Yeah I agree, Im sick and tired of people putting silent, barely any personality characters like Freeman as best characters, when really they have absolutely no character whatsoever.
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I agree, up above I said The Moon from DuckTales also fits in that area of the original being the best one. The people I was talking about have a sort of all or nothing approach their enjoyment of game music. To them, it's not possible to make a better version of the originals with real instruments. They didn't really understand what nostalgia is and don't like admitting to having it's influence(it's gotten a bad name over the years for some reason). They told me that they felt the fun and excitement of the game while listening to the music, a feeling they didn't get as much when listening to covers of it.1337mokro said:
Damnit Grey, add something to that before someone gets snarky with the report button!Grey Carter said:
Notice how whenever people bring up excellent examples of retro soundtracks, they're all from brilliant games?
Grey Carter said:
Come to think of it, I don't remember a good soundtrack for a bad nes/snes game. Granted, growing up I didn't notice a games music nearly as much as I do now. I do know there were bad music in good games though. While I can't remember specific games, I remember playing Weird Al on my boombox while playing some brawlers because the music was boring.
The only game I severely dislike but has an amazing soundtrack is Unlimited Saga, but that's for the PS2. Sigh, remembering the great music only reminds me of the $80 I won't get back...
16 bit soundtracks, you say?
Chrono Trigger, FF IV-VI, Earthbound, Secret of Mana, and Super Mario RPG would like some words, sir.
Stepping away from that particular horse for a moment, I would love to see this as a counterpoint to Yahtzee. While he tells us to emphasize the faults over the good, you're telling us the other end of the logic of reviewing, to hold what's good out and above what's terrible about it. It's almost like you're telling us to consider the faults separately from the achievements of the game's design...which is preposterous, of course. Who would ever think of doing that?
Chrono Trigger, FF IV-VI, Earthbound, Secret of Mana, and Super Mario RPG would like some words, sir.
Stepping away from that particular horse for a moment, I would love to see this as a counterpoint to Yahtzee. While he tells us to emphasize the faults over the good, you're telling us the other end of the logic of reviewing, to hold what's good out and above what's terrible about it. It's almost like you're telling us to consider the faults separately from the achievements of the game's design...which is preposterous, of course. Who would ever think of doing that?
I don't understand the love of video game music myself. Doesn't seem like a programmer at a keyboard coming up with a tune at the last minute playing only about 4 notes can be... ya know, something worth covering by a bunch of musicians who spend the bulk of their time focused on playing and usually writing music.
Yes because every musician ever is a composer... Are you seriously saying every member in a 100 string orchestra composes music on the side?thebakedpotato said:
Come on please, get your head out of your ass. The people behind mere videogame "music" are also professional composers, not programmers, you don't program music in, you hire a composer. Many of them with years of experience composing all kinds of music on top of years of experience playing instruments themselves. That is hilariously condescending and I would love to see you say that to these composers face, calling them programmers punching in notes.
Most misinformed post ever seeing as you couldn't even get the amount of notes correct at 8 or 16. That's what the amount of bits stand for.
So the argument slanted towards a defense of Chiptunes? Sigh. They have their time and place. CHIPTUNE STREAMING!!!
Great comic guys! I am loving these and praying for about 6 of them.
Great comic guys! I am loving these and praying for about 6 of them.
I was going to say something about how I vastly preferred Ace Attorney's chiptune soundtracks to the orchestral stuff, but don't want to keep beating a dead horse.
But the funny thing is, I can actually say there are several horrible games out there that actually have great soundtracks. Sonic 06 and Alone in the Dark 2008 come to mind. Terrible games by no stretch of the imagination, but I will admit to listening to that super cheesy "His World" or the Bulgarian choir on my iPod. Granted, none of these are 16-bit, but then, I haven't played too many awful 16-bit games with great soundtracks.
And yes, people have often told me that I'm too nitpicky about games that I particularly gush about. Shattered Memories had wonky shadows and the chases could get annoying at times; No More Heroes 2 needed more rank challengers and Henry was completely wasted; Tales games usually don't start getting good until it's 25% done and before then, it can seem really cliche and uninteresting. I guess it's just default for me to already notice the bad among the good.
Also, in defense of Resident Evil's narrative; it's not exactly good, and the dialogue is poorly written, but the mystery behind it all and the documents and files you find create an atmosphere that is palpable and intriguing, and that's just enough to hook me in and be invested in what was happening. So, it had a bad narrative, but I still liked it, if that makes any sense.
But the funny thing is, I can actually say there are several horrible games out there that actually have great soundtracks. Sonic 06 and Alone in the Dark 2008 come to mind. Terrible games by no stretch of the imagination, but I will admit to listening to that super cheesy "His World" or the Bulgarian choir on my iPod. Granted, none of these are 16-bit, but then, I haven't played too many awful 16-bit games with great soundtracks.
And yes, people have often told me that I'm too nitpicky about games that I particularly gush about. Shattered Memories had wonky shadows and the chases could get annoying at times; No More Heroes 2 needed more rank challengers and Henry was completely wasted; Tales games usually don't start getting good until it's 25% done and before then, it can seem really cliche and uninteresting. I guess it's just default for me to already notice the bad among the good.
Also, in defense of Resident Evil's narrative; it's not exactly good, and the dialogue is poorly written, but the mystery behind it all and the documents and files you find create an atmosphere that is palpable and intriguing, and that's just enough to hook me in and be invested in what was happening. So, it had a bad narrative, but I still liked it, if that makes any sense.
Sigh ... This comic used to be better when they didn't slapped in our face how vastly superior gamer the author is, in comparison of us lowly fan boys.... cause you know that's who it feels when you read it now imho, I miss so much Erin hallucinations, the whole link saga was great, how she keep mixing game character with the real wrld, Heck i enjoyed Cory's hamster tale, but no, now we just get a " you guys suck because boobs/anime/16 bit music/opinion whatever" ...
Now now I could go and post some 8/16 bit game ost buuut I rather leave this here:
Guess what, it's not an ost from a video game, i carry this around and bought the new album in amazon so yeah, there's lots of great chiptune music, buy it if you like it xD they are great BTW.
Now now I could go and post some 8/16 bit game ost buuut I rather leave this here:
Guess what, it's not an ost from a video game, i carry this around and bought the new album in amazon so yeah, there's lots of great chiptune music, buy it if you like it xD they are great BTW.
Mario, Gordon, and Master Chief may barely qualify as characters, but they are certainly more qualified the fucking L block.
Makes perfect sense, and it's a perfectly legitimate opinion. There is something compelling about the case files, but I think that's more in how they're presented (They're tied up in the gameplay) rather than their actual content. It's a stretch to go from "hey, this part of the game is okay" to "WESKER IS A GOOD CHARACTER."OniYouji said:
In retrospect, this post was so off that it's hilarious.Phrozenflame500 said:
Because everyone MUST DEFEND THE CHIPTUNES, the most overrated music style in... ever.
That time never really existed.Drauger said:
I mean, I don't think they're doing it now, but they haven't really changed up the message much. Was it okay to be "slapped in the face" back when colourful surrogates did it instead? Was it the pretense that it was someone other than the author (Erin and her rogue's gallery) that made such a "slap" easier to swallow?
I'm just curious. This isn't anything really new for CM.
Unless you mean the superficiality. In which case you might as well complain that you miss the days of Erin's pointy head, because that made the comics superior.
But you see, in the extended universe, the L Block is quite a deep character. You see....burningdragoon said:
It's associated with something beloved, so people get in on it.thebakedpotato said:
I don't think anyone saw that shift coming.lacktheknack said:
Seriously, I thought people were going to lose it over their self-inserts as well.