Hideo Kojima Believes Consoles are Dying

[ThreeKneeNick]

These were my thoughts too when i started thinking about OnLive, after being as outraged as pretty much everyone else when they heard of it. OnLive already has a competitor developing the same service - Gaikai, and if either of them become successful you can pretty much be sure more competitors will come, and they will eventually work out all the difficulties such as availability, technical stuff and pricing.

We might also see a resurgence in PC gaming, since these services will render games using the PC architecture, and releasing a non-cloud version would make sense for covering the largest possible gaming market.

Either that or cloud gaming fails and then... nothing will change.

 

[shadow skill]

Keep in mind that in his home country handhelds have pretty much taken over, and their broadband situation is much better (In terms of speed and availability.) than America for example.

 

[PrototypeC]

Why are people complaining about this? I have a feeling that Hideo Kojima, despite being in some ways a colossal idiot (I'm aiming at you, Raiden), is a visionary. Every gamer should WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. If it doesn't, it'll mean that rather than evolving, gamers will want things to stay the same. Gaming will slow to a near stop.

But if it did? If console-specifics died and take-it-anywhere games took off:
- Fanboys will adapt or die, finding the console wars no longer relevant
- The long wait times while developers adapt and rewrite their code for different systems would disappear
- Physical games wouldn't have to go anywhere; they'd just be usable in any system(we all know fully non-physical online games are a scam)

So basically what I'm saying is... huh, I seem to have strayed a bit from my point. I guess Hideo DID mean those insipid fully non-physical games. Well, I did say he was a visonary AND an idiot. Maybe it's just the translation barrier?

 

[WickedSkin]

Well you can buy a terabyte drive for your PS3 if you want to thanks to Western Digital. Anyway make sure you won't ever have to buy one of those. That OnLive idea is horribly horribly bad for us consumers in the long run. Disgusting really :/

REALLY? I though the whole FAT32 thing stopped you being able to get really big HD's in the PS3? I really need one of these!

Maximum disc volume for FAT32 is 8 TiB. However the maximum filesize is still 4 GiB.

Oh and I think it's just external drives who needs to be formated in FAT32 if you want to use them with your PS3. The PS3 otherwise uses it's own format. So big discs and big files shouldn't be a problem. Though I cannot see why you would need that on a console.

You use to be able to install Linux on a PS3 so its not a far fetched idea.

Sure you could probably do some massive calculations with that processor... but what else? Graphic design and such would still take to long because, from what I hear, they won't let you help the processor with the GPU. The Cell processor is really really impressive, don't get me wrong, but without help with such things it won't do those properly. You can calculate physical collisions like Nasa, but seriously, how many who owns a PS3 does that? You also wouldn't need 1 TiB for that... well not usually for a crazy-person at home.

If you want to use Linux use it on a proper PC or PPC. Since Sony has limited the PS3 so that any OtherOS can't utilize it fully... it will still only be a console with another gimmick.

 

[Aptspire]

To be fair, Hideo Kojima also believes Twilight is a good book.

...He does??? D:
also, I hope HK believes in consoles long enough to bring MGS:R to the 360

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

To be fair, Hideo Kojima also believes Twilight is a good book.

...He does??? D:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/95888-Hideo-Kojima-a-Huge-Fan-of-Twilight-Judging-Fan-Art-Contest

He does.

 

[I Mav I]

Whats the actual benefit of owning a console again ?

So a guy who is all but computer illiterate like me can buy a game, stick it in my console and play it within seconds without any worry that my machine can't handle it or that something will go wrong and I don't know how to fix it.

Its been 15 years since I wrote an autoexec.bat, The machine not handling it thing is because of idiotic markets created by fanboisms. I mean if Sony & MS & Nintendo joined forces they could make a decent machine that could really do something special but because they can convince small penised over compensators that the next thing is slightly faster or this consoles better than that, etc the industry cant standardise.

Back in the day you had Voodoo 1, 2 & 3 that was the measure of graphical power, now theyve pulled numbers out their ass & obfuscated the market so people have to buy new ones because they were told that their old one wasnt good enough or it didnt do a certain function.

A technological brick wall would be excellent right now, & we could fling these 50 itterations of the same damn hardware with stupid little tweaks out a window. (Dont even get me started on these overclockers the shower of gimps)

Another thing to consider is back in the C64 days you could buy cartridge games for your computer

By the way in case anyone mentions price my PC is fantastic and it cost me less than £450 and most of that cost was needless. Now thats alot more than a console but you get ALOT more for it.

Now you may have been talking the basic of the basic of PC gaming but i am not afraid to say that most of this still went over my head, i know how to connect to the internet on a pc, thats it...when i got my first PC back in the day i had Championship Manager, Worms and the Sims on it as well as others, but the moment my PC ground to a halt cos of the sheer amount of games i'd installed and i didn't have enough power for the latest releases without either buying a new PC or upgrading the parts i had is when i gave up on PC gaming...it just isnt my forté...when the console world jumps in power you just buy a new one and continue as you did before, simple...PC gaming is far too stressful for a 15 year long noob like me! lol

 

[raankh]

Hideo says games can never be art. He says consoles are dying. I generally think his opinions are unfounded and annoying.

I recall the 360 selling around 39 million units. The Wii had at least 58 million sells last time I checked. I forgot how many the PS3 had, but still-

It doesn't look like consoles are dying out very soon.

Yeah, a sun shines the brightest before collapsing in itself.

Actually, it shines brightest right after the collapse. KABOOM!

Spoiler: Core Collapse Supernova Outshines Host Galaxy

 

[Plurralbles]

once internet technology is powerful and quick enough and secure eough, then yes, maybe.

But until then, I'll keep supporting Consoles and PC.

 

[aaronmcc]

hey i can respect the man as much any ps fanboy, (which i'm not), but he might as well live on the moon. he's more batty than a bat cave.

 

[Abedeus]

Hideo says games can never be art. He says consoles are dying. I generally think his opinions are unfounded and annoying.

I recall the 360 selling around 39 million units. The Wii had at least 58 million sells last time I checked. I forgot how many the PS3 had, but still-

It doesn't look like consoles are dying out very soon.

Yeah, a sun shines the brightest before collapsing in itself.

Actually, it shines brightest right after the collapse. KABOOM!

Spoiler: Core Collapse Supernova Outshines Host Galaxy

...Okay, then it's "the biggest" before collapsing.

It expands, expands, then collapses at the highest point.

 

[johnman]

Now you may have been talking the basic of the basic of PC gaming but i am not afraid to say that most of this still went over my head, i know how to connect to the internet on a pc, thats it...when i got my first PC back in the day i had Championship Manager, Worms and the Sims on it as well as others, but the moment my PC ground to a halt cos of the sheer amount of games i'd installed and i didn't have enough power for the latest releases without either buying a new PC or upgrading the parts i had is when i gave up on PC gaming...it just isnt my forté...when the console world jumps in power you just buy a new one and continue as you did before, simple...PC gaming is far too stressful for a 15 year long noob like me! lol

Pc gaming came naturally to me. Its all we had in the house and I grew up I learned more and more about them, to such an extent that when I did work experiance as a computer technicain they were talking about hiring me on the second day.

 

[James Raynor]

Well when you keep making video games that are more like watching a movie then playing a game, that kind of happens.

 

[GamingAwesome1]

Take whatever the man says with a pinch of salt. This is the guy who appears at the top of the article riding a duck

 

[acosn]

I don't think that consoles will die, but I most certainly think we're on the cusp of something new. At a fundamental level we can't physically push consoles any further than we have with the gap in between the previous generation and the one we're in. Just look at the PS3- completely new(ish) technology, an absurd price tag and no one bought it. The days where merely pushing new technology as the selling point are dying. The industry, or which ever company tried to "one up" Sony on it's PS3 in terms of new technology would probably die.

What's more your gaming console is become more and more effectively just a computer. You could pop open your xbox, and spot out the graphics card, the processor, the mother board, the CD-ROM, and so on. I wouldn't be surprised if down the line mice and keyboards became standard peripherals for consoles. Anymore the only thing setting apart the Xbox 360 and a proper PC is the operating system.

no. cant happen. look at how close the ps3 is to the computer and look at the PRICETAG. its over the cost of a PC. if consoles try to be anymore of a PC, no one will buy it because its cheaper to buy an actual PC. consoles have been pushed as far as they can financially. its either:

A. pull a George Lucas, disappear for a couple years then return.
B. die completely.
C. return to its roots and lose all progress since the PS2.

You really seem to have misunderstood my post altogether.

And I really don't see where you get the idea that the price tag would be what makes it more of a PC than a proper console- think about how much a PS3 cost at it's onset. Now realize that PC gamer regularly checks on the price for the cheapest entry leveling gaming rig, and usually has the price hanging from 450 bucks to 500 bucks. Now realize that a console is effective a computer now, that never has it's specs change. It'll get cheaper to make- that's just how it works.

But no, what I was eluding more to was that consoles would become more like PC's in function than anything else. We already have internet access as a core function anymore, web browsing and so on. Consoles can play music, and movies. Really there's only a hand full of things that a PC can do that a console inherently can't. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Steam-like application showing up eventually that wasn't merely like the Wii's Virtual console where it's exclusively old games or XBox live's up where it's mostly small flash-esque games.