I HATE rich people...

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Richness isn't indicative of being an asshole. It's just that power/money/prestige tends to corrupt.

If someone is rich and just goes about living the high life, I have no beef with that (hell, if I won the lottery, I'd probably just get a small condo and play/make games all day). If someone is rich and donates time or money to a good cause, that's great. If someone is rich and starts a new company and stuff, no problem.

The problem for me only comes when they forget that under the richness they are just like everyone else, and when they then start crushing those under them to get even more rich.

Like, there are billionaires who run huge businesses making them millions upon millions a year and donate to politicians who will expressly lower their tax rate at the cost of reducing services to the average person (say, defunding schools to make up the shortfall). There are billionaires who could afford to raise the wages of their workers to livable wages, but instead lobby to keep them as low as possible. There are rich people who even hide their money outside their country so that their tax money doesn't even go too people in their own nation.

It's these people I have a beef with. If you're rich, and pay what's fair to you and everyone else I don't care how rich you are or if you spend 13 million on an art-deco piece made from a melted fender. It's only when the rich shit all over the non-rich to benefit themselves that I get pissed.

*sidebar: What's "fair" to pay is NOT "everyone earns the same amount" or near that. I may lean left and I may lean socialist, but I'm not a damn communist. I'm fine with people who come up with some awesome invention getting rich off of it. I'm even fine with their kids being rich and inheriting from their parents. I just want them to contribute fairly to society. Like, if you're personally making 5 million every year, I think you can handle a tax that take 50% of what you earn after the first million.

 

[Erttheking]

Hating a general category based on limited personal experience just makes you the typical run-of-the-mill bigot. It doesn't matter what the subject of that bigotry is either, because it's going to be predictable, stir up a predictable response; boring people should be a hanging offense.

I like rich people. We're great. There are no words for how awesome we are.

Seriously though, people complain that rich people don't give their money to those who really need it, but that's true about anybody who ever bought a McDonald's meal instead of eating leftovers and donating the price of a Big Mac to charity. That money could have saved somebody's life, but no, you wanted that Big Mac.

I donated a few bucks to a charity to help the homeless the other day. And I'm 20,000 dollars in college debt.

I did my part. Let Richy Rich step up now.

You mean like Bill Gates, or Warren Buffet? You've got a lot of burgers to skip before you make that kind of impact.

Then just let them donate a few thousand dollars every once in awhile. That's the equivalent of donating a few bucks for them.

 

[Erttheking]

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Not specifically them. The rich in in general. I never answered your question

Well if I'll have fuck all impact and there's still so much injustice in the world then maybe they should step their game the hell up.

Oh it doesn't? I didn't know that. Oh wait yes I did. And I'm not about to suck the cock of Donald Trump, just because he COULD do so much more than me. I do what I can, which is little, and the majority of the rich just sit around and talk about how hard it is for them. While they're also running this country into the ground, slowly reducing the quality of life, and a multitude of other things I could talk about for hours, BUT I couldn't do as much as the rich. Which means fuck all if so little of them don't actually DO something.

 

[Sonmi]

Rich assholes exist just like poor assholes, or middle class assholes, they simply have more capacity to showcase said asshole behaviour due to having more financial capacities.

 

[sonofliber]

Honestly i hate more the guys that suck the cock of rich people, there are a few in this thread from the looks of it

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Hehe! Provocative title much? I can't really add anything that hasn't been said. Humans will be humans, but being rich can allow, and always will allow power. The repurcussions are only being significantly brought to light recently. I do hope more can learn to critically think and see past all the bullshit. I have met just as many assholes in the poorer side of life. What you'll find is that egos and other contributing factors help to fuel such personalities, rich or poor.

 

[Erttheking]

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Is that supposed to tell me something? Because I'm not seeing it.

 

[Vanilla ISIS]

I think that you would change your opinion on rich people if you became rich yourself.

I don't really understood it, how can rich people harm others then them more then poor people

Have you heard about this little incident called the 2008 financial crash?
Trillions of Dollars stolen, trillions more spent to bail out banks, millions of people left unemployed and in debt, stuff like that.
Poor people can't really do this much damage.

 

[Dango]

I've met some very wealthy people who were very nice to me, and I've met others who were total assholes.

I would say I'm in the upper middle class and I'd consider myself somewhere in the center of the niceness scale. I try not to look down on anyone regardless of whether they're rich or poor, since I have family on both sides.

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

How do you feel about rich people? Do you hate them all? Do you feel most of them carry themselves in a certain way?

There are magnitudes of "rich" that are too diverse to really attempt to answer this question - I think that's been pointed out already so to elaborate...

There are "We can spend two weeks in the country when our family vacations at a location we either own or partially own" rich folks who are by and large normal people who are either nice or jerks depending on personality and attract almost no attention from me except as I interact with them and their personalities are revealed.

There are "We spend much of our time vacationing and/or own a number of expensive cars and/or homes we are not using" rich folks who I am somewhat inclined to think of as wasteful, but do not have any particular ire towards them beyond thinking that they are being extravagant or flippant about their use of their resources.

There are "We don't work at all and we have many expensive luxury possessions that we may not even see to enjoy" rich people who I do think are absolutely wasteful with their resources and have some strong feelings about our society tolerating their excess with more good grace than I think it deserves.

Then there are "We don't work, we have many many expensive luxury possessions that we probably don't see to enjoy as they are so many we could not possibly be bothered with them all individually AND we have massive holdings in terms of the % of the world's wealth we control that we can't even hump back into the economy if we were even so inclined because they are so massive indeed" rich people - and these I do not hate, but I do not think they should be allowed to exist (not saying kill them, just saying we shouldn't have let it get to that point and should probably do something to reduce their wealth back to a sane level).

Finally there are "We don't work, we have ridiculous luxury items we might not even remember we have, massive holdings of wealth, a sickening percentage of the wealth of the world, and the political power that all buys" rich people... and those I do sort of hate, only in that I really think it's gone entirely too far there and they shouldn't be allowed to hold that much of the resources that exist and then wield them as they see fit when there are a whole lot of us that have to live under them for no other reason than that their ancestors managed to snatch up a majority holding and keep adding to it over the years.

 

[Joccaren]

Honestly the "They spend all their money on Ferraris rather than helping people" thing... Never got it.
How many people have a computer capable of playing games at home? Almost everyone reading this? Great, why did you waste money on that luxury instead of feeding Africa? You know, if everyone stopped buying luxury products, just the middle class, and put that money towards helping the world, we'd make a bigger difference than a couple of rich people doing it.

Problem is, rich people have more, so its easy to say they should do it, not us. Yet, honestly, we're in the same situation. Nobody wants to give up their luxuries. If you're struggling to make ends meet and mostly just being able to get food on the table, then yeah, there's no much more you could do. But usually a number of the people that complain about this have a decent car, widescreen TV, a nice house somewhere, and the subtext isn't that the rich should help the poor, but the rich should allow the middle class to have more luxuries.

Overall, I don't hate the rich. I hate assholes. If some guy is an asshole it doesn't matter how much money they have - they're a terrible person and I won't like them. If someone is a genuinely great person, it also won't matter how much money they had. They're a great person and I'd look up to them. I don't see any point in judging people based off the amount of money they have. Someone's character is independent of their fortune, and that's what I'd rather judge them on.

 

[Strazdas]

Rich people are people. Some are jerks, some are great, some are just regular joes in a fancy costumes.

I do think a lot of them are assholes that exploit and even outright bribe people to get their way, but not all of them. What i do see as a problem is second generation rich people, those who inherited rather than earned the wealth, because all too often they just waste it on variuos crap such as bribing police officers to let them get away with car theft.

 

[Julianos_Valentinus]

In general I kind of feel indifferent. People are people, some are good, some aren't. Money doesn't change that much IMO. That being said however, I do dislike (Hate is a very strong word after all) people who are arrogant, but only rich because they inherited their wealth. Whereas people who earned their money, well, I don't like their arrogance either, but they earned the right to be. And I dare say most people are just envious.

Concerning the Ferrari example posted. It's easy to tell others how to spend their money, but god forbid you tell them how to spend their own money. All hell breaks loose.

But at the end of the day I still won't care. Your rich and you want to use your money as toilet paper? Go ahead. It ain't any of my business.

 

[Tilly]

I dislike rich people who don't spend the money well. A lot of people see being rich as either something they deserved or just a happy accident. Whereas some see it as a responsibility.
If you're a billionaire and you're not spending serious amounts of money to try and improve the state of the world, I just can't like you as a person. You don't have to go as far as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Elon Musk and spend 95% of it. But I think any billionaire who's not actively contributing say 50% of it towards public projects, has a serious moral deficiency, and is creating the rationale for people who say we need bigger and bigger governments with more taxes.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

Rich people can be cool. They can also be jerks

Associate with the nice and don't associate with the not nice

Reasonable thinking? On the Internet? Not in MY forum!

I will say though that for some reason, we have an ingrained habit of hating rich people and writing them off as assholes if they do the slightest thing wrong.

 

[Nemmerle]

It's pointless to me to hate the people rather than the system that allows people to assume position of such a large disparity in power.

 

[Trunkage]

I don't begrudge people for being rich or poor. However, it's hard to hear rich people talk about how the poor are lazy or just "don't want it enough", or that the rich pay too much in taxes, or that the rich don't have enough say in how the country is run, or that the rich are somehow getting a shitty deal in general without wanting to smack said person across the face.

Hearing Donald Trump go on and on about how he's not "part of the establishment" would be laughable if so many people didn't sincerely believe it. And then there's people who run large Corporations and makes plenty of profit, who talk about how they can't afford to provide health insurance or raise the minimum wage for their employees.

I don't mind rich people.

If they are using money to specifically manipulate politicians to into giving them laws that would suit them, then I'm getting annoyed. If they are talking about those poorer then them and their 'low levels of effort' I get pretty cranky, especially when they are the ones controlling wages, literally making people poorer. It just reminds me of the Monopoly experiment where some people were given double the starting cash, extra turns, extra dice and even if they were the nicest person, many turned out like Trump, stating they deserved what they got, ignoring the significant advantage someone gave them.

I get towards mad when they make huge mistake like in the GFC and they expect us to bail them out. A year later, and most have paid back the loans but they haven't paid for the consequences of their damage. Also there is a couple of hundred thousand fraudulently created subprime loans that made the mess worse and no one went to jail on the lender (usually richer people) or customer side (usually poorer people).

I don't mind rich people, but if they are making the rest of us pay for their mistake or influence policies and change the rules of Capitalism for their own benefit (i.e. crony Capitalism) then I'm out. They can have every criticism levelled on them. Unfortunately, like the GFC, this hurt the entrepreneur that did the right thing just as much as those who did the wrong.