How do you explain bisexuals?

[norwegian-guy]

Pretty much the same position as a homosexual. Only atracted to both genders.
It's not a choice. And most likely people become bisexual just like people become homosexual: As a foster, in the womb. (There are some other theories, but this is the one I find is the most likely.)

 

[Davey Woo]

Pretty indecisive is how I'd describe them.
I don't know really I don't really understand why anyone would be attracted to people of the same sex, but I don't have anything against those that are.

 

[Woodsey]

Bisexuals are people who are attracted to both genders.

I'm not really sure why people on this website seem to have such a difficult time wrapping their heads around that, or why there's such a fascination for it.

Bi-sexual - Someone who is SEXUALLY attracted to both sexes.

And you can't be fooled into BEING gay, only into gay acts.

I have slain this thread.

This guy hit it right on the head. It's a sexual attraction to both sexes, determined at birth just like every other sexual preference.

This has never been proven. I have a friend who was not gay, but after years of being made fun of for his lisp, he was societally pressured into becoming his image. Also, I was bi but I don't even think about men that way anymore.

So your friend is now ignoring his real sexuality because people took the piss out of his speech impediment?

Of course.

 

[masticina]

Labels are not meaningless, arbitrary, or limited. The only thing limiting such things would be a small functional vocabulary, or a lack of understanding.

And the scenario you speak of would be labeled 'Hetero with an Exception.'

Oh really labels are not limited? I mean I get it that human mind and human existance is based upon subjective insights. Hell the fact that he religion of a person usually is the one of the parents/society.. is one of those causal factors.

I agree that we are STUCK with labelling! We as humanity haven't yet breached through another level another method another way of thinking. Even those who study in the path of understanding these matters.. even they are bound the words and the limitations of words. Even if they understand them!

So what I see a new label "Hetero with an exception" what a delight. A new label..

Sexuality is well big part of our survival has huge effects on how our brains are wired! Unbeknownst to our conscience our body is filtering out information. Who is a decent mate who is NOT a decent mate. When we look at someone we automatically judge their fertility, the possible mating match. Now that would go against homosexuality EXCEPT that happens in nature and us.. so it is natural. Not to mention I think that we should be treated like individuals and everybody has their own personal sexuality.

Yes there are things like "Well I like guys" or "Well I like girls" and "Guys.. well no not sexually" and "Girls I am just not attracted to them sexually". The basic labels are good starting grounds and within our limited understand probably as good as we can do for now. But it is obviously there is more to sexuality then just these basic labels. Hell we haven't even gotten in preferences..

 

[Nanaki316]

Bi-sexual - Someone who is SEXUALLY attracted to both sexes.

And you can't be fooled into BEING gay, only into gay acts.

I have slain this thread.

Sorry to quote you for the millionth time but yeah that's pretty much it.

I'm bisexual, I find both women and men attractive. However I couldn't imagine spending my life with a woman as I'm pretty tied down living with my partner and our kids.
I've had girlfriends though, and I'm still the kinda woman who will compare hot girls with him.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Bisexuals are people who are attracted to both genders.

I'm not really sure why people on this website seem to have such a difficult time wrapping their heads around that, or why there's such a fascination for it.

They're all closet cases, trying to figure out their feelings.

Thats my theory, anyway. But I always assume everyone I know is sleeping with everyone else I know, so I may not be a good source on this.

Why do I do that, you ask?

It makes life so much more interesting when everything around you is a giant soup opera.

 

[Gigano]

"Those who have twice the options I do when it comes to choice of potential romance options".

...Actually, I don't really care about "explaining" them; they do not affect my life adversely in any way, nor give rise to any general ethical considerations whatsoever. So I'll happily leave explaining it to the sociological, psychological, and biological experts who have a general professional interest in and basis for an informed opinion on the subject.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Bi-sexual - Someone who is SEXUALLY attracted to both sexes.

And you can't be fooled into BEING gay, only into gay acts.

I have slain this thread.

Sorry to quote you for the millionth time but yeah that's pretty much it.

I'm bisexual, I find both women and men attractive. However I couldn't imagine spending my life with a woman as I'm pretty tied down living with my partner and our kids.
I've had girlfriends though, and I'm still the kinda woman who will compare hot girls with him.

No problem. It just solidifies my role as King of this thread (HAHAHAHA!)

SNIP

Okay, you're getting into human nature, and how we 'can't define everyone.'

Guess what: we can. It merely would take thousands of labels to do so (And that would be awkward as hell).

We're talking about sexuality here, not the entirety of the human condition. And despite your claim that we 'all have our own sexualities,' they all fall pretty nicely into the terms and labels we have created.

The rest of your post... is... well, beyond the scope of what this thread is about, and beyond my capabilities of typing on a NetBook keyboard.

 

[DracoSuave]

I try not to weigh in on the 'biological' or 'genetic' debate on bisexuality (or homosexuality) for that matter. It's a dangerous slope there. The genetic debate especially. Homosexuality is not transmitted geneticly because homosexualily does not breed... so you enter in the argument that it's a mutation. That then introduces the argument that it is therefore a genetic disease.... do you see how this can be bad? Plus, science hasn't come to any solid theories about this yet. It's hard to claim a scientific result like 'biological' or 'genetic' when science hasn't.

I instead actually embrace the moral argument. Is homosexuality or bisexuality a moral choice? Well... if it is, then it's a personal moral choice. Does it cause harm to others? Does society hurt because of it? Well... in a society pursuing ZPG, then no it does not. So, as a personal moral choice without any societal harm... how is it any of my business to decide someone else's morals for them? Personal moral choices are just that: Personal. It is not the business of a secular society to decide people's morality for them. It's job is to enforce rules that when broken are negative to society. Murder? Rape? Theft? Anti-social behavior, and should be curtailed. Having sex with your own gender? Should not be society's concern.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

 

[masticina]

SNIP

Okay, you're getting into human nature, and how we 'can't define everyone.'

Guess what: we can. It merely would take thousands of labels to do so (And that would be awkward as hell).

We're talking about sexuality here, not the entirety of the human condition. And despite your claim that we 'all have our own sexualities,' they all fall pretty nicely into the terms and labels we have created.

The rest of your post... is... well, beyond the scope of what this thread is about, and beyond my capabilities of typing on a NetBook keyboard.[/quote]

Oh sure in that way you are right.. it would be very very ackward. Instead of a digital system [You can raise the numbers of bits but it stays digital] might I suggest an analogue system?

 

[DefunctTheory]

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

Sex changes deal in the physical and chemical aspects of the body.

For example... male to female changers take large doses of estrogen (Among other things) to alter the chemical balances in their bodies. Typically, this is most noticeable in voice pitch, the growth of breast, smoother skin, and the smoothing of some facial features.

Next, the adams apple is shaved off. Breast implants can also be used if estrogen has not induced a large enough bosom (Or if s/he wants to be a stripper).

Finally, the penis is NOT cut off... it is reshaped. The nerve clusters of the penis are moved into the hole the doctor drilled (not sure on the specifics there), so that sex still offers feeling. These surgeries can be more convincing than I'd like to believe.

Finally, numerous other elective surgeries can be performed, such as bone shaving in the hands and feet to give a more feminine appearance.

EDIT: I realize you knew most of this, but you seemed vague. I thought a more specific approach could help you understand.

EDIT2: Also, realize that Doctors are required by law to perform EXTENSIVE mental evaluations before performing any of these steps. From my understanding, thousands of people are denied surgery a year for this reason.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

Sex changes deal in the physical and chemical aspects of the body.

For example... male to female changers take large doses of estrogen (Among other things) to alter the chemical balances in their bodies. Typically, this is most noticeable in voice pitch, the growth of breast, smoother skin, and the smoothing of some facial features.

Next, the adams apple is shaved off. Breast implants can also be used if estrogen has not induced a large enough bosom (Or if s/he wants to be a stripper).

Finally, the penis is NOT cut off... it is reshaped. The nerve clusters of the penis are moved into the hole the doctor drilled (not sure on the specifics there), so that sex still offers feeling. These surgeries can be more convincing than I'd like to believe.

Finally, numerous other elective surgeries can be performed, such as bone shaving in the hands and feet to give a more feminine appearance.

EDIT: I realize you knew most of this, but you seemed vague. I thought a more specific approach could help you understand.

EDIT2: Also, realize that Doctors are required by law to perform EXTENSIVE mental evaluations before performing any of these steps. From my understanding, thousands of people are denied surgery a year for this reason.

Yes yes, I was aware of all that... well I was unaware of the penis reshaping thing, not that I was overly concerned. Anyway that still doesn't cover the fact that you'd still be lugging around a Y-chromosome, which would still technically make you a MAN.

 

[tkioz]

I personally think bisexuality of the norm for humanity with heterosexuality (only attracted to members of the opposite gender) and homosexuality (only attracted to members of the same gender) being the rarity.

Because if you can get an honest answer, most straight people would say that there are some people of the same gender that they find attractive, and the same is true of gay people.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

Sex changes deal in the physical and chemical aspects of the body.

For example... male to female changers take large doses of estrogen (Among other things) to alter the chemical balances in their bodies. Typically, this is most noticeable in voice pitch, the growth of breast, smoother skin, and the smoothing of some facial features.

Next, the adams apple is shaved off. Breast implants can also be used if estrogen has not induced a large enough bosom (Or if s/he wants to be a stripper).

Finally, the penis is NOT cut off... it is reshaped. The nerve clusters of the penis are moved into the hole the doctor drilled (not sure on the specifics there), so that sex still offers feeling. These surgeries can be more convincing than I'd like to believe.

Finally, numerous other elective surgeries can be performed, such as bone shaving in the hands and feet to give a more feminine appearance.

EDIT: I realize you knew most of this, but you seemed vague. I thought a more specific approach could help you understand.

EDIT2: Also, realize that Doctors are required by law to perform EXTENSIVE mental evaluations before performing any of these steps. From my understanding, thousands of people are denied surgery a year for this reason.

Yes yes, I was aware of all that... well I was unaware of the penis reshaping thing, not that I was overly concerned. Anyway that still doesn't cover the fact that you'd still be lugging around a Y-chromosome, which would still technically make you a MAN.

Thats arguable. Most gender jumpers will throw a hissy fit about 'really being a women trapped in a mans body,' or vice versa. And really, who are we to judge (Unless they trick me into sleeping with them. Then the Jduge bust out the gavel)?

I wouldn't say such things in this forum though. Someone bound to throw a hissy fit.

I personally think bisexuality of the norm for humanity with heterosexuality (only attracted to members of the opposite gender) and homosexuality (only attracted to members of the same gender) being the rarity.

Because if you can get an honest answer, most straight people would say that there are some people of the same gender that they find attractive, and the same is true of gay people.

Theres a massive difference between attractive and sexually attractive.

I can call a man attractive because I find him so. It does not mean he can ever turn me on.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Spoiler: snip

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

Sex changes deal in the physical and chemical aspects of the body.

For example... male to female changers take large doses of estrogen (Among other things) to alter the chemical balances in their bodies. Typically, this is most noticeable in voice pitch, the growth of breast, smoother skin, and the smoothing of some facial features.

Next, the adams apple is shaved off. Breast implants can also be used if estrogen has not induced a large enough bosom (Or if s/he wants to be a stripper).

Finally, the penis is NOT cut off... it is reshaped. The nerve clusters of the penis are moved into the hole the doctor drilled (not sure on the specifics there), so that sex still offers feeling. These surgeries can be more convincing than I'd like to believe.

Finally, numerous other elective surgeries can be performed, such as bone shaving in the hands and feet to give a more feminine appearance.

EDIT: I realize you knew most of this, but you seemed vague. I thought a more specific approach could help you understand.

EDIT2: Also, realize that Doctors are required by law to perform EXTENSIVE mental evaluations before performing any of these steps. From my understanding, thousands of people are denied surgery a year for this reason.

Yes yes, I was aware of all that... well I was unaware of the penis reshaping thing, not that I was overly concerned. Anyway that still doesn't cover the fact that you'd still be lugging around a Y-chromosome, which would still technically make you a MAN.

Thats arguable. Most gender jumpers will throw a hissy fit about 'really being a women trapped in a mans body,' or vice versa. And really, who are we to judge (Unless they trick me into sleeping with them. Then the Jduge bust out the gavel)?

I wouldn't say such things in this forum though. Someone bound to throw a hissy fit.

Hence why I used the word "technically."

 

[gl1koz3]

Well, how about being "turned on" by body traits that both sexes have.

Though, as some have said here, the line is blurry.

 

[scw55]

It's just open minded. I mean I prefer women. But I wouldn't say no to an exceptional man, and have pondered it previously (when not going through pubity).

I heard the Spartans encouraged... um, that sort of stuff among the soldiers. It built stronger bonds and thus more effective group of soldier. Or it could have been a rumour someone started. Shrug, read it on a forum.

 

[dexxyoto]

the problem with explaining what bi-sexuality is some people do not want to understand. Their are poeple that are totaly "staight" and can not view anything diffrent. You can use every saying, use every refrence hell you can even tie them to a chair and force them to watch "intructional" videos but they will still not understand. personaly i say a bi-sexuality has double the chance to go home with somone before last call.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler: snip

Personally I think it's an excuse for people with severe commitment issues, but what the fuck do I know?

On an slightly unrelated note: Sex changes. How the fuck does that work? Sure you could hack off your dick, get some ovaries installed and take a boatload of estrogen, but you'll still be carrying around a fucking Y-chromosome. ...or going the other way, I guess you'd still be lacking in said Y-chromosome.

Sex changes deal in the physical and chemical aspects of the body.

For example... male to female changers take large doses of estrogen (Among other things) to alter the chemical balances in their bodies. Typically, this is most noticeable in voice pitch, the growth of breast, smoother skin, and the smoothing of some facial features.

Next, the adams apple is shaved off. Breast implants can also be used if estrogen has not induced a large enough bosom (Or if s/he wants to be a stripper).

Finally, the penis is NOT cut off... it is reshaped. The nerve clusters of the penis are moved into the hole the doctor drilled (not sure on the specifics there), so that sex still offers feeling. These surgeries can be more convincing than I'd like to believe.

Finally, numerous other elective surgeries can be performed, such as bone shaving in the hands and feet to give a more feminine appearance.

EDIT: I realize you knew most of this, but you seemed vague. I thought a more specific approach could help you understand.

EDIT2: Also, realize that Doctors are required by law to perform EXTENSIVE mental evaluations before performing any of these steps. From my understanding, thousands of people are denied surgery a year for this reason.

Yes yes, I was aware of all that... well I was unaware of the penis reshaping thing, not that I was overly concerned. Anyway that still doesn't cover the fact that you'd still be lugging around a Y-chromosome, which would still technically make you a MAN.

Thats arguable. Most gender jumpers will throw a hissy fit about 'really being a women trapped in a mans body,' or vice versa. And really, who are we to judge (Unless they trick me into sleeping with them. Then the Jduge bust out the gavel)?

I wouldn't say such things in this forum though. Someone bound to throw a hissy fit.

Hence why I used the word "technically."

Then... what the hell were you asking? Everyone knows this genetics stuff.