I Don't Have Live

[Shadow Tyrant]

So everyone is raving about these fantastic awesome super fabulous games like Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and what have you. But the best aspect of 90% of the best games today is "The great multiplayer," which is, of course, usually experienced over Live (Or the PSN network and the Wii's thing). Well, that's great and all, but how am I supposed to enjoy a game if I can't play the best part of it? It really kind of ticks me off that developers now focus more on the multiplayer than they do the single player. Even upcoming games like Fable 2 focus intensely on co-op. And while it still has a huge single-player campaign and I plan to buy it and enjoy it immensely, I still feel like I'm missing out on a chunk of it just because I can't afford to give Microsoft all my money. So I ask you, good people of the internet, where have all the good single-player games gone? Why do producers think every person who plays their games has friends to play it with? Are we moving into an age where you won't be able to play a game without having another person to play with you? When is this trend going to end?

 

[shatnershaman]

I have to play at others to play online (woo dial-up)

Fable 2's co-op is just playing single player wiht another player there isn't "bonus stuff" your going to miss

You still have Fallout 3,FF13,and the casual games (Banko Koozie for example)to look forward to play by your self on your 360.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

So everyone is raving about these fantastic awesome super fabulous games like Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and what have you. But the best aspect of 90% of the best games today is "The great multiplayer," which is, of course, usually experienced over Live (Or the PSN network and the Wii's thing). Well, that's great and all, but how am I supposed to enjoy a game if I can't play the best part of it? It really kind of ticks me off that developers now focus more on the multiplayer than they do the single player. Even upcoming games like Fable 2 focus intensely on co-op. And while it still has a huge single-player campaign and I plan to buy it and enjoy it immensely, I still feel like I'm missing out on a chunk of it just because I can't afford to give Microsoft all my money. So I ask you, good people of the internet, where have all the good single-player games gone? Why do producers think every person who plays their games has friends to play it with? Are we moving into an age where you won't be able to play a game without having another person to play with you? When is this trend going to end?

Do you live in the states? Theres a great service called gamefly that lets you rent games and stuff so you save money.

Also you make it seem like playing by yourself is bad..I much prefer playing games by myself then on live..

 

[stompy]

I too don't have Live, but I just play the game for what it is. Basically, it's a lot easier to borrow or rent the game, or buy games that have long single players. That's what I do. That, and I don't really mind a short campaign.

 

[OhMy.HowCliche.]

I personally think that online games with people can only be "fantastic" if it's a soldier on the other end, playing from Iraq; that is the only use i see in video games over the internet, to keep people in other countries entertained and not concentrated on the life that they are living.

Just a personal thought.

xD

 

[Shadow Tyrant]

There's no bonus stuff, but I'm missing out on playing with my friends. There's also a difficulty curve when in co-op mode, I'm pretty sure.

Fallout 3 looks lame, I hate Final Fantasy, and I'm not a fan of "casual" games. (Although I'd hardly consider Banjo Kazooie a casual game...)

EDIT: Directed at Shatnershagjdjfd.

Also you make it seem like playing by yourself is bad..I much prefer playing games by myself then on live..

No, you obviously missed the point of my post. I like playing games by myself. But it's so hard nowadays to find a game that has a single-player campaign worth playing. Developers focus too much on the multiplayer and just completely shrug off those of us who play by ourselves.
Not so say I don't like multiplayer, but it's too expensive. Except on the Wii, but that's only games like Mario Kart and Brawl. And they screwed up Brawl's online. Badly.

 

[shatnershaman]

There's no bonus stuff, but I'm missing out on playing with my friends. There's also a difficulty curve when in co-op mode, I'm pretty sure.

Fallout 3 looks lame, I hate Final Fantasy, and I'm not a fan of "casual" games. (Although I'd hardly consider Banjo Kazooie a casual game...)

EDIT: Directed at Shatnershaman.

There isn't a difficulty curve Peter Molyneux has stated he doesn't want to limit the player a Lv 50 can go kill all the Lv 1's monsters for him no problem.

How is Banjo Kazooie not casual with the E rating cartoon characters and simple platforming/vehicles.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

There's no bonus stuff, but I'm missing out on playing with my friends. There's also a difficulty curve when in co-op mode, I'm pretty sure.

Fallout 3 looks lame, I hate Final Fantasy, and I'm not a fan of "casual" games. (Although I'd hardly consider Banjo Kazooie a casual game...)

EDIT: Directed at Shatnershagjdjfd.

Also you make it seem like playing by yourself is bad..I much prefer playing games by myself then on live..

No, you obviously missed the point of my post. I like playing games by myself. But it's so hard nowadays to find a game that has a single-player campaign worth playing. Developers focus too much on the multiplayer and just completely shrug off those of us who play by ourselves.
Not so say I don't like multiplayer, but it's too expensive. Except on the Wii, but that's only games like Mario Kart and Brawl. And they screwed up Brawl's online. Badly.

Well theres the ps3 which is free-online but thats like 8 years of paying for live.

 

[Shadow Tyrant]

There isn't a difficulty curve Peter Molyneux has stated he doesn't want to limit the player a Lv 50 can go kill all the Lv 1's monsters for him no problem.

How is Banjo Kazooie not casual with the E rating cartoon characters and simple platforming/vehicles.

You're just so ignorant that that doesn't even deserve an answer. Also I didn't even understand that first sentence.

Well theres the ps3 which is free-online but thats like 8 years of paying for live.

If I can't afford a hard drive, a wireless router, and a gold account, what makes you think I can afford a PS3? >_>


Okay, it's starting to sound like I'm just complaining about being too poor. No, that's not it. I really want to know why developers think everyone wants to play with their friends. Or that they have friends to play with. Where have all the good single-player games gone?

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

There's no bonus stuff, but I'm missing out on playing with my friends. There's also a difficulty curve when in co-op mode, I'm pretty sure.

Fallout 3 looks lame, I hate Final Fantasy, and I'm not a fan of "casual" games. (Although I'd hardly consider Banjo Kazooie a casual game...)

EDIT: Directed at Shatnershaman.

There isn't a difficulty curve Peter Molyneux has stated he doesn't want to limit the player a Lv 50 can go kill all the Lv 1's monsters for him no problem.

How is Banjo Kazooie not casual with the E rating cartoon characters and simple platforming/vehicles.

Lol its not as simple as you think. Steer away from talking about games other then halo 3..

 

[josh797]

dude majority of online services are free. nintendo is free, playstation is free, pc is free. get one of those and you wont have to give microsoft your hard earned cash.

 

[huntedannoyed]

Dead Space should be awesome, and there is no online. Also, Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War are amazing single player games. The multiplayer just enhances the gamming experience. And, it's cheaper than the price of one new 360 game (by $10) to get online for a year. But maybe I'm biased. I have live. But I can NEVER go back to not having live. Take the plunge.

 

[shatnershaman]

Lol its not as simple as you think. Steer away from talking about games other then halo 3..

Well the first 2 were easy and the third one is looks like its aimed at the younger audience and I doubt they want the kids throwing controllers.

 

[Shadow Tyrant]

Yeah, that's great. This isn't [entirely] about the money. It's about the multiplayer. I want games I can play by myself and have a good time with. Not ones I have to play with other people to enjoy.

EDIT: Dammit people, stop posting while I'm posting. >_>
Original comment directed at Josh345897598754

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Lol its not as simple as you think. Steer away from talking about games other then halo 3..

Well the first 2 were easy and the third one is looks like its aimed at the younger audience and I doubt they want the kids throwing controllers.

Seriously shatty its not good to dis games like this it won't go to well..

 

[shatnershaman]

Yeah, that's great. This isn't [entirely] about the money. It's about the multiplayer. I want games I can play by myself and have a good time with. Not ones I have to play with other people to enjoy.

Well you shot down games already just look at reviews and upcoming games list.

http://www.metacritic.com/
http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/calendar.aspx

 

[shatnershaman]

Lol its not as simple as you think. Steer away from talking about games other then halo 3..

Well the first 2 were easy and the third one is looks like its aimed at the younger audience and I doubt they want the kids throwing controllers.

Seriously shatty its not good to dis games like this it won't go to well..

I'm not "dising" Banjo Kazooie its really fun sorry if the rating and difficulty are insults (Halo is easy yet fun)

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Yeah, that's great. This isn't [entirely] about the money. It's about the multiplayer. I want games I can play by myself and have a good time with. Not ones I have to play with other people to enjoy.

Well you shot down games already just look at reviews and upcoming games list.

http://www.metacritic.com/
http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/calendar.aspx

And the ps3 line-up has over 100 exclusives.

 

[shatnershaman]

Yeah, that's great. This isn't [entirely] about the money. It's about the multiplayer. I want games I can play by myself and have a good time with. Not ones I have to play with other people to enjoy.

Well you shot down games already just look at reviews and upcoming games list.

http://www.metacritic.com/
http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/calendar.aspx

And the ps3 line-up has over 100 exclusives.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Shadow Tyrant doesn't have a PS3 but has a 360.

EDITamn it you have to copy the links not click.

 

[Alphavillain]

I think the core of a game's appeal SHOULD be the single player campaign. I still think most games cater to single player enough, though.