I do not find Team Fortress 2 fun but I want to

[monkey_man]

it is something different. i play it mainly because it doens't want to be like COD/BF/ MOH and those other "realistic shooters" becuase tf2 difiles that, with the use of fancy hats, original graphics, and an overall well balanced class system. every class can be countered by other classes, and even scout VS sg is possible, if played right. also this game actually requires teammates, instead of one guy being a derp and getting 40 kills. while the rest hides behind the derp and collects the kills the derp leaves. in tf2, a team is vital for succes, like CP maps. you need a balance between defending, and attacking, because all attack means easy spy/scout caps, and all defence means.. no caps at all.

I'm not going to go into micro transactions, many people apparently like the idea of giving money to their lord and god. Personally, I think this whole mess could've been avoided by simply rewarding the player for contributing to the team. Say score was turned into currency, and hats and weapons could be bought with it. It has the passiveness of crafting with the player input of achievements. Why not make the prices based on the number of items the player has? So start all items dirt cheap and then increase the virtual cost as they gain more items. It raises the difficulty curve quite smoothly and gives players complete choice over the items that they want.

yeah, valve alread killed the score=money thing, because idle servers will run plugins for points. and dirty noobs will get all the items other players have to struggle for.

but the items = MOAR MONEYS is a good idea.

 

[velcrokidneyz]

I love it because it is different and I dont rly care about my teammates complaining if i dont play spot on. Ive seen this posted elsewhere, but they said that if you are having fun, then u are playing it right.

 

[Outright Villainy]

I don't think I can be particularly objective when it comes to tf2. Last weekend I finally got a chance to play it in weeks. This prompted the following message from a friend on monday, when my steam profile updated...

20 HOURS?! YOU WERE ONLY BACK FOR THE WEEKEND! THERE ARE ONLY 48 HOURS IN THE WEEKEND! 72 IF YOU COUNT FRIDAY.

Good grief! You have some dedication, man!

That's not entirely true though.
I had 49 hours.

 

[Delusibeta]

Not to mention the community is usually made up of 80% douchebags, and I fail to see anything entertaining about it unless you're part of that 80%.

Find better servers, frankly. The Escapist servers, PC Gamer server, RPS server, the TF2maps.net servers and the Chocolate Hammer server is where I spend most of my time, and I avoid (most) of the douches. Find your own ten-ish preferred servers, favourite them and stick to them.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Not to mention the community is usually made up of 80% douchebags, and I fail to see anything entertaining about it unless you're part of that 80%.

Find better servers, frankly. The Escapist servers, PC Gamer server, RPS server, the TF2maps.net servers and the Chocolate Hammer server is where I spend most of my time, and I avoid (most) of the douches. Find your own ten-ish preferred servers, favourite them and stick to them.

This is a good idea too. The Escapist server is a lot of fun when it gets running. Hampshire heavies is also really good for the U.K, as the community is decent, and there's nearly always one server that's pretty full, even up to 4.a.m in the morning.

Ah, good times...

 

[wordsmith]

-Snip-

OMG OMG OMG DO YOU GUYS TAKE AUSSIES DO YOU GUYS TAKE PIZZ-POINTS CAN I USE MY MIC CAN I BRING MY CAT?!

We take Aussies, pizz-points and mic-using cats. Hell, we let @danny ocean: play, the cat has to be smarter than he is

 

[XUnsafeNormalX]

I really only play TF2 because the skill cap is higher. I hate dying in Halo or CoD to grenade spam or retarded tactics. The only reason I didn't buy Reach is because I wasn't looking forward to more of the same.

That's just my opinion, if you're looking for a generally fun FPS that you can just jump into then CoD and Halo have TF2 beat. But TF2 definitely becomes better as you do.

Also playing Arena Servers helps you get better FYI.

 

[Communist partisan]

This game is highly acclaimed but I have failed to find that thing that makes it so.

Tell me what makes it appeal to you, that allows you to play it and enjoy it at the same time so that I may find a certain something that I look for in games or something new to try. (I do not want to tell you what I like in games simply to not limit what you are willing to say you like about TF2 or what gives it, its longevity)

No comparisons of other games please.

It was great but after a while I got bored and stopped playing. And if youcan't find it good don't fucking play it why play or do something you don't want to if you ain't forced.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I really don't think we can explain why you should have fun in a game, it wither gets you or it doesn't.
I for one like the silliness of it, not everyone does tho, so if you're looking for a realistic shooter, this game is a waste of your time.

 

[Mikeyfell]

I have an Idea play the other games on the Orange Box and try to forget about Valve's worst game

With TF2 being Valve's worst game, the other titles are so blindingly awesome people shave their eyelids right off and wail the chant of the perpetually howling sparrows.

yeah, Valve's worst could still be pretty awesome

but why base a game around competitive multyplayer? that's like basing a single player game around loading screens?

 

[Saulkar]

It was great but after a while I got bored and stopped playing. And if youcan't find it good don't fucking play it why play or do something you don't want to if you ain't forced.

Because I have a "very" narrow view of games and thus I need to broaden my horizens as the type of games I seek right now are getting stale. The only way to do that is find something I can relate to in games I otherwise may enjoy but may simply like in this case do not know how to.

P.S. What makes you think fowl language enunciates your statement?

 

[Jasper Jeffs]

I don't really like it much either, but then again I can't play FPS's longer than 10 minutes without getting bored. I do enjoy the instant spawn 24/7 servers though, where you can drop in, play for as long as you want and leave. I don't really like the objective modes, you should just try some DM servers though.

 

[Communist partisan]

It was great but after a while I got bored and stopped playing. And if youcan't find it good don't fucking play it why play or do something you don't want to if you ain't forced.

Because I have a "very" narrow view of games and thus I need to broaden my horizens as the type of games I seek right now are getting stale. The only way to do that is find something I can relate to in games I otherwise may enjoy but may simply like in this case do not know how to.

P.S. What makes you think fowl language enunciates your statement?

But if you don't like it I really don't see any reason to try to like it but download some skins making everything look better and it'll possibly work.

I dont swear for making my speetch/writing have more effect, sound better or something else you can think of or anything I'm yust used to it, peapole I know swear all the time so I got used and you don't need to be sutch a "moral cake" I'm pretty sure you swear some too.

 

[archvile93]

I found the game incredibly enjoyable before they introduced random drops, crafting and micro transactions. What the game had was a sensible level of balance, classes with a limited array of weapons that were fun to use and the only reason to play it was to actually enjoy yourself.

Gosh you do write a lot.

So the arguments are:

-TF2 was good.

-Item Drops made it a grind fest.

-Crafting is... long-winded? I'm not really sure what you're saying here.

-And you didn't want to go into micro transactions.

=So... Item drops made it a grind fest?

I think it only becomes a grind fest if you let it become a grind fest. I hardly ever find anything, so almost everything I have I unlocked (That milestone system IS still in place). I don't care, because I'm focusing on playing the game.

Besides, how is a random drop system more of a grind than a 'Do these things for this' system? It's not at all. It only becomes as such when you start to care too much, which you clearly do, or else you wouldn't have used so many words to describe so few things. Which brings me back to my first point of attitude:

Just focus on playing the core, good 'ol fashioned game, like you say you want to, without worrying about all the extra bits. It will not seem like a grind, it will seem like a nice bonus. If you play to actually enjoy yourself, you will enjoy yourself.

Ok, thanks! How do I find the server? do I just search for it?

Click this link while you're on your gaming PC. [steam://connect/uk.tf2.escapistmagazine.com:13013]

It will start up TF2 and connect you straight to it, if there's space. The other admins and I actually have it as a shortcut on our desktops.

Yeah like the milestone system is any better. CoD did unlocking way better, not that they did it good mind you because there is no good way to do it; it's simply a retarded idea that will never work well because it's immpossible to od right. Everything should be unlocked from the start, you shouldn't have to prove you don't need it to get it. And don't give me that new Mannconomy crap as a good solution, that's just Valve's way of nickel and diming their player base, nothing more.

 

[Mordwyl]

I have an Idea play the other games on the Orange Box and try to forget about Valve's worst game

With TF2 being Valve's worst game, the other titles are so blindingly awesome people shave their eyelids right off and wail the chant of the perpetually howling sparrows.

yeah, Valve's worst could still be pretty awesome

but why base a game around competitive multyplayer? that's like basing a single player game around loading screens?

It being a Valve game may very well be the reason it's so popular among players. There is a very strong connection between them and the developers, to the point a lot of newer content was based from input by players and several player-made maps becoming official.

That's not to factor in the great attention Valve gave the game in every possible detail, from the presentation to the mechanics. Not a single one of the nine classes plays like the others offering a gameplay variation for any sorts of player, which leads to the main attraction: It encourages teamwork. TF2 was designed with the idea of strength in diversity, where any other shooter neglects this for the most part resulting in much solo play.

 

[daemon37]

Left 4 Dead had Co op multyplayer
and I think Counter strike did too, I'm not sure I never played it
it makes them less bad than TF2

Left 4 Dead has both co-op and competitive modes. Counter-strike is purely competive, and most of the people who play it are super-aggresive hyper-caffeinated jerks that can headshot you from across the map with a pistol. I think if you played it you'd change your mind about TF2 being the worst Valve game.

I just hate the whole competitive multyplayer thing
I have a friend who loves competitive multyplayer *namely Modern Warfare 2. and I asked him why it's so fun. and he said "Fun isn't the point of competitive multyplayer, it's for the challenges like sprinting 250 miles or disarming 300 enemy C4's."

I don't know your friend but he sounds like the kind of guy who ruins competitive multiplayer for someone like me. I play for fun, and to relax. And when I have teammate/enemies who are trying to earn some stupid achievement INSTEAD of trying to win that pisses me off to no end. If you want achievements, go to achievement servers.

So I don't think there is any real point to comp multyplayer. especially not if it's the only part of the game.
plus they've proven that they can knock single player out of the park with Half Life and Portal

Portal was like an 1.5 hrs long, and while Half-life was great, it isn't all that popular. The most played games on Steam are Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2, so that's where Valve is putting their attention.

all I'm saying is that I want to see Half Life 2 episode 3 before Left 3 Dead or Team Fortress 3
I would also like portal 2 but honestly how long do they have to work on those god damn HL2 episodes?

I agree with you here. Where is EP3? It wouldn't be so bad but EP2 ended on such a cliffhanger. Quit playing with my emotions Valve, give me some closure already!

 

[Mikeyfell]

Not a single one of the nine classes plays like the others offering a gameplay variation for any sorts of player

that's my favorite part about TF2

it doesn't make the competitive multyplayer any less monotonous to me

 

[GameSlave15]

overall youll have to understand that it is a team based game. if your team is not doing well because 4 ass hats all want to play sniper then get ready to rage. but if your the type of person who likes to fill whatever role needs to be filled its a good time. the community is great the sense of humor and the rapid play made it appealing to me. i like to be the guy that changes on the fly from pyro to heavy so the team can break through a deadlock. also the fact that its like 15 dollars and valve keeps adding shit to it years after its release is a good thing to. and hats. youll develope an unhealthy hat fetish.