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Bulletinmybrain

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Isaac Dodgson said:
...Shadow, did you come here really looking for help or to just ***** and moan?

Honestly we've all thrown a boat load of advice at you, backed each other up, added counter points and different angles for you to approach the problem, suggested games, suggested solutions, even broke down the actual cost of it all and still you shoot everything down and cry fowl against the gaming industry for not listening to you, the poor unnoticed platformer/fps gamer (as most single player games are either of these two).

Now you're entitled to your own opinion, but how jaded can you be to not even be interested in more than half the games we've suggested, or not take the time to look into the others you haven't played yet. Kobb's suggestion about making a project out of running the cable through your house through the walls, floor, or just clipping it to the wall would keep the cord out of the way, and be rather cheap if you went with the clips, hell it's a project I'm considering now that I think about it.

I'm also a college student like Kobb, so I know damn well how tight my wallet can get from time to time... Do you work enough hours though? Do you even work? I'm not trying to insult, but rather understand your psyche about this entire thing. Save some money, stop wasting it on new titles, and go buy yourself the hard drive, a live subscription and appreciate the things you have even more, and if you can't bring yourself to do that, then just quit buddy, you're not going to be happy with anything else much less our solutions.
Exactly what I wanted to say but I didn't want to a ass to say it. Thank you?
 

Shadow Tyrant

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Isaac Dodgson said:
...Shadow, did you come here really looking for help or to just ***** and moan?
Actually, I came here to discuss things, but whatever.

Honestly we've all thrown a boat load of advice at you, backed each other up, added counter points and different angles for you to approach the problem, suggested games, suggested solutions, even broke down the actual cost of it all and still you shoot everything down and cry fowl against the gaming industry for not listening to you, the poor unnoticed platformer/fps gamer (as most single player games are either of these two).
I have not shot down everything. There are quite a few games that I want to play that have been mentioned in this thread. Of course, there's another list of games I want to play but can't because the single player sucks, or just makes you feel pathetic for not having friends.

Now you're entitled to your own opinion, but how jaded can you be to not even be interested in more than half the games we've suggested, or not take the time to look into the others you haven't played yet. Kobb's suggestion about making a project out of running the cable through your house through the walls, floor, or just clipping it to the wall would keep the cord out of the way, and be rather cheap if you went with the clips, hell it's a project I'm considering now that I think about it.
I didn't actually see the suggestion about clipping cables to the wall, but. See, the way my house is set up (It's a painfully small house. Yet there's still me, my mom/stepdad, and their offspring, two dogs and two cats. It's a fucking nightmare. Anyway.), there's a computer desk on one side of the wall where the router is, and then across the room (Which is about 10 feet away) there's the stand with the game TV on it and the games underneath. But the consoles are underneath in the cabinet, which is enclosed and impossible to get into without moving all the shit out from in front of it (Which I have to do every time I want to change games), or going in the tiny hole for wires behind the TV. So to prevent tripping on cables, I would have to run it from behind the computer desk (Which has a back, so I'd have to run it through that and then up the wall, but the computer desk is so piled with papers that I can't even see the monitor, let alone behind it. I had to move the router on top of the monitor because the signal was being blocked.), over the ceiling, and then back down behind the stand with the game TV on it (Which also has a backing, and is about six feet high) and into the cabinet where my 360 is. If it were up to me, I'd just trash everything on that desk, but my parents insist on keeping all of it but never sort through any of it, because "What's the point if the computer doesn't even work?" (I'm on a laptop, ftr. Hence why I can't get online with PC games because my laptop is shit.) So I really can't get online unless I get the wireless for the time being.

I'm also a college student like Kobb, so I know damn well how tight my wallet can get from time to time... Do you work enough hours though? Do you even work? I'm not trying to insult, but rather understand your psyche about this entire thing. Save some money, stop wasting it on new titles, and go buy yourself the hard drive, a live subscription and appreciate the things you have even more, and if you can't bring yourself to do that, then just quit buddy, you're not going to be happy with anything else much less our solutions.
No, I've tried getting a job but no one wants to hire me because I'm a failure at everything apparently. I don't buy "New titles" unless I really think they're going to be good or know so. In fact, I bought Ninja Gaiden 3 for the NES a few weeks ago off the VC. Unless you mean 'new' as in 'stop buying games.' In which case I could agree with you, but the most recent games I've gotten have been from Goozex [http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/join.asp?idr=553903162726], so I'm not actually spending money on games. (And on a sidenote if you decide to sign up I would appreciate it if you mentioned me as your referrer.)

I really didn't ask for "suggestions and advice," as I already know my current situation and the solutions for it, and I already had a (albeit small) list of games I wanted to play. Though I do appreciate the effort.
In short, I guess you could say I came here to ***** at the games industry, but is it really all that much to ask for better single-player campaigns? (Or multiplayer bots, as mentioned above?)
 

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Hello everyone. After reading this topic in disgust, I have created an account, then proceded to write the following message.

Yes, yes, you are right Shadow tyrant, you are a failure indeed. You know why?! Oh yeah you know why! You came here just to get atention. Really, Thats the only purpose of this thread. I see through you, and seriusly, I see people like you every day. And you disgust me. With people like you, there are no solutions. Even if we punch obvious and simple solutions directly in your face. But you denied everything... You are a defeatist. And god, I cant stand people like you.

Firts, you whine there are not enough single player games. The comunity answer you and post tons of suggestions of GREAT single player games. And plus, theres tons and tons of them. But you refuse it...You hate 99% of the single player games on the market.

Then, people prove you thats its more profitable to pay for live than to pay 50$ every 2 days for single player games because they never last more than a freaking eight hours. But then again, you dont want to hear the solution. You cry, and you yell that you are too poor and you cant have it because the devil itself want you to suffer... Its the cats and dogs, its the mess in the house, its my parents, Nobody want me thus cant make money BLA BLA BLA. Everyone else is wrong and you are right... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

So yeah, you are still here, trying to ''argument'' with people trying to show them they are wrong and they dont understand you... YOU ARE THE DAMN PROBLEM. Grow up kid. You dont want to play online? fine, dont play online! Single players games are not good enough for you? Fine dont play them... But now Theres nothing else.

So what is the solution you ask? GET OUT! Get out of here. You got the atention you needed, now go breath some fresh air because, obviously, the gaming world is not for you. Damn emo.

PS: I speak french, so if stuff is not understandable...well too bad. Feel good to vent a little.
 

Shadow Tyrant

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daedrick said:
You hate 99% of the single player games on the market.
No. I don't. The only thing I said I disliked in this thread was Bioshock. How does hating one game (And I don't even hate it. I just found it average.) constitute hating all of them?

Then, people prove you thats its more profitable to pay for live than to pay 50$ every 2 days for single player games because they never last more than a freaking eight hours. But then again, you dont want to hear the solution. You cry, and you yell that you are too poor and you cant have it because the devil itself want you to suffer... Its the cats and dogs, its the mess in the house, its my parents, Nobody want me thus cant make money BLA BLA BLA. Everyone else is wrong and you are right... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?
No. I'm wrong a lot. The solutions in this thread are perfectly acceptable. The games, the ethernet cable. But I've already thought about most of them. I would do it if I could afford it.

Damn emo.
Who the fuck are you to judge who I am? Firstly, I'm not "emo," and secondly, it's just downright insulting to say so.


Again, this thread is not about me, despite the fact that most of you continue to make it so. Allow me to direct you to my original post, in which I asked the following:
Shadow Tyrant said:
where have all the good single-player games gone? Why do producers think every person who plays their games has friends to play it with? Are we moving into an age where you won't be able to play a game without having another person to play with you? When is this trend going to end?
Where, in any of those questions, does it say "Help me improve my situation?" I know how to fix my problems. I just can't right now. If you don't like this thread, quit fucking posting in it. Let it die.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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ST: heres what you can do. Get a 30-50 ft ethernet cable plus tape..Get your modem what7 out the fuck of the mess..Then attach said cable into the back of the modem. Then proceed to lead the cable up the wall using tape to attach it.(or wall clip things..70 then go across the ceiling doing it when you reach a doorway get the cable tight do the same then coutiun on the walls and ceiling..When you get to your closet whatever the buttfuck it is put a airhole in the ***** move the stuff out front attach said cable and then your done...
 

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Aries_Split said:
Decoy Doctorpus said:
Man. Pc games are totally made for people with a mouse. For those who don't have a mouse, like me, pc games suck. I wish developers would make more games for people without mice.
I have a laptop too, and I have a mouse. Just go pick up a 40 dollar wireless mouse.
No see I was taking the piss. I do have a mouse.
 

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Shadow Tyrant said:
And to this list:
Bioshock - Like I said, played it, thought it was lame.
Mass Effect - Watched my friend play it, it wasn't all that exciting.
Assassin's Creed - I'm looking into this game, though again the problem is a lack of funds.
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Not really into RPG's.
Dead Rising - I've heard a lot of good things about this game, and I really should look into it. I just haven't.

Grand Theft Auto IV - Have it, love it.
Crackdown - Admittedly I'm not sure what this game is about.
Burnout Paradise - I already have Burnout 3 and while this is supposedly better, one racing game with fantastic crashes is good enough for me. The next racing game I'm going to get is Grid, if any.
Battlefield: Bad Company - Was looking at this game, too, but again, Lack of funds.
Gears of War - See above, but add in everyone I talk to either loves it or hates it. No in between.
Call of Duty 4 - Own it. Got boring after the first two times played through.
I think I've found your problem all the games you said you were not interested in are single player only. and the ones you say you were interested in are actually the most online orientated especially Bad Company the single campaign is about 4 hours long. DICE always focus on multipalayer and don't pay much attention to the single campaign at all. maybe your just one of those difficult people or it's a case of wanting what one can't have?

Bulletinmybrain said:
shatnershaman said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
shatnershaman said:
Shadow Tyrant said:
And the ps3 line-up has over 100 exclusives.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Shadow Tyrant doesn't have a PS3 but has a 360.

EDIT:Damn it you have to copy the links not click.
Hey I gotta get my jabs in on a 360 fanboy when I can.
How exactly does owning a console make them a fanboy for the console?
 

daedrick

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Shadow Tyrant said:
Again, this thread is not about me, despite the fact that most of you continue to make it so.
Yes, yes, prove my point. Everyone else fault, not your fault. You read others post, but you dont understand what they are writing. You really doesnt seem to be bright at all let me shorten it for you.

long story short: There is plenty, no wait, TONS of GREAT offline games. RPG, RTS, FPS, Simulator... for every freaking taste. OLD, NEW AND INCOMING.

Stop whinning and throwing faults on everything else. ( if you dont understand what Im refering to, please, read your posts again, its full of it. )

They are there, open you eyes and Shut your mouth. ( the solutions to your questions/problems )

That is all.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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zirnitra said:
Shadow Tyrant said:
And to this list:
Bioshock - Like I said, played it, thought it was lame.
Mass Effect - Watched my friend play it, it wasn't all that exciting.
Assassin's Creed - I'm looking into this game, though again the problem is a lack of funds.
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Not really into RPG's.
Dead Rising - I've heard a lot of good things about this game, and I really should look into it. I just haven't.

Grand Theft Auto IV - Have it, love it.
Crackdown - Admittedly I'm not sure what this game is about.
Burnout Paradise - I already have Burnout 3 and while this is supposedly better, one racing game with fantastic crashes is good enough for me. The next racing game I'm going to get is Grid, if any.
Battlefield: Bad Company - Was looking at this game, too, but again, Lack of funds.
Gears of War - See above, but add in everyone I talk to either loves it or hates it. No in between.
Call of Duty 4 - Own it. Got boring after the first two times played through.
I think I've found your problem all the games you said you were not interested in are single player only. and the ones you say you were interested in are actually the most online orientated especially Bad Company the single campaign is about 4 hours long. DICE always focus on multipalayer and don't pay much attention to the single campaign at all. maybe your just one of those difficult people or it's a case of wanting what one can't have?

Bulletinmybrain said:
shatnershaman said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
shatnershaman said:
Shadow Tyrant said:
And the ps3 line-up has over 100 exclusives.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Shadow Tyrant doesn't have a PS3 but has a 360.

EDIT:Damn it you have to copy the links not click.
Hey I gotta get my jabs in on a 360 fanboy when I can.

How exactly does owning a console make them a fanboy for the console?

Well i'm a fanboy of the ps3 cause M$ finally pissed me off as to switch. Now as far as shatner goes he has said hes a fanboy and me and him argue in a very illogical/logical manner. It adds flavor to threads.
 

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Bulletinmybrain said:
Well i'm a fanboy of the ps3 cause M$ finally pissed me off as to switch. Now as far as shatner goes he has said hes a fanboy and me and him argue in a very illogical/logical manner. It adds flavor to threads.
Conflict is the spice of life (try watching a movie without it, boring).
 

Shadow Tyrant

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daedrick said:
You read others post, but you dont understand what they are writing.
No, that's you apparently. I said the thread's not about me. Stop posting about me. I also said if you don't like the topic, let it die. And yet you're still here. Go flame someone else.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Shadow Tyrant said:
daedrick said:
You read others post, but you dont understand what they are writing.
No, that's you apparently. I said the thread's not about me. Stop posting about me. I also said if you don't like the topic, let it die. And yet you're still here. Go flame someone else.
Would you read my step by step guide near the bottem of page 3 to hooking up a ethernet cable dammit!?
 

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It's probably cheaper to make multi-player games because a you only need to make a dozen or so maps and thats it where as a campaign would require many more.

But for good Solo games
Mass Effect is longer than 9-hours and Pretty replayable
Overlord
Crackdown
TES4:Oblivion
Beautiful Katamari
Assassin's creed
Dead Rising
The Orange Box(TF2 excepted)

All of these are excellent games that are solo-oriented and I enjoyed all of them

There's probably more but those are ones that I actually own.

But I do understand your position, I play on live but while multi-player can be great it should be taking a backseat to the single-player portion, rather than the current state of things, where the campaign is little more than an extended tutorial.
 

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Shadow Tyrant said:
So everyone is raving about these fantastic awesome super fabulous games like Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, and what have you. But the best aspect of 90% of the best games today is "The great multiplayer," which is, of course, usually experienced over Live (Or the PSN network and the Wii's thing). Well, that's great and all, but how am I supposed to enjoy a game if I can't play the best part of it? It really kind of ticks me off that developers now focus more on the multiplayer than they do the single player. Even upcoming games like Fable 2 focus intensely on co-op. And while it still has a huge single-player campaign and I plan to buy it and enjoy it immensely, I still feel like I'm missing out on a chunk of it just because I can't afford to give Microsoft all my money. So I ask you, good people of the internet, where have all the good single-player games gone? Why do producers think every person who plays their games has friends to play it with? Are we moving into an age where you won't be able to play a game without having another person to play with you? When is this trend going to end?
Well, as far as I know... It seems that the only problem you have is with Microsoft, so why did you feel the need to lump in the PSN and Wii players?? Theirs is freeeee
 

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I don't agree with the thought of Multiplayer being as important as everyone thinks. I have Live, or rather, I had Live thanks to the free trial membership I got with GTA IV, and even so I don't think there's much too it. I liked playing COD4 online but I play the singleplayer more often. And I don't know about you, but I hear Bioshock, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, and singleplayer aspects to Metal Gear Solid mentioned more often than Frontlines: fuel of war, and Enemy Territory: Quake wars. Now I know about Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike but those are PC games...no Live required, no need to sit though that 30 minute long registration process(I faked all my details, except the e-mail).

Live really isn't that expensive to begin with, and the accessories come with the console if you got the pro or elite version, but I don't plan on upgrading my silver membership anytime soon.

Edit: Shadow Tyrant, you mentioned you only use wireless internet connections. You CAN connect to live via Wi-Fi without buying the wireless network adapter; I've done it. You just need an Ethernet cable and a wireless Windows based PC. It's pretty technical, but Microsoft has directions for it on their Xbox website.
 

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Lucky you. I'm still trying to figure out how to install B&W2 on Vista without admin permissions.