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NoMoreSanity said:
Oh, and didn't CoD4 include a story comparable to HL2? Or was that me?
What there was was expertly told, no question, but it was rife with cliche. Plus, as much as I love Gaz and Price, they simply don't hold up to Gordon (might be unfair, as he's us, but then Soap and Jackson weren't as well pulled off), Alyx, Eli, Kleiner, Magnusson, Breen, that Vortigaunt from Ep2, et al in terms of believability.
 

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Blizzard and Valve, because it would be a blizzard sized MMO that wasn't designed for noobs and retards. Yes, I've played WoW (for a long time I might add) and its full of idiots. Worst part is that I find all of them as idiots and I don't seem like all that to most people, so imagine where it puts all of them. Then again in order to avoid offending all of you, hey at least you jumpped on the bandwagon once it got popular so I can't call you unpopular losers. No, that is only reserved for those of us in the gaming community who do nothing but play some game in every single second of free time we get. After all scheduling your life around raiding is cake for teenagers and finacially secure 40 year olds who joined because all of their childeren play. I seem to have gone off topic and apologise for my ramblings, I just can't help voicing my disgust of most of the people that I have met on the internet (and WoW in particular).
 

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Bungie and Blizzard...lots of good games made after each other, feedback would count for something, some creative ideas would occur, blah blah blah.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Fallout 3 on the Source engine would be much more appealing.
The source engine would have been a good idea.. 7 years ago.[/quote]

It still holds up. L4D looks better than Fallout 3 at any rate, and doesn't crash every 10 minutes.

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My copy of the game?

And Source is old as hell, it's not that good for expansive games like F3.
F3's engine wasn't very good for expansive games like F3. Fallout 3 was a great game, but it was nowhere close to being a technical masterpiece. Hell, every batch of DLC they put out broke the game some more.
 

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Bioware and Bethesda.
Well played good, sir. Bioware would provide great new IP and good dialogue, Bethesda would provide the open world, the graphics and missions.
Don't forget brilliant characters by Bioware, with equally brilliant actors to voice them, provided by Bethesda, of course.

No, wait. That counts as dialogue, doesn't it? I don't even know anymore.
Onward, to futility!
Cookie for guessing the character whom I quoted.
 
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AmrasCalmacil said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
AmrasCalmacil said:
Bioware and Bethesda.
Well played good, sir. Bioware would provide great new IP and good dialogue, Bethesda would provide the open world, the graphics and missions.
Don't forget brilliant characters by Bioware, with equally brilliant actors to voice them, provided by Bethesda, of course.

No, wait. That counts as dialogue, doesn't it? I don't even know anymore.
Onward, to futility!
Cookie for guessing the character whom I quoted.
You do realize that you mentioned Bethesda and brilliant voice acting in the same sentence, don't you? They are pretty much polar opposites.
 

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Well yes, it freezes sometimes and glitches but so does every game. And not every DLC is broken, Point Lookout works for me besides the rare freeze.
Actually, I don't think I've had a Source game crash on me. Or suffer the slowdown that Fallout 3 liked to grace me with occasionally.

Valve is well-known as a very technically proficient developer.

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You do realize that you mentioned Bethesda and brilliant voice acting in the same sentence, don't you? They are pretty much polar opposites.
Fallout 3 was a *great* leap forward for them. I'd say they were solidly in the middle of the pack.
 

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Blizzard and Infinity Ward. Always rumours they would team up to make an FPS when they both were under the Activision name.. maybe Starcraft Ghost :)

Bungie/MS and Activision. Bungie could learn to milk a series a bit more with Activisions help.

Midway and Capcom... cmon MK vs Capcom!!
 

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AmrasCalmacil said:
Bioware and Bethesda.
My thoughts exactly. The best story writing team meets the free roam and immersion experts... the awesomeness of the final product would be too much for the human race to handle.
 

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Croteam and 3D Realms.

C'mon, a Duke Nukem/Serious Sam crossover game would be AWESOME.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
orannis62 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Oh, and didn't CoD4 include a story comparable to HL2? Or was that me?
What there was was expertly told, no question, but it was rife with cliche. Plus, as much as I love Gaz and Price, they simply don't hold up to Gordon (might be unfair, as he's us, but then Soap and Jackson weren't as well pulled off), Alyx, Eli, Kleiner, Magnusson, Breen, that Vortigaunt from Ep2, et al in terms of believability.
Isn't Soap us to?
Why yes, and I addressed that in the parenthesis, as you notice. Yes, Soap (and, for that matter, Jackson) was a silent protagonist, but he didn't have the development [http://www.gamesradar.com/f/gordon-freeman-strongest-personality-in-gaming/a-20080118104744203035] necessary in an effective silent protagonist. There needs to be events which make us emotionally connected (think end of Ep2, Andrew Ryan's golf lesson and the immediate aftermath in Bioshock, etc). I can count three in Cod4, each one with a different character as them (nuke, MacMillan's injury, Gaz's execution [entire scene, but that part in particular]), which might be enough were it not for the fact that all three come just before you stop playing as their respective character, meaning that as soon as you begin to feel a connection, it's over. The intensity of the combat made us not notice the lack of this, but when dissected after the fact, you notice that it's true.

Note, this is not to say CoD4 is a bad game by any measure. I'm just pointing out that, from a story perspective, there's better out there.
 

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Mookie_Magnus said:
Square-Enix and Valve...

Just imagine the pure awesome.
A first person RPG where none of the main characters communicate beyond looking angsty while the screen flashes white? I think this choice needs a rethink :D

(Nothing against them individually...)
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
BloodSquirrel said:
NoMoreSanity said:
Well yes, it freezes sometimes and glitches but so does every game. And not every DLC is broken, Point Lookout works for me besides the rare freeze.
Actually, I don't think I've had a Source game crash on me. Or suffer the slowdown that Fallout 3 liked to grace me with occasionally.

Valve is well-known as a very technically proficient developer.
Really? Cause the long as all hell load times for Half-Life 2 would say otherwise.
In my experience, the load times in HL2 were only a few seconds. The in-game ones were even shorter. Even so, load times are not a real factor of technical proficiency. Performance and stability are.

I think we might not be on the same page here. Are you talking about the console versions of the games? FO3 is better (On the technical side) and HL2 is worse (Again, on the technical side) for the console versions as opposed to the PC versions. Every single Valve game I own for the PC runs with rock solid stability, but Bethesda games? I can't even finish Oblivion because it crashes every twenty minutes.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
I agree with that. But compared to previous CoDs 4 was the best in characterization. Let's hope they make it better in 2.
Quite true, although I don't think that, being history retellings, characterization was exactly a focus for the first games. And yes, here's hoping that 2 is better (am I the only one psyched that Soap will be this game's Price?) on that front.
 

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Bungie and Valve... then the flame wars can shut up.

Bungie's dedication to the fanbase combined with Valve's extra attention has to be worth something.
 

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Valve's extreme polish and Bethesda's incredible world-building.

Would be amazing.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
orannis62 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
I agree with that. But compared to previous CoDs 4 was the best in characterization. Let's hope they make it better in 2.
Quite true, although I don't think that, being history retellings, characterization was exactly a focus for the first games. And yes, here's hoping that 2 is better (am I the only one psyched that Soap will be this game's Price?) on that front.
Well I don't remember the past games so I wouldn't say.

And yes, I'm excited for that as well, mainly because we'll get some looks into Soap's personality.
Agreed. It'll be interesting to play the first MW again once we know Soap's personality. Here's hoping they don't fuck up on that. Come on, IW, make him like Gaz!

Did I mention that I liked Gaz?