I need a good Training FPS
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I'm going to go a bit farther back than most people, and suggest that you get something from the early days of mouselook: Quake I, Shogo: Mobile Armor Division, the original Half Life and Duke Nukem 3D all come to mind. Reason being, those early games were designed so that they could be played entirely with the keyboard, and didn't actually rely much on looking up or down. As a result, they're good at training you to keep your Y axis fairly level except when you actually need to alter it to shoot at something above or below you. If there's one thing I've seen people not used to 3D camera controls struggle with, it's keeping their Y axis steady.
IIRC isnt the size of the baddies in quake 2 smaller than regular modern FPS games?
If so than that would help with the pointing and shooting also there isnt as many baddies to kill so she might have an easier time than with serious sam.
So she could play that first before moving onto SS
If so than that would help with the pointing and shooting also there isnt as many baddies to kill so she might have an easier time than with serious sam.
So she could play that first before moving onto SS
Call of duty 4 MW has a training area at the start, though come to think of it MW2 had a MUCH better one. It's uncommon to rare for games to have something equal to that. Most games just have on screen directions. I want something one can practice on strafing and aiming.Continuity said:
Strafing and aiming you'd definitely want one of the Quakes (Quake 3 would be my suggestion, even with just the demo. Your always moving, the bots are pathetic, but you still need to aim, even with the rockets), or for more modern day titles try Bioshock. You can make it up to the first Big Daddy without strafing too much, though you till still have to do it, but that Big Daddy MAKES you run. If you don't, you get a drill in you. Melee enemies are IMO the best training for strafe aiming, as the best way to kill them is to get away from them. The Immersion in Bioshock due to the story and atmosphere may also help; She will feel more as if SHE is in danger, and not just the player, and she will more closely follow natural reactions in such cases: Run like fuck.
Other than that, a full team of bots on Counter Strike set to only hold knives is good strafe aiming training. CS follows most aiming conventions - I.E: Jumping, running, climbing ect. reduces your accuracy - and the melee bots mean she won't be killed too easily. Running is the only way to defeat a full team of knife bots without using exploits that some maps have, otherwise they just surround you and you die.
So... yeah. Basically get her up against melee enemies, try out some of the more movement focused shooters (Quake and Bioshock) and just keep her playing. It will eventually happen.
Other than that, a full team of bots on Counter Strike set to only hold knives is good strafe aiming training. CS follows most aiming conventions - I.E: Jumping, running, climbing ect. reduces your accuracy - and the melee bots mean she won't be killed too easily. Running is the only way to defeat a full team of knife bots without using exploits that some maps have, otherwise they just surround you and you die.
So... yeah. Basically get her up against melee enemies, try out some of the more movement focused shooters (Quake and Bioshock) and just keep her playing. It will eventually happen.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest black ops online for the combat training I mean its gt everything she cd possibly need to become a compatant fps player, that or if she just wants a run n gun....Left 4 dead 
The original F.E.A.R. Sure the horror in that game sucks but it's not really a horror game, more like a shooter where little girls tries to scare you from time to time. The game got some of the most satisfying combat i have ever encountered in an FPS and probably the best enemy AI ever, the story is quite good too. Be sure to check out the "Extraction Point" expansion which improves pretty much everything, the combat, the environments and even the horror.
As a love letter to card-carrying hard-core-old-school FPS fans, it is absolutely wonderful.Djinn8 said:
But as a trainer, no.
It has a bit too many quirks and for a beginner it is just too hard, especially later in the game. You don't want to scare people off with a challenge that they are not ready to rise to.
I say:
Doom (with Zdoom sourceport)
then Half Life
And then Painkiller/Bioshock for different types of challenges.
+1 for this. She will learn very quickly the principles of strafing, and the game is just so much fun.Djinn8 said:
Also, Halo PC might not be a bad idea - again, a fun game, and the slow projectiles of the majority of the enemies will reinforce the strafing message from Serious Sam.
I'd personally say that UT and Quake might be too fast-paced and too reliant on mechanics such as bunny-hopping and double-jumping that may not be immediately obvious, or relevant to most mainstream shooters, though then again they could just be good fun and the presence of slow projectiles as well as instant hit weapons gives variety.
Modern 'so real' shooters would be unforgiving to a newcomer, I would expect, especially online. If she's struggling with the principle of strafing then they aren't going to help with that as it's not instinctively obvious that it would be of benefit against bullets if you haven't programmed in that reflex.
Playing online, say in TF2, might not be too bad an idea - point out how other people avoid incoming projectiles, see the benefits of not tanking all the pain, learn from example n all that.
My first FPS was Goldeneye, which I completed before learning that there even were buttons for strafing. Then I played some Jedi Knight, which didn't have mouse support and again didn't advertise the idea of strafing, but the slow blaster bolts introduced me to the idea of trying to avoid incoming fire. Playing Goldeneye with friends again, having discovered the joys of the C buttons and running circles around each other, I finally learnt the power of the strafe. Everyone needs to start somewhere - perhaps the key is making her understand the point before learning the action.
I came here to say that I very much disagree with the suggestion of CS:S. In my opinion, the gun behaviour, specifically the recoil and accuracy while moving, is way too specific to this game, so that good aim in CS:S can not be easily transferred to other FPSs. Instead I suggest playing the single-player of Quake 3 on a suitably easy difficulty setting.
I also don't recommend playing Quake Live, in my experience the 'average' or general skill level online is quite impressive, and for a newcomer, there could hardly be a worse experience than getting their arse handed to them in Quake. I speak from experience. Oh god, the memories overcome me..
I also don't recommend playing Quake Live, in my experience the 'average' or general skill level online is quite impressive, and for a newcomer, there could hardly be a worse experience than getting their arse handed to them in Quake. I speak from experience. Oh god, the memories overcome me..
Just to let you know, Jedi Knight definitely had mouse support, but as an early mouselook game, it was designed to be playable without one, and you had to manually check a box to turn it on. Dark Forces, the game that it was a sequel to, did not have mouselook -- at least in its original DOS incarnation; I've heard the Mac version had mouse support and ran at a higher resolution to boot. Jedi Knight actually falls right in with the other early mouselook games I suggested as training games; they really teach you how to keep your Y-axis steady, only moving it when you actually need to aim up or down, while also teaching movement basics. How many FPS newbies have we all seen with their guns permanently pointed at their feet?Wicky_42 said: