"Hundreds" of Battlefield 3 Cheaters Banned

BehattedWanderer

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And lo, there came a sweeping of the Banhammer, and a hundred voices of cheaters did cry out in pain, and it was heard across the mountains, plains, and deserts that those trolls and cheaters would be no more, but others would take their place.
 

artanis_neravar

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Satsuki666 said:
Volf99 said:
Is it really cheating to exploit a glitch that the game developers made? I get being ticked off by hackers, but exploiting a glitch is different.
Didnt you know your not allowed to do anything that the developers do not approve of. It does not matter if it is in the game or even if it is a glitch or not. If the developers dont like it its not a ban worthy crime. I have actually seen stat resets and bans for things that are no where near this bad in CoD before though so this does not surprise me.
I got banned from MW2 for other people being predictable, They kept coming at me from the same direction and I kept sniping them dead and got the nuke.
 

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bahumat42 said:
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I'm not a big fan of battlefield, but I welcome bans for cheaters regardless of the game.

What I want to know is, are all (or at least most) of the accounts being banned legitimate copies of the game, and not hacked copies that can just be started up again with no cost to the cheater?
i think that they would need to aquire a new key to add to a new origin account, Now whether or not the keys are hackable is anyones guess really.
Well I know from experience that this was common on MW2 and seems to be starting again in MW3, was this common in BF2? (I only played that online for a few hours, as for some reason that game lagged a lot for me even though the servers would quote a ping of ~50-80ms (then <300ms in game) and other games had no problems at the same time).

So I guess the question is have EA with BF3 on origin, done a better job with security than IW with MW3 on steam. (in light of recent events with steam that may seem like a loaded question, I don't mean it to be, please don't read into that)
 

Dogstile

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Ban? Just wipe the stat's and fix the bugs, especially if a ban can make you lose access to the other games you have.
 

Croaker42

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Yet another example of why I don't feel bad bowing out of this iteration multiplayer FPS. ORIGIN makes me sick and needs to stop before I step anywhere near EA again.
Also EA is disrespecting their online crowd kind of hard with this. Exploiting has gone hand in had with their games since the beginning.
 

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bahumat42 said:
Hawk of the Plain said:
bahumat42 said:
Hawk of the Plain said:
I'm not a big fan of battlefield, but I welcome bans for cheaters regardless of the game.

What I want to know is, are all (or at least most) of the accounts being banned legitimate copies of the game, and not hacked copies that can just be started up again with no cost to the cheater?
i think that they would need to aquire a new key to add to a new origin account, Now whether or not the keys are hackable is anyones guess really.
Well I know from experience that this was common on MW2 and seems to be starting again in MW3, was this common in BF2? (I only played that online for a few hours, as for some reason that game lagged a lot for me even though the servers would quote a ping of ~50-80ms (then <300ms in game) and other games had no problems at the same time).

So I guess the question is have EA with BF3 on origin, done a better job with security than IW with MW3 on steam. (in light of recent events with steam that may seem like a loaded question, I don't mean it to be, please don't read into that)
probably
i remember the iwnet for mw2 didn't use most of valves anti cheating measures, i have little doubt they have decided to include them in this iteration. (that sounds vague, what i mean is that they probably haven't increased in security since the last game)
They have stated that they increased security with VAC and that they have admins observing games for cheaters
 

Eilanis

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The fact remains that the Terms of Service almost always explicitly state that exploiting glitches and bugs in such a fashion can/will get you banned. If you get banned for such an action, you got what was coming to you.
 

ph0b0s123

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How about patching the bugs in the game instead of banning people for using the bugs. Wasn't finding exploits in a virtual world the whole point of the Matrix movie. The movie obviously would not work now as Neo and his comrades would get banned for using exploits....

To me this is one of the things gamers do. If you leave a weakness in your game don't blame people for exploiting it. Just fix the the exploits rather than getting ban happy. If you want to punish say the people using the jeep exploit, take away all their points earned from doing repairs.
 

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dogstile said:
Ban? Just wipe the stat's and fix the bugs, especially if a ban can make you lose access to the other games you have.
Agree'd. Banning is not required. Wiping the stats and levels should be sufficient. Maybe a week long ban or something, but not forever.

I never considered level bug exploits cheating - just dick moves and good server admins generally don't allow them. To me cheating is wall hack or aim bot.
 

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Croaker42 said:
Yet another example of why I don't feel bad bowing out of this iteration multiplayer FPS. ORIGIN makes me sick and needs to stop before I step anywhere near EA again.
Also EA is disrespecting their online crowd kind of hard with this. Exploiting has gone hand in had with their games since the beginning.
How so, exactly? There will always be ways to get around things, no matter what EA does. Exploiting is just idiotic, if you're going to play the game then do so properly. Sure, you can get 10000 points by shifting right there and pressing the G key and reciting Ovid, but that's not playing the game. No one likes it, and it's usually no better than hacking, just harder to prove.
 

Waaghpowa

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There's an entire platoon of cheaters, one guy had almost 1 billion points about 3weeks ago. There are also a lot of people already at 20 or higher than the max level from that exploit.
 

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Are people really trying to justify this using the flimsy excuse "well I get xp by repairing vehicles in other ways, so this should be ok too."

No. Just stop. You know there is a distinct difference between the 2 in terms of gameplay.

Yes, the glitches should be patched. that's a no brainer. But if I remember the midnight launch of the game correcly, EA intentionally waited to turn on the multiplayer servers so everyone would start at the same time and have a fair shot from the get go. And considering the perks you get as you rank up/level up classes, I can understand that.

Hell you can compare a little bird pilot who has IR flares, heat seekers, etc. to one who has nothing and tell me who's going to win that dog fight.

So yes, this glitch isn't just a short cut to max rank. It presents an unfair advantage over other legitimate players. And EA ain't playin that game.

They cheated, knew what they were doing was an exploit of game mechanics, and did it anyway. No sympathy.
 

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Catalyst6 said:
Croaker42 said:
Yet another example of why I don't feel bad bowing out of this iteration multiplayer FPS. ORIGIN makes me sick and needs to stop before I step anywhere near EA again.
Also EA is disrespecting their online crowd kind of hard with this. Exploiting has gone hand in had with their games since the beginning.
How so, exactly? There will always be ways to get around things, no matter what EA does. Exploiting is just idiotic, if you're going to play the game then do so properly. Sure, you can get 10000 points by shifting right there and pressing the G key and reciting Ovid, but that's not playing the game. No one likes it, and it's usually no better than hacking, just harder to prove.
First I am at a point where I realize that plenty of fun games exist in the world. Plenty fun games that don't use origin. So on that matter I stand on principal and choose not to play BF3 at all. As I am not a MW fan, I guess that leaves me out of the current gen of multiplayer FPS

As for glitching; People do take part in it so it turns out that some people do enjoy it. Similar to the fact that I don't like gum chewers but gum chewers enjoy chewing gum. I don't think I have the right to tell them to stop. "Life experience may change when dealing with other people."
 

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I know you all feel like justice was served, but imagine how it must feel to be theese people. They paid 60(ish) dollars to play a game, and got banned from it because they were using an exploit that got passed the developers. That's pretty stupid if you ask me. They should get a slap on the wrist at most, but banning them on the fault of the devs is downright wrong.
I'm probably never buying another EA published game, I'm just really tired of their shit.
This brings back memories of SecuROM...
 

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Stainlesssteele4 said:
I know you all feel like justice was served, but imagine how it must feel to be theese people. They paid 60(ish) dollars to play a game, and got banned from it because they were using an exploit that got passed the developers. That's pretty stupid if you ask me. They should get a slap on the wrist at most, but banning them on the fault of the devs is downright wrong.
I'm probably never buying another EA published game, I'm just really tired of their shit.
This brings back memories of SecuROM...
So what you're saying is that the player, knowing using an exploit and getting an advantage over the other players illegitimately, should always be treated better than those who play fair and square?

Sorry, but that just doesn't fly amongst those that play the game fairly and don't use cheats/exploits.