I don't play on a PC so suck it!

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The best thing I've found about PC is that the community (not in game, but on forums) are usually so much frendlier. When I came to build my first PC a few years back I signed up to a few PC gaming sites and with the help of about 20 users I got a list of nice parts for their lowest prices. I built my PC with a little more help from said users and a while back when it died they helped me troubleshoot it. Now here I am one of those people on the forums who helps people decide what to throw in their machines.

Come to ask help for your 360 or PS3 and you're told to just get the other, more superior console. If you come asking for help with a Wii? Well you're just laughed out of the thread. There's no unity in the console crowd. They're too busy fighting with themselves most of the time and threads like 'My Xbox red ringed! Should I...' will be flooded with PS3 owners telling them they should get a PS3. Likewise someone who complains about their PS3 will be told to go and get a 360 instead.

I'll now list the benefits of building and gaming on a PC:

- Turn the ***** into a Media Centre. I've got two 1TB hard drives. One has a 200Gb partition for the usual crap and the rest of the disk is near enough games. The other has almost every DVD in my collection and a few Blu-rays. My house is networked so the little box downstairs can stream any of our movies to our TV at any time. Bye bye DVDs.

- Learning a new skillset. I admit when I came to building my first PC I was well versed with MS Office and that was it. It took about two ir three weeks of research and with help from the internet I learned what components did what; what all the confusing little numbers mean and how to look for compatible components.

- Save cash. It'll cost about £400 - 500 (let's say about $500 - $600) to build your first PC. A big investment. But then the point is you will have a nice PC that can do more than jut game. Games themselves are about $/£10 cheaper than console games, this isn't even taking into account Steam special offers. It won't take long before you redeem the excess you put into your PC; as opposed to buying a console.

There are plenty more and you're probably sick of reading them over and over, so I tried to put a couple unique ones in. I have a PS3, PC and a Wii with a decent library for each. I'm not exclusively a PC gamer. PC = Best online interaction. PS3 = Best offline play. Wii = Best party games.

EDIT And just to dispel the myth here, PC gaming is nowhere near as expensive as people say. You won't need to upgrade for a couple year; even still you can make it an easier affair by keeping an eye of sellers and buy when the prices are low. My current PC cost £525. I kept the RAM from my old PC, bought some cheaper RAM for it and then sold my old PC to my mate who just wants to play L4D and CS.
 

4li3n

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rvzero said:
Laptops, I like to take my PC with me.
I personally know 2 people that had gaming laptops and the heat broke them... and you could have gotten a better tower with the same money, or even a bit less.



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4li3n said:
And also why we always put our backup files in a seperate folder.
You'd think that would be enough... but sometimes you screw them up anyway somehow...
In a seperate folder on a seperate hotswap harddrive that you keep in a safe except for adding or copying backup files along with the CDs you've burn extra copies to...

Oh wait... that's how I keep my porn protected. Default files? fuck'em.
But that's my point, having to treat mods like i do porn is just to complicated (and sticky).
 

4li3n

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Fluffles said:
'can't make or do this on a console...
Which is what I do, hence that being made by me. Both the map and the gametype :D

Oh yeah, this was what made listening to all the "PC gaming is Dead" that much funnier... ALL YOUR GAMES ARE MADE ON A PC console fanboys...

But my personal fav was about how this gen will be superior to any PC for more then 6 months... when most of the tech comes from nVidia, ATI, Intel etc...
 

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Cole Sauer said:
ive have a bunch of friends who play PC and they think that consoles are worse and so im like screw that but i also see that there are alot of reviewers who also use pc and im just wonadering... whats so special about PC?
For one, the keyboard and mouse are a better control interface. There's an entire catalog of PC games that currently couldn't be played on any console, because of the limitations that gamepads have. For instance, what's the last RTS, or FPS-RPG you've played? The few games in those genres that are available on consoles, have been greatly simplified, and don't offer the same experience as their PC counterparts.

Another thing is mods. Mods can greatly increase the lifespan of a game, and they're the reason why some decade old PC games still have devoted fanbases, like Morrowind, or Warcraft III.

Lastly, it's convenient. I can use a PC to perform a wide range of tasks, beside gaming, so why would I want a gaming-exclusive console? Personally, there are few titles that interest me on consoles, and the ones that do are single-player ventures with little to no replay value, and that alone don't justify the purchase of said console.
 

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Sephael said:
I bought it used (1/2 months old) for around 3/4th of the original price. The key to using "medium" settings is to compromise.
I use lower resolution than my native, i usually turn off the shadows or keep them at minimum and turn off AA, as these are the most FPS-hogging settings for me.

Other than that, anything runs fine, e.g. Bulletstorm and Mass Effect 2 on medium settings.
For the reference, I've got a dual core 2.0, 256mb nvidia quadro nvs 320m but running on 8700GT drivers, as it's mostly the same card, and a crappy 5400 HDD (I suppose a 7200rpm would make it much snappier).
Hang on, maybe I misread you. Did you say it was a laptop or a desktop? I figured laptop for some reason, but that doesn't sound like stuff you'd even get in one, let alone for anything like the price you quoted. I can believe it still being able to play contemporary titles as you can probably still find machines with a similar specification right down at the ultrabudget end of the market.
(I mean... my specs vs yours: 1.73 single core (and architecture level at least one, probably two steps down from the "Core"-branded chips), 512mb and 40mb 5400? 4200?rpm disc at time of purchase, and i915 graphics. It's a different planet)

You'd MAYBE have squeaked that in a desktop, if the original owner had forgone the monitor, got a good price, and been generous/vague about what they were knocking off when passing it on to you. In a laptop... no chance. $2000+ alienware maybe, if at all.

BTW 5400 vs 7200 hard disk really doesn't matter unless you get bored very easily by loading times and have a properly high-speed interface, or you're hurting for RAM. I have put a high-speed replacement disc in mine, but that's because I work with a lot of large files and so need something with high continual throughput and slightly quicker random seek times.
I'm surprised that running at less than native resolution makes any difference though, I thought most modern cards had sufficient shaderage to make output rez pretty much irrelevant; it's all the T&L, poly/normal counts, SFX etc that make the massively parallel GPUs work hard. Heck, even I see only the barest difference in FPS between 800x600 and 1024x768 (which is the native rez of the built in screen), almost a 2/3rds increase in pixel area.

So, if I got that wrong, my apologies ;)
 

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It's a laptop actually, HP 8710p, and my apologies its 4years old right now :) I suppose the GFX card was insanely good for the times when it was released, which is why its still holding up quite well.
 

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4li3n said:
Sleep mode says "Hi!"


And it's funny that as a PC gamer i find the "Press Start" screen to annoy me as too much time wasted... i guess turning on the PC while i do something else around the house is just second nature already.
Yeah, I said it was my personal preference, and sorry, I'm one of those people who likes to "save energy", so sleep mode seems a little wasteful for me. I don't even leave my TV on standby, nor do I leave the tap running when I brush my teeth. I know it's probably not making much of a difference, but it's a force of habit.
 

SageRuffin

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I grew up with consoles, and all my favorite games are on consoles. I can't use or decipher a keyboard interface worth a damn.

Hell, I can barely type correctly. I can't tell you how many typos I cranked out just from creating this sentence. D:

PCs are powerful, don't get me wrong. I've got a custom built one that I've upgraded myself (new video card, extra tb hard drive, liquid cooling, and larger-watt power supply). Set me back a couple hundred dollars of course, but it does everything I need it to and then some.

PCs have their strengths of course, but I'm more than happy with consoles. Thank you.
 

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The modifiability of almost any game, you can change any aspect of almost any game to add and create something new and special. There are tons of Fallout 3 addon's that to be honest actually make a stagnant game fun for me again, because they are freaking brutal.
 

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Cole Sauer said:
ive have a bunch of friends who play PC and they think that consoles are worse and so im like screw that but i also see that there are alot of reviewers who also use pc and im just wonadering... whats so special about PC?
Because playing on a console is akin to playing on a 6 year old PC? Because Consoles require a TV to function? Because A pc is much more convenient and is multipurpose? Because mouse&keyboard is superior to a controller for almost every purpose? Isn't that reason enough?
 

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Mazty said:
Cole Sauer said:
ive have a bunch of friends who play PC and they think that consoles are worse and so im like screw that but i also see that there are alot of reviewers who also use pc and im just wonadering... whats so special about PC?
They tend to be far, far, far more powerful, do more and the games tend to run better. And of course a mouse and keyboard is a far better set up for some games e.g. FPS', and you can use a pad or wheel for racing. Best of all worlds.
while that is true couldnt a console be more powerful than a PC, especially if it isnt a gaming PC plus couldnt you use a pad and or a wheel to race on a console too?
 

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stinkychops said:
icame said:
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PCs have better multiplayer, graphics, modabilty, and Steam. But it is slightly more expensive. I don't do PC Gaming any more since I don't have a good computer for it and would rather not use my brothers if anything bad happened.
Slightly? BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Well considering how many non-pcgamers buy excessively powerful machines to run Microsoft Word on... yes slightly. Do you own both a computer and a console?
Yes. Pc's pretty good too. If I just upgraded the graphics card I can probably max most of the games out right now.
 

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Mazty said:
Cole Sauer said:
Mazty said:
Cole Sauer said:
ive have a bunch of friends who play PC and they think that consoles are worse and so im like screw that but i also see that there are alot of reviewers who also use pc and im just wonadering... whats so special about PC?
They tend to be far, far, far more powerful, do more and the games tend to run better. And of course a mouse and keyboard is a far better set up for some games e.g. FPS', and you can use a pad or wheel for racing. Best of all worlds.
while that is true couldnt a console be more powerful than a PC, especially if it isnt a gaming PC plus couldnt you use a pad and or a wheel to race on a console too?
.............You have to compare a gaming PC to a games console as both are meant for gaming. What is the point of comparing an office PC to a games console? That's like comparing a PS1 to a super computer - just pointless and clearly biased.
You can't use a mouse &keyboard on a PS3/Xbox etc for gaming.

PC is easily the best thing for gaming. More expensive, but far, far more powerful, more reliable and does a whole lot more.
Yeah, I'd have to agree here. PCs can be buffed up to levels far beyond consoles, even if consoles come with a baseline. This alone makes the PC a versatile beast.

Other than this, there are plenty of uses for a PC other than gaming, which can hardly be said for consoles (Sony's extra OS bullshit, anyone?).

There's also the fact that I grew up with a computer. I remember playing on an old Atari before my first Sega Genesis, and around then I had upgraded to my first Windows machine.
 

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yeah, but your not expected to do such a thing. i can't think of a comparison to the situation so you find one
 

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TEMHOTA said:
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Can't believe this guy went on for four pages about Little Big Planet, Wow... great game, but compared to PC exclusives like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Cryostasis, The Void or even Minecraft. LOL The can't be serious can he?



Nah... Couldn't be, no one is that thick, good joke sir... Well played.
No I didn't go on about LBP for 4 pages, people kept on quoting me and I had to re explain my opinion again and again and again
You ever heard of that? An opinion? Wow I can't believe this guy likes S.T.A.L.K.E.R more than LBP, not sure if he's serious or not, nah he's not serious its impossible for anyone to have a differant opinion than me /sarcasm
In fact I'd just about finished arguing with those guys before you had to bring it up again and outright insult my opinion.
But I should know better than to express an opinion thats differant to the escapist masses...
 

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4li3n said:
Oh yeah, this was what made listening to all the "PC gaming is Dead" that much funnier... ALL YOUR GAMES ARE MADE ON A PC console fanboys...
Making games != playing games.

Really, making games can be a fun and rewarding kind of work, but it's not like playing games. At all.

I like how these days PC games are made with lower graphics requirements since they usually need to run on a console as well. Everybody wins.
 

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Kakulukia said:
You have to upgrade it every year instead of every 5-6 years.
I havnt upgraded my PC for gaming in 3 years and dont plan on doing it until it wont run games. and at the rate the games are going that will be in another 2-3 years before it doesnt meet minimum requirements.
 

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I like being able to play games that the consoles can't handle such as ARMA 2. I also like the numerous mods you can have for the PC. However there are also things I prefer on the console like FIFA, and certain sandbox games like GTA4. There's certain games that feel more natural with a keyboard + mouse, as well as with a controller. In the end it's all just a matter of which do you prefer.