That is all fine and dandy but it doesn't obligate anyone to tell you anything.SonOfVoorhees said:Yes they are obligated. Because for me, regardless of their operation, i will see that girl as a guy still.
That is all fine and dandy but it doesn't obligate anyone to tell you anything.SonOfVoorhees said:Yes they are obligated. Because for me, regardless of their operation, i will see that girl as a guy still.
Actually, according to this "science side" you are referencing, sex is defined by your body structure.Melopahn said:Sex is defined by your chromosomes and the fact that you changed your look doesn't change that chromosome.
Aside from the science side,
I like it!Innegativeion said:Actually, according to this "science side" you are referencing, sex is defined by your body structure.Melopahn said:Sex is defined by your chromosomes and the fact that you changed your look doesn't change that chromosome.
Aside from the science side,
That is, if you have a vagina you're a woman, if you have a penis you're a man.
Chromosomes determine how a body's cells will go about structuring themselves. XX means the cells will arrange female organs, and produce more estrogen that testosterone. XY means more testosterone and male organs. But the chromosomes themselves don't actually do anything in this regard, they are essentially just the instructions.
Think of it this way; someone starts making a loaf of bread, by reading a recipe. They have a dough mix set up, but someone puts in a lot of sugar and butter and some other ingredients. When the bread comes out, it's a cake. It tastes like cake, it has the consistency of cake etc. Would you call it a bread loaf, though, because the original instructions said it was so, even though said instructions are no longer adhered to?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH IT'S "intents and purposes"!!!!!axlryder said:For all intensive purposes,
Maybe we should just trade complete medical histories, including a detailed DNA map and current endochrine levels.Mortai Gravesend said:Do you tell people that kind of thing beforehand? Because you're totally obligated since someone might care. Or is that some kind of selfish one way double standard? If you care they need to say something, but I doubt you tell people every last thing they might care about.SonOfVoorhees said:Yes they are obligated. Because for me, regardless of their operation, i will see that girl as a guy still.
that sounds...Less than stable. You're saying that they should disclose due to an infirmity that appears to be yours.FolkLikePanda said:Yes, even if it is just a kiss on the lips, if I did that and then found out the person I kissed used to be a bloke/is a bloke/some kind of bloke, I would go bat shit crazy and attempt murder.
Yeah, I am exaggerating when I say that I would "atttempt muderer" but anyways to me I'd still see that person as male and so I wouldn't be too comfortable with the fact that I have kissed a bloke on the lips and so I would be quite annoyed with with the person for not telling me beforehand.Zachary Amaranth said:that sounds...Less than stable. You're saying that they should disclose due to an infirmity that appears to be yours.FolkLikePanda said:Yes, even if it is just a kiss on the lips, if I did that and then found out the person I kissed used to be a bloke/is a bloke/some kind of bloke, I would go bat shit crazy and attempt murder.
Since you seem to know your stuff medical wise I'm going to ask you a question. What kind of pleasure does one get from having sex with an artificial penis, since that thing cant feel anything? Wouldn't It be pretty much the same thing if I attached a pickle or something on my stomach and used that?CrystalShadow said:snip
Obviously you didn't see that "bloke" as a male a minute ago.FolkLikePanda said:Yeah, I am exaggerating when I say that I would "atttempt muderer" but anyways to me I'd still see that person as male and so I wouldn't be too comfortable with the fact that I have kissed a bloke on the lips and so I would be quite annoyed with with the person for not telling me beforehand.
I wouldn't know. I have nothing to hide. What, do you think I have something to hide? Why are you accusing me of having something to hide????Mortai Gravesend said:That sounds like it ought to satisfy most people. I mean privacy is for people with something to hide, right? -__-
An "artificial penis" in this case is one which uses normal tissue from the person in question, but is enhanced. It is sensate, but will have limitations to it, as the afforementioned erectile tissue issue.A Weakgeek said:Since you seem to know your stuff medical wise I'm going to ask you a question. What kind of pleasure does one get from having sex with an artificial penis, since that thing cant feel anything? Wouldn't It be pretty much the same thing if I attached a pickle or something on my stomach and used that?CrystalShadow said:snip
PS: This is a serious question, even though it might seem like trolling.
If you were the black person and found out that the blind person was indeed racist, would you be sad that you didn't get to have sex with him? If it was me, I certanly wouldn't be.lisadagz said:Actually, something that's occurred to me is that a lot of people are saying that some people don't feel comfortable about transsexuals and so transpeople are obligated to tell everyone, even if it's a one night stand, because their potential distaste of the matter would mean that they may then choose not to date/sleep with them.
I'm not entirely sure if I think this is a good or a bad argument but I'd just like to put this out there:
If a black person picks up a white person at a bar, and the white person is blind, do you think the black person should say "Oh, by the way, I'm black," out of respect for the possibility that the white person may be racist so that the racist person knows what they're getting into and can back out?
It just seems to me that transphobia is tolerated more than other kinds of prejudice, and I know it's more complex than just being born a certain colour or even with a certain kind of sexuality but it still stems from being born in a certain body with an opposing sense of self.
True, but when I find that they used to be a bloke then all of the things that makes them a woman go out of the window for me and I would be annoyed at them for not telling me that they were a bloke.Zachary Amaranth said:Obviously you didn't see that "bloke" as a male a minute ago.FolkLikePanda said:Yeah, I am exaggerating when I say that I would "atttempt muderer" but anyways to me I'd still see that person as male and so I wouldn't be too comfortable with the fact that I have kissed a bloke on the lips and so I would be quite annoyed with with the person for not telling me beforehand.