Holy crap, Frozen suuuuuucks.

[Therumancer]

I finally got around to watching Frozen, and I am completely stunned at how bad it is compared to how good it was hyped up to be. I will be going into complete spoilers so if you haven't seen it, and (for some reason) still want to, GET OUT!

Probably my biggest gripe with this movie is Elsa and her powers, they just make no sense at all. So for all her life, she is struggling to control her power and is completely unable to. The only way she can stop herself from randomly spurting out bursts of frost is to cover her hands with ordinary gloves. This doesn't really make sense as at one point she freezes a lake by stepping on it even though she isn't barefoot, but whatever. The important thing is that she has no control over her power, it just does whatever the heck it wants... That is until she climbs the mountain. Then she has absolute control over her power, she can create intricately designed staircases, floors, and chandeliers. She has so much control that she completely spears an attacking soldier to the wall using icicles without injuring him! If that doesn't require the keenest control over your power I don't know what does. And yet, even though she has such fine control, she is still completely unable to stop herself from somehow freezing the world. How does this even work? Why is she even affecting the city when before now she's needed to be in contact with the things that she freezes. She is so insanely powerful that she is basically an ice god, who can freeze the entire world in an instant. And she was just born like this? Just randomly her parents popped out an ice god? And even though she is an ice god with complete control over her power, she still has absolutely no control over her power. It just doesn't make sense and is never explained.

More than that, why wasn't Elsa ever sent to someone who could teach her to use her powers? The trolls obviously knew a lot about such things, why didn't she study with them? They said it was only going to get worse, but nobody ever thought to take the advice of the mystical wizard creatures that instantly cured the magic ice that Anna got in her eye? On that note, I also thought it was strange that ice to the head was an instant KO for Anna, but the far more deadly ice to the heart took forever to kick in. She's completely fine for like 15 minutes, and then after the song --boom-- she's dying. And the way they fix her blizzard? Love. Ugh, I'm going to puke. This is so cliche and stupid, yeah forget diligent training and self-control, you just need to love someone. This doesn't even make any sense anyway. Why did she confine herself to her room for all those years if not for love of her sister? Obviously she didn't want to hurt Anna again because she loved her.

Now onto my second biggest complaint: Hans. This guy. Like what the heck? For the whole movie he is characterized to be caring, kind, noble, and honorable, everything that a prince should be. Then completely out of nowhere he's suddenly the biggest sociopathic jerk who ever lived. Whatever happened to that old storytelling rule "show, don't tell"? For the whole movie we are shown that he is caring to Anna, and shares interests with her, while also having great chemistry. We are shown that he cares for the people under his rule, personally handing out blankets in the cold and maintaining order. The very second Anna's horse comes back without her he leads a charge into the frozen wasteland to find her. When he meets resistance at the ice palace he does battle with a freaking ice giant, risking life and limb in the hope of rescuing Anna and saving his people. Then when the dukes soldiers are about to kill Elsa, he interferes respecting Anna's love for her sister who is clearly causing a great catastrophe to befall the land. What proof do we have for him being a sociopath? We are simply told that he was just a manipulating douchebag that has no love whatsoever for Anna and just wants power. What? His character just pulls a complete 180. This guy's idea of an easy power grab involved fighting ice giants? Not to mention that he has to be one of the greatest actors ever to pull this off. From this point on he is simply the bad guy and loses all redeeming qualities.

A lot of people say that this movie turns the "love at first sight" trope on its head, but I don't think that's true at all. Hans and Anna's dating montage was far too good at giving the impression that their love was blooming and, personally, the montage made it seem like a fair deal of time had passed. I know it was supposed to be one night, but the montage doesn't give that impression. Also, it's implied that Kristoff hasn't met too many girls, living in the woods by himself, so Anna is probably the first girl he's gotten to know. How is that not the same as Hans and Anna's "love at first sight" or worse, since he's pretty much falling for the first girl he meets. The trolls also try to set them up, simply because she's the first girl he's brought home. Not to mention his whole diatribe against her marrying a guy she's only known a day was way out of line and just reeked of jealousy. It's not like Kristoff knew Anna for longer either. She knew both guys for about a day before deciding she was in love with them. No this movie completely failed at averting the trope, having two loves at first sight isn't really a whole lot more sophisticated that only having one. At least when there is only one, there is some evidence of their devotion. Basically once Kristoff came in as the new love interest the movie didn't know what to do with the old one of Hans and simply made him evil to get rid of him.

Speaking of Anna, I didn't really like her as a character. She was such a giddy moron that I could hardly stand her. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she fell off a balcony and broke her neck on the pavement, the way she was always carelessly dancing around at great heights. She nearly did this before Hans' horse caught her. Also there was that time she cut the supporting rope causing them to fall hundreds of feet, only to emerge completely unharmed, cause "there was snow at the bottom." Yeah, given how popular this movie is I wonder how long it will be until a kid breaks their legs jumping off the roof into a snow pile. Olaf, the brainless snowman was pretty annoying too, and I simply didn't find him to be at all funny.

Finally, the music. I just didn't like it, and I'm a person that likes musicals. There was way too much of it, it was like the movie couldn't go two minutes without breaking into another terrible song for no reason near the beginning. The songs themselves sounded like the same garbage that is heard on the radio all the time and completely lacked the magic of songs from other Disney movies such as The Little Mermaid. Also that Vuelie song at the beginning and end sounded a lot like Yub Nub from Star Wars to me. The songs never seemed to flow naturally in the story and were simply there because Disney movies have songs so they needed to have songs in the movie.

Overall, the story just felt mechanical and never gave enough depth to the characters or plot to make it feel real. I will admit that it was beautifully animated, but what isn't these days?

Holy wall of text, Batman! This got kind of long, didn't it? Anyway, what do you think? Am I right, or do you think that Frozen was actually an excellent well written film?

Spoilers:

The answer to your question is very similar: Liberal politics. This movie was pretty much pandering (intentional or otherwise) to deep left wing sentiments, hence it's praise despite being one of Disney's weaker movies over all.

The thing is that "Frozen" subverts the usual Disney tropes by pretty much mocking things like "love at first sight", having Prince Charming be an exploitive sociopath, and putting all of the power and agency in the hands of female characters. What's more Elsa doesn't wind up hitching herself to any male characters nor is she really rescued by one. What's more some reading into the body language (I believe Movie Bob has done this as well) have commented that Elsa might very well be Disney's "Lesbian Princess" given some of the burlesque inspired dance moves and such.

The basic idea here is that young girls will pretty much embrace any princess they are given, the success of Disney movies at this point being pretty much a given. Elsa being such a "good liberal icon" in the movie being more feminist in theme and possibly a lesbian is seen as a positive thing in indoctrinating them away from the "offensive Disney stereotype" of men saving or completing women, or women pretty much biding their time waiting for a guy to fall in love with, etc...

To be honest there isn't anything really wrong with a lot of this, though to be honest I find nothing wrong with traditional portrayals. It's just written like crap and is pretty much designed to beat you over the head with "oh look, at how edgy and liberal we're being, look at how in line we are with hipster politics" without really developing the story or it's concepts. We've mocked love at first sight, given the women primary agency, and made what would normally be the hero who saves the day into a first order douchebag, dropped some very subtle lesbian hints for those that want to read into them... but neglected everything else.

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That said I get the impression that Elsa can do whatever she wants with Ice when she concentrates, and the thing she is focusing on happens, but due to her subconscious the power leaks and does whatever it's going to do. The gloves probably work by being a psychological focus, not because the clothing blocks her powers, but because he mind views them as doing so which keeps her subconscious under control. Throughout sci-fi and fantasy there have been similar things. That said the movie is not very explicit in setting up it's concepts, just beating you over the head with it's "messages" which was the intent of the film more than the story.

That said if they do make a sequel as they have been threatening I've been joking that they should get the rights from Ralph Bakshi and Frank Frazetta's estate to rip off "Fire and Ice" let Elsa go full villain and fill the role of "Nekron" maybe even taking the name. If we're going to go with dumb ideas it would be worth it just to see her sister pump iron and abuse 'roids to get a proper Frazetta build for the final battle... oh yeah and then they can call Olaf's "story arc" foreshadowing when he's the one to open the volcano at the end.

 

[SNCommand]

I've had no interest to see Frozen, and will likely never have one, so it subverts usual Disney tropes, that's fine and all, but other fairy tale movies have been subverting Disney tropes for the last few decades

Besides its subversion it looks like an unimpressive and shallow movie, I'll pass and let other people enjoy it as much as they want

 

[zumbledum]

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Holy wall of text, Batman! This got kind of long, didn't it? Anyway, what do you think? Am I right, or do you think that Frozen was actually an excellent well written film?

well i think your over thinking the mechanics a bit its a disney film for kids not not cutting edge art house sci fi. but i think the idea with the powers was it builds up and needs a release, she always had control of it when she chose to use it its just when she tried to bottle it up and deny it then it leaked out, i think its more a metaphor for denying your true self rather than a water tight intellectual exercise.

The prince , well he was always a lying cock sucker, the bad men dont always have hoofs and carry pitchforks, i certainly felt he was slimey and off before the reveal not sure what more they should of done really.

i thought it was good myself i mean given its a disney animated kids film but it got massively over hyped. havent felt the need to watch it a second time but was a pleasant hour and half or whatever.

 

[mecegirl]

Finally, the music. I just didn't like it, and I'm a person that likes musicals. There was way too much of it, it was like the movie couldn't go two minutes without breaking into another terrible song for no reason near the beginning. The songs themselves sounded like the same garbage that is heard on the radio all the time and completely lacked the magic of songs from other Disney movies such as The Little Mermaid. Also that Vuelie song at the beginning and end sounded a lot like Yub Nub from Star Wars to me. The songs never seemed to flow naturally in the story and were simply there because Disney movies have songs so they needed to have songs in the movie.

Yes. I agree with most of your points, but this one is incredibly true. I love musicals. I love musical movies. Yet, this was the first film ever to make me go "Oh god, this is going to be a musical, isn't it?" after the first half hour or so was nothing but SUNG EXPOSITION. The songs just don't mesh very well with the plot, nor do they drive it forward (like any musical's songs should, and Disney's usually do) - they just repeat what has already been established.

The Songs being very weak (yes, that includes Let It Go) didn't help. What makes this worse is that I actually like Idina Menzel as a singer - she was awesome in the concert version of Chess and displays her talent here as well - but she just wasn't given very good material to work with.

Overall, the movie was disappointing, especially given all the hype it received. Of all animation movies I watched lately, it was by far the weakest. Not really bad, mind you, just utterly forgettable and no real step forward in terms of musicals, animation or musical movies.

Oh, also the love plot twist: yeah, seemed clever at first, but was subverted WAY too obviously. There was far more room for nuance and proper conflict here.

Agreeing with all of this, as well as the op's main points.

I wasn't impressed with Frozen, and its so weird to see the change in tone between Frozen and Tangled. Tangled, even The Princess and the Frog impressed me more. With Frozen they didn't seem to trust their audience at all and felt the need to either sing explanations, or have the damn snowman state the obvious. Kids seemed to understand older Disney movies just fine without so much exposition, so why add so much now?

 

[Dagda Mor]

But yeah, it sucked and people need to get over it... I swear the next person to sing that song at me... I'll start swinging!

I'm just biding my time until Tangled becomes popular again. Viva la Tangled!

Dude, you've just gotta let it go.

OT: Tangled sucked.

 

[Entitled]

Probably my biggest gripe with this movie is Elsa and her powers, they just make no sense at all.

As opposed to what? Realistic, sensible ice magic powers?

This sounds a lot like a "real vampires don't sparkle!" argument. Your complaint seems to be that the ice magic doesn't follow the recent portrayal of superpower tropes with an origin story, a specific degree of control based on mental concentration, and "training".

The ice powers are a reflection of Else's inner emotions, and that's all there is to it. Also, "ice to the head" and "ice to the heart" are clearly not just blasts of freezing water, but "curses", given that the former's cure required influencing the mind, and the latter's effects strenghtened over time rather than melting from warmth. When "head" and "heart" are magical concepts representing personhood, you can't expect them to act like jars of water in terms of their reaction to cold.

. And the way they fix her blizzard? Love. Ugh, I'm going to puke. This is so cliche and stupid

You should have changed your MLP avatar before typing this. Would have been less hypocritical.

For the whole movie we are shown that he is caring to Anna, and shares interests with her, while also having great chemistry. We are shown that he cares for the people under his rule, personally handing out blankets in the cold and maintaining order.

They are NOT under his rule. He is not a prince of the land, he is a random foreigner whom Anna put in a trusted position and who is already using that to threaten others who would make a power play.

Hans and Anna's dating montage was far too good at giving the impression that their love was blooming

Seriously. Listen to the lyrics.

Anna: All my life has been a series of doors in my face
And then suddenly I bumped into you

Hans: I was thinking the same thing! 'Cause like
I've been searching my whole life to find my own place
And maybe it's the party talking or the chocolate fondue

Anna: But with you
Hans: But with you

Hans: I found my place
Anna: I see your face

Both: And it's nothing like I've ever known before....
Love is an open door
Love is an open door
Love is an open door.

Anna: With you
Hans: With you
Anna: With you
Hans: With you

Both: Love is an open door

Hans: I mean it's crazy
Anna: What?

Hans: We finish each other's
Anna: Sandwiches

Hans: That's what I was gonna say!

...
etc.

The only solo lines that Hans has in the song, are either singing in parallel with Anna's love song, but about the PLACE that he found, or blatantly pandering to Anna's hope that they have a lot in common. It's a manufactured love song, where Anna is singing and Hans is playing catch-up.

it's implied that Kristoff hasn't met too many girls, living in the woods by himself, so Anna is probably the first girl he's gotten to know. How is that not the same as Hans and Anna's "love at first sight" or worse, since he's pretty much falling for the first girl he meets.

The trolls also try to set them up, simply because she's the first girl he's brought home. Not to mention his whole diatribe against her marrying a guy she's only known a day was way out of line and just reeked of jealousy. It's not like Kristoff knew Anna for longer either. She knew both guys for about a day before deciding she was in love with them. No this movie completely failed at averting the trope, having two loves at first sight isn't really a whole lot more sophisticated that only having one.[/quote]

Except that Kristoff and Anna never made any claims about True Love at first sight. They spent an intense adventure together, and afterwards they are a blossoming relationship. THEY ARE NOT GETTING MARRIED BASED ON THAT ALONE.

There is nothing wrong with kissing a guy you met in the past few days, the problem is with seeing too much into a few cute gestures and throwing away your life for it.

 

[FPLOON]

I agree with you about the songs, I really didn't understand why people were so head over heels with them. Most of them didn't make an impact on me at all, "Let it Go" included. It baffles me why that song is so popular - comparing to the average Disney song, I wouldn't even put it in a top ten, and that was before I got so completely sick of hearing it everywhere. The only one I really, really liked was the ice-cutters song at the start, since it was very intense and atmospheric (though for whatever reason that seems to be the song that people don't like as much).

Yeah... The Frozen Heart, the song you're referring to, is such an underrated song, in my opinion, and it was the only song I enjoyed a lot more than I thought I was going to out of the whole movie... even to the point of wanting that song to be longer or something to that effect...

OT: Uh... OP? In referenced to Hans, did you really think his and Anna's little duet together proved that they were really finishing each other's sandwiches? I mean, REALLY finishing each other's sandwiches?

Anyway, I thought Frozen was an okay movie in general... The only things I didn't like were the parents, the trolls (and their fucking song), and how the best song in the movie, for me, is overshadowed by a song that, to its credit, does kinda work well with the movie itself, when you're watching the movie from start to finish, that is... or, at least, until Let It Go ends, I guess...

Other than that, Tangled was better and not because Frozen didn't have it's own version of "The Smolder" on hand...

I had a lot more fun with How to Train Your Dragon 2.

Well, some critics did say that HTTYD2 was "[more] fun than Frozen"... Or, at least, that's what the TV promos kept saying at the time...

 

[Drathnoxis]

They are NOT under his rule. He is not a prince of the land, he is a random foreigner whom Anna put in a trusted position and who is already using that to threaten others who would make a power play.

Okay, maybe "rule" was the wrong word, but he was placed in charge and he takes good care of the people under him. And I fail to see how protecting Anna's kingdom from usurpers who would prey on the chaos is a bad thing.

The only solo lines that Hans has in the song, are either singing in parallel with Anna's love song, but about the PLACE that he found, or blatantly pandering to Anna's hope that they have a lot in common. It's a manufactured love song, where Anna is singing and Hans is playing catch-up.

I'm sure that's what they were intending, but 'place' could also mean 'place with her' and is pretty poor foreshadowing, especially combined with this scene:
There is no way that dreamy smile is him thinking he's found a kingdom to take over. There is no way to combine a sigh like that with covetous intentions.

You should have changed your MLP avatar before typing this. Would have been less hypocritical.

Maybe, but I haven't thought MLP was a good show since the first season, and I would say that the over reliance on love as the solution for everything is nearly as bad as in Frozen. It's only slightly better as it's clearly the main focus of the show, I mean, it's in the title.

 

[chocolate pickles]

I do find it weird how adults obsess over movies made for tiny children, and it is a little discouraging.

I haven't seen much of Frozen, but to me it's teh same Disney-schlock they've made since the fucking 30's, not bad enough to get angry about, just boring, uninsprired, unoriginal, silly, stupid and pointless. It is very strange if you sit down to watch it above the age of 10 though, that is weird.

'Discouraging' what, exactly? There's nothing inherently wrong with adults like things made for kids.

Haven't actually watched all of Frozen yet, but I think a lot of your points are valid, especially regarding plot and Hans' 180 personality twist. Definitely wasn't the finest example of Disney plot writing.

 

[Spider RedNight]

. And the way they fix her blizzard? Love. Ugh, I'm going to puke. This is so cliche and stupid

You should have changed your MLP avatar before typing this. Would have been less hypocritical.

I agree with everything you said but especially this. I don't really put a lot of thought into someone tearing down a Disney movie when their icon is MLP xD

OT: I'll admit the movie has its flaws as does EVERY OTHER MOVIE EVER but in general, I liked it. I thought it was better and less pop-y than Tangled and I could get behind the general theme in Frozen - I have a younger sister myself and I can draw a lot of parallels between Anna and Elsa and my sister and myself.

One thing I will mention bothers me though IS the extent of Elsa's powers. I get it, ice-themed everything but... where does it end? It's kind of exaggerated that she can instantly unfreeze everything in like a matter of seconds but actually creating life? That's not ice-based. Neither is the ability to create clothes and ice skates and such.

And I'll admit, I don't FULLY understand why they picked Idina Menzel other than the whole "Let it Go is basically the Disney Princess equivalent of Defying Gravity" but I found her to be rather distracting.

As for all the other stuff mentioned, there are some points but they tend to get lost in the tone of your argument which sounds less point-driven and more "I don't like this over hyped movie so I'm gonna ***** about it".


Buuuuut that's just me. Yeah, it's over-rated a bit but it's not "the worst movie ever ugh I hate it so much" when there's movies like FoodFight and Bee Movie that still exist (I get some people like Bee Movie but I reeeeeally didn't)

 

[Someone Depressing]

I thought that the movie was boring and nonsensical, but that it could still redeem itself from with a strong ending.

"oooh nooo only love will cure her of being stabbed in the chest with the literal manifestation of hypothermia what will we doooo? what do you mean that this was already a plot point before the story already began and was easily concluded with conflict or difficulty? ooh no that wont work because shut up OH NO ANNA DONT DIE"

That's pretty much when this movie went from "post-Kricfalusi Ren and Stimpy" to "the reason why the west should just give in and watch anime until their bones are bleached and flesh rotten because this is why we can't have good things".

Aside from the plot, the music was meaningless and catchy to gain the attention of children who are used to the debased musical filth we call "pop", the animation gained inspiration from The Swing without understanding what made that painting so beautiful and just came off as dull, and even Mulan or Atlantis's art style would have been much better...

And just to hammer in the point that this movie is somehow both toothless and offensive at the same time (aside from Anna not being a black transgender furry enthusiast, of course!) is that 90% of the female of the female character are identical... even from Tangled.

Spoiler: Because making one of them not the literal embodiment of conventional attractiveness would just be far too hard

Identical. They are literally fucking identical. High cheekbones, smooth baby cheeks, along with a generally baby-like face, almost no waist, medium sized thighs, tiny calves, small feet, narrow shoulders, twig-thin.

For comparison, let's use Nani from Lilo and Stitch, my favourite Disney movie of the 2000's.

She had a big nose, was somewhat butch, look at those amazing legs, had small breasts, and could probably beat up most men. And yet the reason why I like her so much is that she's human. In other words, she could be real. She gave much more humanity to her relationship with Lilo and the plot at large, and her appearance fit this.

Now look back up at Anna, Elsa, and Rapu-what's-her-name. They are dolls. Creepy dolls with massive eyes and perfect hourglass figures, along with wooden expressions and glassy bishoujo faces just to complement and abhorrent creepiness of their very existence. Whoever designed them should be thrown into a pit full of sewage and rabid lions. Unless they had face blindness and based them on the same photograph, in which case they probably shouldn't be animators.

 

[JoJo]

Buuuuut that's just me. Yeah, it's over-rated a bit but it's not "the worst movie ever ugh I hate it so much" when there's movies like FoodFight and Bee Movie that still exist (I get some people like Bee Movie but I reeeeeally didn't)

Yeah, anyone making out that Frozen is terrible should go see a genuinely mediocre kids' movie like Space Chimps or Free Birds, Frozen won't look quite so bad then heh. The film isn't perfect but it clearly wasn't shoved out of the door with minimal effort, which is more than I can say for a lot of animated movies.

 

[Dizchu]

Frozen is a decent film. The worst thing about it is that the least creative, most pathetic excuse for a song was the one that "caught on" and now every kid is singing it.

Frozen had some great songs and my faith in humanity is tainted by the fact that four-chord abominations still top the charts. OTHER CHORD PROGRESSIONS EXIST GOD DAMMIT.

Yeah, "Let it Go" is the songwriting equivalent of using a stencil. I hate it with every particle that makes up my anatomy.

 

[Fulbert]

Probably my biggest gripe with this movie is Elsa and her powers, they just make no sense at all. So for all her life, she is struggling to control her power and is completely unable to. The only way she can stop herself from randomly spurting out bursts of frost is to cover her hands with ordinary gloves. This doesn't really make sense as at one point she freezes a lake by stepping on it even though she isn't barefoot, but whatever. The important thing is that she has no control over her power, it just does whatever the heck it wants... That is until she climbs the mountain. Then she has absolute control over her power, she can create intricately designed staircases, floors, and chandeliers. She has so much control that she completely spears an attacking soldier to the wall using icicles without injuring him! If that doesn't require the keenest control over your power I don't know what does. And yet, even though she has such fine control, she is still completely unable to stop herself from somehow freezing the world. How does this even work? Why is she even affecting the city when before now she's needed to be in contact with the things that she freezes. She is so insanely powerful that she is basically an ice god, who can freeze the entire world in an instant. And she was just born like this? Just randomly her parents popped out an ice god? And even though she is an ice god with complete control over her power, she still has absolutely no control over her power. It just doesn't make sense and is never explained.

More than that, why wasn't Elsa ever sent to someone who could teach her to use her powers? The trolls obviously knew a lot about such things, why didn't she study with them? They said it was only going to get worse, but nobody ever thought to take the advice of the mystical wizard creatures that instantly cured the magic ice that Anna got in her eye? On that note, I also thought it was strange that ice to the head was an instant KO for Anna, but the far more deadly ice to the heart took forever to kick in. She's completely fine for like 15 minutes, and then after the song --boom-- she's dying. And the way they fix her blizzard? Love. Ugh, I'm going to puke. This is so cliche and stupid, yeah forget diligent training and self-control, you just need to love someone. This doesn't even make any sense anyway. Why did she confine herself to her room for all those years if not for love of her sister? Obviously she didn't want to hurt Anna again because she loved her.

She wasn't trying and failing to control her powers, but to repress them. With the memory of having hurt a loved one, and taught by her parents "to control it, not show it", she just tried to suppress her powers, and all those incidents were a kind of Freudian slips, her subconscious trying to find its way outside. When she accepted herself and her powers, she quickly found she could do all sorts of amazing stuff with them. That's one lesson to take away from the film.

Why didn't her parents try to teach her to control and utilize her powers, why did they isolate her from the world and her sister and forced her to fight herself? Perhaps that was a case of bad parenting on their part. They loved her and wanted her to be happy, and they saw her powers as some sort of a problem she had that hey had to help her overcome.

Were they right in what they did to her? Were they wrong? You might say they could've handled the situation better. But remember, they died before they could really teach her to learn and accept herself, which left her misguided and scared and turned her into a frigid recluse that she ended up as. Anyway, I don't think that's bad storytelling - quite on the contrary, that a depiction of a very topical problem without trying to villify anyone. I like that.

 

[ninja51]

I agree entirely, Frozen sucks donkey dick, especially in comparison to Tangled

 

[Fulbert]

A thing that always bothered me, if Elsa's powers alludes to being Gay (like a lot of people are saying) is her accidently hurting Anna equivelant to her sexual assaulting her in the real world?

I think that's too literal an interpretation. That incident is just a plot device that gave Elsa a legitimate reason to be afraid of her powers. A sort of a childhood trauma that left a mark in her mind for years to come. I don't think interpreting it as sexual assault would be a good idea.