Human Centipede II Refused U.K. Classification
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Considering we're pretty liberal over here with most things, this film must be damn fucking awful to actually get refused a rating. So I'm not really too bothered.
That said, does this rule it out as a DVD release? If not, there'll be plenty of people getting it when it comes out just for the gross out factor. And even if there is no DVD, it'll be all over the internet for the rest of time, so seeing it is hardly going to be a problem.
That said, does this rule it out as a DVD release? If not, there'll be plenty of people getting it when it comes out just for the gross out factor. And even if there is no DVD, it'll be all over the internet for the rest of time, so seeing it is hardly going to be a problem.
I'm pretty much on board with the censorship after seeing what the sequel "has to offer".
That plot is so wrong on so many levels I can't describe it.
That plot is so wrong on so many levels I can't describe it.
I see what you're saying and, really, it comes down to what you'd rather. You are arguing for the safety of people and I am arguing for my ideal total freedom of expression. While I don't think the two will forever remain mutually exclusive, I think they are now.MelasZepheos said:
The problem really, in my view, is with people who cannot draw the line in real life, or the notion of such, necessitating the presence of a line in fiction.
The basis of my idealism is that what you said about being totally comfortable with all the stuff you watch is something I wish for everyone. Time was that no matter how open-minded you were, you'd be embarrassed to reveal your collection of erotica because nobody would accept anything even slightly niche that you owned. So I guess I'd like it to broaden, so nobody has to feel guilty about doing something totally harmless just because they have an unusual fetish that they can't suppress, nor would I wish them to.
Hopefully it's better than the last one. I walked away from that one EXTREMELY disappointed. From the way everyone was going on and on about it, I expected a lot more nasty shit. Wasn't even gross. I expected one of the girls to tear away from the others asshole and bring the persons lower intestine with them, at the very LEAST.
But no. All you really see is ass skin on their faces. For fucks sake, SAW is nastier than that movie.
But no. All you really see is ass skin on their faces. For fucks sake, SAW is nastier than that movie.
I might enjoy watching it, but it's got nothing to do with me wanting to recreate anything I see in the movie for myself (well, not in any actual way, you'll see what I mean further down).MelasZepheos said:
I'm a horror fan, I always have been, I've been fascinated with the genre since I was a child and I watched Hellraiser for the first time. I loved the make-up, I loved the experience of sitting in the dark and having the movie lightly tease my fear response and put me on the edge of my seat. I was amazed at how someone was able to have horrible things done to them through the magic of special effects.
I've always seen it as fiction, even when I was a kid I knew it was fake. So a movie like this is probably something I'd watch for the learning experience, it might show me how to do something I've never seen done before and make me want to figure out how I can replicate that effect myself with simple materials like latex and tissue paper, but I'd never do that to a real person.
The actual stuff going on in the movie sounds like it's trying way too hard to go for shock value, so it's probably a movie I'd laugh at more than feel any disgust towards. I'll just see it as a lame attempt to get in with the more accomplished horror movies so it can never meet any expectation other than a very, very low one.
I can watch the actors have corn syrup thrown over them and have their fake limbs torn to shreds and laugh at it because I know it's fiction and I can simply laugh at how pathetically hard it's trying to illicit a response from me of horror or disgust when it's just going about it in such an unsubtle way, only showing how little the director knows about the horror genre and how much effort it actually takes to make a good horror movie which can make me both terrified and disgusted with just a few sound effects and a well-placed shadow.
However, it's not like I'm completely devoid of empathy. Yes, I can laugh at horror movies that are showing some of the worst stuff imaginable, but I have literally cried like a baby after watching a documentary about abuse cases against the mentally disabled in one of UK's asylums. Why? Because that actually happened, it wasn't fiction. Those were real people suffering real pain, not actors. The abuse they went through for years was not staged for entertainment, it was to expose the system and force some action to be taken against it. So, I cried.
The point is, I could easily enjoy even the sickest, more depraved and horrifically graphic movie ever made (which I'm guessing The Human Centipede II is trying its hardest to be) because I know that it's nothing but fiction. I understand the mechanics behind it and what makes it work and what makes it not work as a horror movie. I might enjoy the learning experience of the movie and figuring out how they did some of the effects, I might even enjoy just how pathetic it in its attempts to call itself a movie, but I'll probably not enjoy the movie itself, because it sounds like it sucks balls when compared to some of the really good horror movies out there.
So, basically, people like horror movies for different reasons and just because they like them doesn't automatically make them a dangerous person is probably what my point is.
Sorry for the long post, I'm one of those types of fans who feels the need to defend their fandom at even the slightest provocation, I suppose. I don't mean any offense by this post.
i think the reason its not going to be shown in UK cinemas is because we have taste and this film was just bad...really bad
p.s. to clarify i mean it sucked ass
p.s. to clarify i mean it sucked ass
Well, it's good to see the BBFC protecting the mindless drones paying to see movies they haven't heard of before. Seriously, you get some real idiots complaining about the content of movies like this, when a small investigation tends to warn you beforehand.
Wouldn't the people to the back of the centipede die from not eating proper food?
