if you found an nude girl on the gorund (morality question)

Zanakanishi

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Fagotto said:
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Engarde said:
Do you honestly expect you will get a serious answer of anything other than help her? This doesn't seem like the kind of place for that...
There is a blacksheep in every comunity.. amongst all you goody goody gamers, there is bound to be "someone" that would do what you were all thinking deep down, you know, that thought that is creeping around behind your forced veiws of doing what society would consider the right thing... if you ignore what the world would WANT you to do, and let that little thing creeping around in the back of your head come out to play... the world would deffinatly be a... more interesting place.

But hey! no one could seriously think like that right? surely thats just impossible.
More like it's what we consider the right thing too. It can't always be everyone else that thinks it's wrong. And what I would want to do involves what I think is right, regardless of society.
Thats exactly my point, peoples veiws of whats right are placed by years of world development, your family teach you whats wrong and right, the media does, you learn some of it on your own... but still, someone placed that idea in your head, if they did not then we would be like our primal selves, for example the first decade of humans would have just raped her without hesitation, that is the base of the human mind, it is just clouded by the things we have learnt.
 

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Carry her piggy-back style!

OT: Dags is right, I'm not very strong, and carrying '100lbs' (pounds? really? How much is that in kilograms anyway?) would probably be rather straining. But hey, vulnerable person left in the street naked screams .... well, vulnerable. Which means that she needs my help, which I can't exactly give her out in the middle of a street with no access to transport or communication. But if I can carry her someplace with a phone (nearby house, my home, pay phone, whatever) then I can call an ambulance (I wouldn't leave her alone in the hospital obviously. It'd be awkward when she woke up (if she woke up), but I'm sure she'd appreciate having the person who brought her to the hospital there, as opposed to waking up without a proper explanation.
It's a little under 48 kilos. And as other have mentioned, as a rule of practice you don't move someone who isn't responsive and may have spinal or other damage. So all the people proudly proclaiming how they'd carry her to the hospital have failed the simulator. Your patient died of respiratory arrest because her spine got pinched when you moved her. Wtg, hero.
Or maybe that wasn't what was wrong with her. Maybe she'd been date-raped and left to die in this area that appears to lack any transportation or communication devices. If she had spinal injuries or other issues that moving her could trigger, then it would either be from being dumped there (in which case there will probably be obvious physical trauma that would make me not move her (like odd twists or posture from being thrown out of a car or whatever), or it already would have been triggered by someone arranging her ounconscious body to appear normal under the sheet), or she had the injuries prior to being dumped, meaning the actual process of carrying her/moving her to the spot, putting her on the ground and posuturing her probably would have triggered something. Either way, if she did have spinal issues, than it is more likely that they would have been triggered and she'd be dead than it is that I would trigger them by carrying her to a different location.

And given the situation, my options are
a) leave her to get help (which is a bad idea seeing as a naked girl lying on the ground is easy prey for others
b) do nothing (same problems as above)
c) take her to the help (which, yes, does risk triggering a prior injury, but at least doesn't leave her vulnerable to rapists, murderers, morons, etc) OR
d) do horrible things to her, which is both horrible, risks causing new injuries, and risks triggering older injuries.

So the best thing to do would be to a) not leave her AND b) get her help, which only one option does. But of course if there was an easy way to get help that didn't involve moving her, than sure, I'd do that. But I didn't think that was meant to be the point of this thought experiment.
 

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I knock her off the gorund, earn it's trust by feeding it some grass and whispering gently in it's ear, and then ride it into the sunset bareback.
 

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If I saw some blanket-laden unconscious girl on the ground in the middle of nowhere with no phone or people in the immediate area, I would freak. I mean, what if the people that did that to the girl were still around? After my anxiety let me move and I could properly breath again, I would take stock on the entire situation. Then I would check the girl's breathing and pulse. Use first aid knowledge to make sure her neck isn't broken or something before doing anything else.

I find it particularly weird that I would have a car in this situation. After all, people drive down roads - which could be flagged down - which I guess is out of the question. And, once again, this would be in the middle of nowhere as per the first-posts' instruction. But if I did have a car, I would put the girl in it and proceed to find the nearest residence or gas station in which to acquire a tele to get the girl some medical assistance.

If I'm out in the woods somewhere, and the girl does not have noticeable injuries or threat to her being through further movement, I would carry her to the nearest house or business.

If she is injured, I would leave her be and perhaps use my coat to better clothe her. Then I would mark a very distinct path back the way I came until I find assistance.

It really all depends on the circumstances. If it was clear that there are other people in the area, I would bolt. Bolt and find a place to hide, preferably someone's residence with a phone.
 

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Congradulations ones and all for those who say take her with you if she's got a broken neck.. you've just made it worse!

I would write a note ontop of the sheet saying I dare you. then leave to go call 911. the note playing into most people's paranoia they'll suspect some ashton kutcher shit or a candid camera revival and leave the girl alone. call 911 give them the exact location break down the situation for them.. mysterious girl covered in a sheet she's breathing, might have a broken neck and offer to tip a 50$ bill to the first ambulance to get there (( just to get hem moving )) run back to the location and sit next to the girl until !. the amublance arrives B. she wakes up.. w here I will force her to stay laying down until medical professionals arrive. or C. curse the American ((I'm assuming this is happening state side)) medical organizations... and maybe cop a feel. then get embarassed runn back out to scream at 911 for another hour until I call my friend she's studying for that profession to come over to help me secure her nito my car and drive her to the hospital.
 

Zanakanishi

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Fagotto said:
Zanakanishi said:
Fagotto said:
Zanakanishi said:
Engarde said:
Do you honestly expect you will get a serious answer of anything other than help her? This doesn't seem like the kind of place for that...
There is a blacksheep in every comunity.. amongst all you goody goody gamers, there is bound to be "someone" that would do what you were all thinking deep down, you know, that thought that is creeping around behind your forced veiws of doing what society would consider the right thing... if you ignore what the world would WANT you to do, and let that little thing creeping around in the back of your head come out to play... the world would deffinatly be a... more interesting place.

But hey! no one could seriously think like that right? surely thats just impossible.
More like it's what we consider the right thing too. It can't always be everyone else that thinks it's wrong. And what I would want to do involves what I think is right, regardless of society.
Thats exactly my point, peoples veiws of whats right are placed by years of world development, your family teach you whats wrong and right, the media does, you learn some of it on your own... but still, someone placed that idea in your head, if they did not then we would be like our primal selves, for example the first decade of humans would have just raped her without hesitation, that is the base of the human mind, it is just clouded by the things we have learnt.
In other words you didn't ever consider the fact that morality didn't come out of a void. Yes, humans originally had no morals at all and magically morality came out of nowhere. Yeah, I'm not very convinced by the idea "Omg humans originally had no morals at all!" since its blatantly false.

And clouded? You're just trying to be 'edgy'. It sounds stupid.
Naturally not everyone is the same, there are all kinds of people, you are just trying to pluck flaws and be ignorant to what i'm trying to say... everyone has a darker side to them, this is a common debate, for example, you must have met atleast one person (mostly women, for some reason) that craves attention, think about them for a few seconds.............

and there we have it.... emptyness! the main reason for religions existing, killed millions of people, made people give up on life, oh it's an amazing thing to be honest.. people began to feel empty with doing what we would consider bad things, people want structure in life, to be told what to do.. this eventually turns into something people truely believe.. simply because they want to, i'm not saying i'm correct, this is just how i see things.
 

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nomad240 said:
Congradulations ones and all for those who say take her with you if she's got a broken neck.. you've just made it worse!

I would write a note ontop of the sheet saying I dare you. then leave to go call 911. the note playing into most people's paranoia they'll suspect some ashton kutcher shit or a candid camera revival and leave the girl alone. call 911 give them the exact location break down the situation for them.. mysterious girl covered in a sheet she's breathing, might have a broken neck and offer to tip a 50$ bill to the first ambulance to get there (( just to get hem moving )) run back to the location and sit next to the girl until !. the amublance arrives B. she wakes up.. w here I will force her to stay laying down until medical professionals arrive. or C. curse the American ((I'm assuming this is happening state side)) medical organizations... and maybe cop a feel. then get embarassed runn back out to scream at 911 for another hour until I call my friend she's studying for that profession to come over to help me secure her nito my car and drive her to the hospital.
Seriously? A note?

Chances are if she has a broken neck and is completely non responsive she's fucked anyway, best to take her with you.
 

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What are you gonna just mount her up?....in the middle of a street...?? only thing to do is bring her inside somewhere find a way to contact SOMEONE and wait till she wakes up
 

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Pick her up and bring her to a hospital. Sure the hospital is probably gonna call the cops and have some questions to you, but a simple rape test will prove you didn't do anything to her plus if she eventually wakes up I'm sure she'll be very grateful that you brought her to someplace safe for the moment.
ditto, as much as my pubescent urges want to do something else, my mental ability to completely override all instinctive urges will tell me to bring her to the hospital.

I mean, if I found her on the ground in the middle of nowhere, clearly I must've got here somehow; most likely by car.
 

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Sounds like I made the right choice to stop watching Bleach at 310.

Bleach without Aizen is worthless :(

Anyway, take her to the hospital. Duh. Forget morality, this is plain common sense.
 

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jamesmax said:
if you found

a very attractive girl,
nude with just a blanket on top off her,
on the gorund outside,
and wont wake up,
you dont have a cell,
your not neer any place you could borrow a phone,
its just you no frends,
its geting late and you know sumone would do sumthing bad to her if you left her ther





just as a joke not part of all this
Your girlfrend is home




what would you do?


i got the ieda for this form bleach ep 317
Dear god Bleach has 317 episodes?
Yes that's the part I took away from this post.

Anyway, I'd take her
I'd help figure out what government agencies are after her
or whether she had any super powers
 

Zanakanishi

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Fagotto said:
Zanakanishi said:
Fagotto said:
Zanakanishi said:
Fagotto said:
Zanakanishi said:
Engarde said:
Do you honestly expect you will get a serious answer of anything other than help her? This doesn't seem like the kind of place for that...
There is a blacksheep in every comunity.. amongst all you goody goody gamers, there is bound to be "someone" that would do what you were all thinking deep down, you know, that thought that is creeping around behind your forced veiws of doing what society would consider the right thing... if you ignore what the world would WANT you to do, and let that little thing creeping around in the back of your head come out to play... the world would deffinatly be a... more interesting place.

But hey! no one could seriously think like that right? surely thats just impossible.
More like it's what we consider the right thing too. It can't always be everyone else that thinks it's wrong. And what I would want to do involves what I think is right, regardless of society.
Thats exactly my point, peoples veiws of whats right are placed by years of world development, your family teach you whats wrong and right, the media does, you learn some of it on your own... but still, someone placed that idea in your head, if they did not then we would be like our primal selves, for example the first decade of humans would have just raped her without hesitation, that is the base of the human mind, it is just clouded by the things we have learnt.
In other words you didn't ever consider the fact that morality didn't come out of a void. Yes, humans originally had no morals at all and magically morality came out of nowhere. Yeah, I'm not very convinced by the idea "Omg humans originally had no morals at all!" since its blatantly false.

And clouded? You're just trying to be 'edgy'. It sounds stupid.
Naturally not everyone is the same, there are all kinds of people, you are just trying to pluck flaws and be ignorant to what i'm trying to say... everyone has a darker side to them, this is a common debate, for example, you must have met atleast one person (mostly women, for some reason) that craves attention, think about them for a few seconds.............

and there we have it.... emptyness! the main reason for religions existing, killed millions of people, made people give up on life, oh it's an amazing thing to be honest.. people began to feel empty with doing what we would consider bad things, people want structure in life, to be told what to do.. this eventually turns into something people truely believe.. simply because they want to, i'm not saying i'm correct, this is just how i see things.
Yes, people have darker sides. No, that doesn't validate playing stupid and acting as if all morality comes from outside. Also, lol, sexism. More like you're not able to divorce your biased personal experience from reality.

Not really. More like it's you spouting unsupported BS to support a juvenile world view.
Most world veiws (MOST not all, some have a lot of evidence to support them) are unsupported BS, it's simply te way i see life, this conversation somehow led to me talking about it... that is all, seriously, don't get me started on world veiws, i have work soon.
 

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This is clearly a trap laid for me by the dastardly Takeda clan-but I will not fall for it!

(Decapitates girl with katanna and awaits the enemy charge)
 

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I would learn how to spell.

And then I would steal her blanket because it's getting cold down here in Australia.

Actually, I'd probably take her straight to a hospital wrapped in the blanket and then stick around to make sure she's alright. But that's probably it. I mean I don't know how far any sort of friendship or relationship could go with a girl you 'found' wrapped naked in a blanket in the middle of nowhere. Not to mention how awkward it would be for either of you. Hell, you'd probably be the prime suspect anyway.