"Hundreds" of Battlefield 3 Cheaters Banned

mew4ever23

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The jeep thing isn't a cheat - it's is an exploit, deserving of a stat wipe, nothing more. Save the banhammer for people who are actually cheating and hacking.

So long as this is what's being done, and the hammer's not being dropped on exploits, I am alright with this.
 

MurderousToaster

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Volf99 said:
mjc0961 said:
I feel sorry for the MW3 fans. You just know that with how these cheaters act, they're going to rant about how they did nothing wrong (bullshit) and say that they're going to get MW3 instead. And then the people who just want to enjoy MW3 will have to put up with those fuck nuggets who want to glitch and cheat instead, as if they didn't have enough of those people already.
Is it really cheating to exploit a glitch that the game developers made? I get being ticked off by hackers, but exploiting a glitch is different.
Yeah, it's cheating. It's in the EULA or ToS or whichever is relevant. Normally explicitly states that using in-game exploits in order to attain an advantage is totally against the rules and puts your account at risk of banning. Yeah, some would argue it's not entirely fair, but tough shit, I suppose - if they're going to make trouble for other players and ruin the game experience for everyone else, they're going to get banned.
 

lacktheknack

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SL33TBL1ND said:
What? You shouldn't be banned for farming xp like that. If you're aim-botting or something, sure. But you're not even affecting anyone with that glitch.
Reread the first line of the OP. They're banning someone (probably actual hackers), but only "have stats-wiped accounts for exploiting (such as boosting)".
 

Atmos Duality

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I'm bored...might as well play Devil's Advocate (and boy, what a devil):
Doesn't anyone else find it silly that we're innately DEFENDING a way to sidestep grind in a game here?

The cheats? There's no defending those. Hacks that flat out break the rules of the game should not be tolerated, and violations should be punished.
Exploits? Eh...depends. It's not necessarily a black-and-white issue.
The particular exploit I have for Devil's Advocate today is: "Boosting"

Fixing an overturned jeep to sidestep the combined raw DAYS worth of grind isn't really morally questionable; it's just clever. Is it "unfair" to anyone else? NO. IT IS NOT.

Everyone had the capability to do this (compared to cheats, which essentially modify the rules of the game itself). Perhaps not the knowledge, but that's part of exploring the metagame; and it's a process that's going to be present in every competitive game whether one wants it or not. Learn the tricks if you want to win.

"But it isn't fair to the people who did the work/grind!"

Before I get into that potential argument, I need to state this: Adding layers of grind into a game to artificially lengthen is innately flawed gameplay design.
Stratifying players in a game that's intended to be based on execution is a horribly flawed stance to argue from in the first place. Grind (no matter what sort of game it's found in) is a roadblock for potential and nothing more.
The only thing that "boosting" does is sidestep it; nothing more. It ultimately just saves the player time.

To argue for "fairness" would require arguing for everyone to start at the same mechanical potential. (That is, starting with all the perks/weapons/classes). Now that everyone has equal POTENTIAL, the only factor that will vary from player to player is their personal skill, and "levels" should be based off of that (strictly for matchmaking).

That said, one could argue that playing against someone who has all the high-level perks/weapons is unfair, but I can argue that even in the absence of boosting this problem is going to apply to everyone else who picks up the game later.

Low level players will get picked on by high-level players, "boosters" or not, unless matchmaking uses level as part of its function, and if it does then the boosters will only have each other to play against, which means they won't bother the 'legitimate players' for a long time.
 

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Yey so the interesting is going to be if you accidentally (or just being a bit dumb, not understanding your not supposed to do whatever...) do you still get banned (with a chance of forever..)?
I know I won't get banned (for cheating etc anyhow) but I know I would be really mad if I logged on and where told
"no you cheated in a game online you should not even think about trying to play games anymore because you are a cheater..."

I think a reset of your score and maybe a temporary ban, the first time at least.. would be a more clever idea and a lot lower impact on "false positives".. O well it's EA so always expect the worst...
 

SL33TBL1ND

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lacktheknack said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
What? You shouldn't be banned for farming xp like that. If you're aim-botting or something, sure. But you're not even affecting anyone with that glitch.
Reread the first line of the OP. They're banning someone (probably actual hackers), but only "have stats-wiped accounts for exploiting (such as boosting)".
I still think that's pretty damn harsh.
 

lacktheknack

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SL33TBL1ND said:
lacktheknack said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
What? You shouldn't be banned for farming xp like that. If you're aim-botting or something, sure. But you're not even affecting anyone with that glitch.
Reread the first line of the OP. They're banning someone (probably actual hackers), but only "have stats-wiped accounts for exploiting (such as boosting)".
I still think that's pretty damn harsh.
I don't. Boosting annoys the crap out of me (and is a primary reason I dislike multiplayer, as it shows that someone takes the game too seriously, and tends to be not fun to play with).
 

SL33TBL1ND

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lacktheknack said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
lacktheknack said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
What? You shouldn't be banned for farming xp like that. If you're aim-botting or something, sure. But you're not even affecting anyone with that glitch.
Reread the first line of the OP. They're banning someone (probably actual hackers), but only "have stats-wiped accounts for exploiting (such as boosting)".
I still think that's pretty damn harsh.
I don't. Boosting annoys the crap out of me (and is a primary reason I dislike multiplayer, as it shows that someone takes the game too seriously, and tends to be not fun to play with).
It shows that people want to get as much xp as quick as possible so they don't have to deal with the whole ranking up shit. How does some guys infinitely repairing a car to get to the next rank affect you in any way?