I'd disagree that it should be given any fucks just because *a famous person's* privacy was violated and the evidence spread.

I just don't get the "big deal" part. Privacy was invaded. Big whoop. Some member of 4chan threatens to do it further. Big whoop. Sucks for the parties involved, but its spread over the internet is not a big deal.