I think the only funny part is going to be when they get vanned and locked away for a long time.
They're criminals. For every good deed they do they steal and publicly display potentially life-altering information on thousands of people They're bastards, and that's all.Funkiest Monkey said:I think, that they are causing no real harm to any of us, and are actually quite funny. They do good deeds too: Such as hacking into the NHS (National Health Service), but then just emailing them to make them aware of the security vulnerabilities they found. Or when they entered a hacking contest, won it, and turned down the $10,000 prize.
They're not complete bastards. I mean, they're not 'Anonymous' for fucks sake.
EDIT: Oh, and it's just kinda funny to see what shit they do.
so they essentially just pay the ransom. that's bullshit. if i was twitter, i would be all the fuck over it. Maybe they are, who knows? doing something behind the scenes, but i would be trying to prosecute if i were them and i were being blackmailed like that. They are maybe not quite as big as sony, but surely they can get some government help if they are concerned. The governments of several countries seem to be quite amenable to pursuing hackers just now. Its just sad that that is the case, surely something can be done. Damn i hate lulzsec!Grey Walker said:A site that LulzSec uses is the last one that they'll hack. Twitter is protected from them by allowing them to use it for communication.intheweeds said:To a degree he's right. You wouldn't be laughing if they weren't broadcasting. No one would be as interested if they didn't have the whole taunting back and forth thing with the community. Again, I wonder how they still have the same twitter account? Shut down the twitter, shut down lulzsec. Sure they could still post on their website, but really who the fuck cares? People are following the stupid twitter antics. How lulzy would they really be if they only posted a few downloads on the website a few times a day and a list of ddos'd sites?JacobShaftoe said:You assume anyone needed telling to find funny things funny.Erana said:I doubt you would find all this malicious hacking funny if they hadn't told you to feel that way.
And when someone has to tell you to laugh, is it really that funny?
I like how you sat that their not bastards, comparing them to Anonymous, seemingly painting them as the bastard. Anonymous actual (not someone random saying 'I am part of Anonymous', but those who follow Anonymous's goals) stand for good things.Funkiest Monkey said:I think, that they are causing no real harm to any of us, and are actually quite funny. They do good deeds too: Such as hacking into the NHS (National Health Service), but then just emailing them to make them aware of the security vulnerabilities they found. Or when they entered a hacking contest, won it, and turned down the $10,000 prize.
They're not complete bastards. I mean, they're not 'Anonymous' for fucks sake.
EDIT: Oh, and it's just kinda funny to see what shit they do.
Thisbrandon237 said:Err... at least anonymous isn't currently releasing thousands of people's personal information and going on a hacking rampage for shitz and gigglez. They are a pain in the ass now, a first it was funny, now they are just a bad day machine. With no clue of what moderation is.
When the hell did THAT happen?Irriduccibilli said:release 62.000 Xbox users info.
Ya see here's the thing though, if you are using the same password for everything and leave yourself open to something like losing everything like that in one go round, you are kinda equally at fault by way of your own negligence. People feel far too secure online these days. They post personal information everywhere usually without so much as a second thought. They reuse the same password for all of their accounts and typically never change it.Mutilator7 said:Lulzsec are really funny.
...Until you lost your e-mail, xbox live, facebook, and paypal account.
They hacked Xbox live and took everything....how does that sound. Credit cards and all...yeah not funFunkiest Monkey said:I think, that they are causing no real harm to any of us, and are actually quite funny. They do good deeds too: Such as hacking into the NHS (National Health Service), but then just emailing them to make them aware of the security vulnerabilities they found. Or when they entered a hacking contest, won it, and turned down the $10,000 prize.
They're not complete bastards. I mean, they're not 'Anonymous' for fucks sake.
EDIT: Oh, and it's just kinda funny to see what shit they do.
As much as I'd like to believe that an individual CIA operative can access and use the tech necessary for tracing, I doubt that's the case. Chances are they aren't allowed to make a move unless they have orders. And they won't get orders to do so unless they can catch a large number or for certain get some leaders/top hackers.intheweeds said:its just the phone thing really, i know about the rest of the obfuscation. A disposable phone has no personal details attached to it, sure, but that why i say they can't be on the move, because any cell phone can triangulate its location these days. unless they're moving around all the time, couldn't they be found if one wanted to? not the average person mind you, but say - a pissed off CIA?Grey Walker said:For the hotline I'd guess a disposable cell phone, although that could easily just be movies. Assuming that the hotline was a phone, that is. I don't know.intheweeds said:i feel like the only reason they aren't in jail yet is because no one has bothered to find them. I mean come on, they have a friggin hotline! which apparently was shut down yesterday and now they have a new one. how the hell do you set up a truly 'anonymous' phone line? they can't be on the move constantly while hacking and tweeting and taking calls, how has no one found them? They simply must not be looking yet. I would imagine the feds at least in the states are too focused on Anonymous just now, but that's just a theory i have.Grey Walker said:But if they did that then it could be tracked to them and they could be identified as a member.YawningAngel said:Who cares? At least they TELL everyone what they do. Imagine if they just found out all this stuff and then started using it to rip your credit card off.
By posting it online for everyone to see they make it impossible for anyone using the information to be associated with LulzSec.
Proxies and bots can mask your IP address if you know what you're doing, and you would need pretty good tech and/or know-how to get past that mask.
That and these guys know what they're doing, as they have hacked government sites, which are the most paranoid and would likely have the best security.
Twitter working with the government to take down LulzSec would likely violate their user agreement to not share personal information, which would open a whole new can of worms as to how private our information is. If they did this then they would lose trust with all their other users, and they'd likely leave, allowing for competitors to move in, killing Twitter effectively.intheweeds said:so they essentially just pay the ransom. that's bullshit. if i was twitter, i would be all the fuck over it. Maybe they are, who knows? doing something behind the scenes, but i would be trying to prosecute if i were them and i were being blackmailed like that. They are maybe not quite as big as sony, but surely they can get some government help if they are concerned. The governments of several countries seem to be quite amenable to pursuing hackers just now. Its just sad that that is the case, surely something can be done. Damn i hate lulzsec!Grey Walker said:A site that LulzSec uses is the last one that they'll hack. Twitter is protected from them by allowing them to use it for communication.intheweeds said:To a degree he's right. You wouldn't be laughing if they weren't broadcasting. No one would be as interested if they didn't have the whole taunting back and forth thing with the community. Again, I wonder how they still have the same twitter account? Shut down the twitter, shut down lulzsec. Sure they could still post on their website, but really who the fuck cares? People are following the stupid twitter antics. How lulzy would they really be if they only posted a few downloads on the website a few times a day and a list of ddos'd sites?JacobShaftoe said:You assume anyone needed telling to find funny things funny.Erana said:I doubt you would find all this malicious hacking funny if they hadn't told you to feel that way.
And when someone has to tell you to laugh, is it really that funny?
Jack and Calumon said:They took down The Escapist for almost a whole day for shits and giggles. It was the tuesday just gone too and I couldn't access a message I had that TAUNTED ME SO MUCH!Funkiest Monkey said:that they are causing no real harm to any of us,
OT: I don't find them that funny. The NHS thing, and some other good things, fine, but when they take down websites and take away services from players, like how they keep taking down EVE Online, a game I don't even play, I physically can't find it funny.
Calumon: I didn't know bullying was fun now... : (
Whilst I understand your frustration, I had no choice but to correct what was obviously wrong.Jingai09 said:Yes. I agree. Disclosing tens of thousands of people's personal information is so hilarious. That will show people for ever putting faith in internet security. After all, it isn't Lulzsec's fault they're a group of mouth-breathing social rejects who have so little worth in their life that they resort to petty crime in order to get any satisfaction out of their miserable lives. No. It's the fault of big business. How dare they be so successful! How dare they live the traditional capitalist dream of making money and succeeding. They must be stopped from duping the general masses into buying terrible products or using sub-par services, because 98% of humanity is too stupid to think for themselves. Someone has to protect them.