this is the escapist,its the norm here just like most of the internet. sad isn't it?FallenMessiah88 said:
If you voted for Obama or you're a Muslim, you better not try to learn gun safety in Texas
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Jodah said:
The government is not a private institution. Licenses are given by the government. Thats like saying that they can refuse to give you a Drivers License at the DMV because they dont like your race or your religion, and thats somehow protected under the 1st amendments FREE SPEECH. Nope, sure isnt. Its the constitution that says the OPPOSITE, that everyone is protected under the law.
Its so hilarious. This man is trying to infringe on peoples SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, the thing the gun nuts are saying IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AMENDMENT EVER, and heres a man who is literally trying to go against that amendment, but because he said "YEEEHAAA, MUSLIMS/OBAMA!", all of a sudden the constitution doesnt matter anymore.
Well, that pretty much disregards everything you guys have to say about that forever....
Licenses are given by the government, the classes are taught by private individuals. He isn't denying them a license, he is refusing to teach them the course. Anyone he refuses is free to go somewhere else to take the course.Anodos said:
Edit: Side note, I don't support what he did. I do, however, support his right to do it.
You make a salient point. I'm sure Keller would fit right in with the Taliban.Joush said:
So people are giving him support on this, eh? Who would have thought that racism and bigotry were market advantages?
Right on.Danyal said:
When you see the "Faith in humanity" card get played as part of a leading argument (or response), that's your cue to immediately dismiss it because it's bullshit. They're saying that to exaggerate the relevance of their topic and to get you to post.
Is this firearms instructor a racist asshole? Yeah.
Does he represent the entirety of humanity and the values they collectively hold or stand for?
Fuck no.
Nope, try again. Make a business, any business. Post "no whites" or "no jews" in your ad campaign. You'd better believe you're gonna get shut down. This is not different.Jodah said:
Perhaps, *perhaps* if he were to talk with people individually, get to know them, and *then* discriminate based off of religion/beliefs/political preference *individually*, he could get away with it... unless a lawyer could show a pattern of discriminatory behavior, in which case, he'd be shut down.
Oh look, people being racist and hyper conservative!
boy, it sure is a shock to hear of intolerant people existing.
boy, it sure is a shock to hear of intolerant people existing.
Is there any point in my mentioning that this behavior is neither exclusive to nor ubiquitous in Texas? That many Texans, myself included, find this sort of bullshit reprehensible and would smack this dude in the face if he didn't have a gun and was worth the trouble?
Would it make any difference, convince anyone that their deeply-held beliefs that all Texans are undereducated pigrapists - beliefs which jackasses like this only reinforce, to be sure - might not be accurate?
Irony!
Misinformed Man does Stupid Misinformed Thing, is supported by his Misinformed Peers. What can you do about it?
Simple: don't go to his stupid class. Even if you do live in the area (which I'm betting most of us don't: I live in Texas and this guy's town is a six-hour drive from mine) and would otherwise be eligible (I don't classify myself politically, did not vote for Obama and am neither Arab nor Muslim) you have the right to refuse to patronize him. It's not like there's a shortage of gun classes to take in this state.
Don't lump all of us in one category. Some of us are almost respectable.
captcha: aniziw Jonathan. Johnny-boy, you probably shouldn't go to this gun club. Pronouncing "Aniziw" wrong is probably the least offensive thing Keller will do.
Would it make any difference, convince anyone that their deeply-held beliefs that all Texans are undereducated pigrapists - beliefs which jackasses like this only reinforce, to be sure - might not be accurate?
Irony!
Misinformed Man does Stupid Misinformed Thing, is supported by his Misinformed Peers. What can you do about it?
Simple: don't go to his stupid class. Even if you do live in the area (which I'm betting most of us don't: I live in Texas and this guy's town is a six-hour drive from mine) and would otherwise be eligible (I don't classify myself politically, did not vote for Obama and am neither Arab nor Muslim) you have the right to refuse to patronize him. It's not like there's a shortage of gun classes to take in this state.
Don't lump all of us in one category. Some of us are almost respectable.
captcha: aniziw Jonathan. Johnny-boy, you probably shouldn't go to this gun club. Pronouncing "Aniziw" wrong is probably the least offensive thing Keller will do.
I'm going to flat out stop viewing threads that i think will piss me off, I was ranting for almost an hour about how Texas is such a disgusting and horrible place, and how this jerk needs to be burned at the stake, and I don't think my roommate can handle much more...
Iunno, do Britain and France have an inter-country rivalry going on or something?OhJohnNo said:
Of course our rivalries haven't been going on for NEARLY as long, but rivalries crop up whenever you can define an "us" and a "them".
What? A right wing gun nut says something racist?
NO!! Next you'll tell me Bill O'Riely spun the news to his own political agenda!
Honestly this isn't anything new. If you were to base it on what you see in the news alone, Texas is the state where morals, ethics, and human decency go to die. I never have been to the state and sincerely hope that the religious right lunatics don't accurately depict the average Texan. Especially since it's in poor southern states like that where the American socialist movement began in the first place, before the red scare.
NO!! Next you'll tell me Bill O'Riely spun the news to his own political agenda!
Honestly this isn't anything new. If you were to base it on what you see in the news alone, Texas is the state where morals, ethics, and human decency go to die. I never have been to the state and sincerely hope that the religious right lunatics don't accurately depict the average Texan. Especially since it's in poor southern states like that where the American socialist movement began in the first place, before the red scare.
I was literally just learning about this in class today! It's called an externality, and it is an example of market failure! The price and the quantity produced (or in this case, hours of class taught, I suppose) are not being directly affected by themselves, the buyer, or the seller, but by a non-relevant quirk of the seller, which shifts the market away from equilibrium (which pretty much must be avoided at all costs in economics, or so I gather). Therefore, the government ought to intervene to bring the market back to equilibrium.Jay Yaternick said:
Yay, applicable knowledge!
anywhere between 1.5million to 2.5million times per year depending on the studyJimmybobjr said:
or about .5% of the population per year