In the event of nuclear war, what would you do?

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Nomen Nescio said:
On a side note, don't want to crush your Falloutesque dreams, but I've read somewhere that at this point no country is prepared to cope with a loss of it's electricity infrastructure, as you can't produce new components or repair old ones without electricity itself. You can't get fossil fuels without it, or even dream about maintaining a food supply chain (cities would have to die out of starvation). Domino effect all over the place.
All this considered, I think only the meanest and most ruthless would survive. Of course also smart enough to realize he/they won't survive only by plundering - hello feudalism or even slavery.
Well...yes, if the infrastructure can be destroyed.

In many nations that's going to take a lot of doing, with important parts scattered over wide areas.

Secondly, what about neighbouring nations? Plenty of reasons why a neighbouring country not so badly off would want to help.

As an aside, during (at least part of) the Cold War, the USSR had submarines that wouldn't take part in WW3, they'd wait a year, surface, launch spy satellites, find out what was being rebuilt and hit it again.
 

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I'm not sure how high boston is rated on American cites people want to nuke because all the bases are around it but if Boston was nuked well I think I would have to go off myself because the normal traffic is hard enough to get out of the city, in nuclear conditions you might as well just watch the fireworks. (yes I realize fireworks are still banned in this state)
 

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thaluikhain said:
Well...yes, if the infrastructure can be destroyed.
In many nations that's going to take a lot of doing, with important parts scattered over wide areas.
Don't power stations and transformers tend to malfunction under stress coming from catastrophical power fluctuation in the energy grid?
thaluikhain said:
Secondly, what about neighbouring nations? Plenty of reasons why a neighbouring country not so badly off would want to help.
In case of nuclear war Germany is going to be hit much harder than Poland, so I wouldn't expect any help from them. Quite the opposite if anything. East we have Belarus and Ukraine which will be either under Russian occupation by that time or battered just as badly as anyone else. Baltic Countries are just too small to be anything else than a target for despaired militias (self organized or not) and refugees. Czech Republic and Slovakia? Depending on how badly they would get hit.
All in all I simply don't believe that in the case of nuclear war, any country is going to focus it's survival efforts on helping foreign nations. But maybe I'm tad too cynical.

thaluikhain said:
As an aside, during (at least part of) the Cold War, the USSR had submarines that wouldn't take part in WW3, they'd wait a year, surface, launch spy satellites, find out what was being rebuilt and hit it again.
If that's still a viable strategy, then there's not much to discuss anymore.
 

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Hope the sorry state of Detroit made them think they already bombed it once. Then I'd start a small party of bandit adventurers, complete with awesome hat and ominous duster. Maybe some kind of automatic weapon hanging from a sling Omar Little style.
 

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not too worried at worst ill have to start hunting for food instead of fun and hell my climate up here wouldn't even change with nuclear winter so yeah sucks to be you guys:p
 

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After that, I lock all the doors, cover shattered windows with tarpaulin, crack out the Brita filters, put Aphex Twin's "Rhubarb" on repeat and wait for rescue.
I approve the choice of music, but there's a good chance your modern electronics will be toast and even the old transistor (which, you know, we all have) radio an absolute unsuable mess until the ionosphere calms down. Interesting point though that older analog electronics do better in unsheilded EMP exposure than new miniaturized digital stuff (apparently). Still vulnerable, but old analog circuits, vacuum tubes and telephone relays aren't as susceptible to instant-bricking. I wonder if that would work for vinyl records and passive speakers? Might wish to invest.
I have a manual option on my record player. I am READY for this.

Also, if I knew of impending attack, I'd drive south. That's where our 110 km/h highway is.
 

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Well I don't see any reason for Canada to be nuked seeing as we don't have any nukes of our own so... apart from nuclear fallout coming from the US, I might actually be okay. Heck, even if Canada did get nuked, I couldn't see my home city getting targeted.
 

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Well I don't see any reason for Canada to be nuked seeing as we don't have any nukes of our own so... apart from nuclear fallout coming from the US, I might actually be okay. Heck, even if Canada did get nuked, I couldn't see my home city getting targeted.
During the Cold War, the Soviets had a doctrine of "Sharing the Pain".

Basically, Canada might not be a threat to anyone now, but after WW3, things will be different. Smaller powers would suddenly be comparatively powerful to what's left of the previous large powers, so they'd be targeted. This even applied to Soviet allies the USSR didn't trust.

Now, under that logic, it's important to make a mess out of Canada...this might "just" be a missile at the capital to muck up the infrastructure and government system, though, rather than a widespread attack.
 

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Die like everyone else, the current nuclear weaponry is far more advanced than what it was at the time that video was made.
 

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zerabp said:
Die like everyone else, the current nuclear weaponry is far more advanced than what it was at the time that video was made.
Source please? Obviously, there's a lot of guesswork involved in an event that has never happened but from what I've read, even the most powerful nukes ever created only have a blast radius of a few kilometres. The closest survivor to one of the bombs dropped on Japan was less than 200 metres away from ground zero, while much less powerful than modern nukes that clearly shows they can be survived under the right circumstances (this individual was in a basement). Radiation is a problem but not every place is going to be near a bomb, some people would have effective shelters and some people would be plain lucky.
 

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zerabp said:
Die like everyone else, the current nuclear weaponry is far more advanced than what it was at the time that video was made.
Advanced doesn't mean more dangerous.

A lot of the advances were made in getting the devices where you want them to be. In the old days, they made really big weapons, so you could miss the target by a lot and still get it. However, it's much more efficient to make multiple small ones if your delivery system is reliable, which is the case now.
 

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I'd look up the dude who survived both bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and just copy him.
 

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thaluikhain said:
RedDeadFred said:
Well I don't see any reason for Canada to be nuked seeing as we don't have any nukes of our own so... apart from nuclear fallout coming from the US, I might actually be okay. Heck, even if Canada did get nuked, I couldn't see my home city getting targeted.
During the Cold War, the Soviets had a doctrine of "Sharing the Pain".

Basically, Canada might not be a threat to anyone now, but after WW3, things will be different. Smaller powers would suddenly be comparatively powerful to what's left of the previous large powers, so they'd be targeted. This even applied to Soviet allies the USSR didn't trust.

Now, under that logic, it's important to make a mess out of Canada...this might "just" be a missile at the capital to muck up the infrastructure and government system, though, rather than a widespread attack.
Well that's just mean... At least I live nowhere near our capital!
 
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thaluikhain said:
During the Cold War, the Soviets had a doctrine of "Sharing the Pain".

Basically, Canada might not be a threat to anyone now, but after WW3, things will be different. Smaller powers would suddenly be comparatively powerful to what's left of the previous large powers, so they'd be targeted. This even applied to Soviet allies the USSR didn't trust.

Now, under that logic, it's important to make a mess out of Canada...this might "just" be a missile at the capital to muck up the infrastructure and government system, though, rather than a widespread attack.
As a major US ally and member of NATO, right next to the US with alot of important strategic resources I'd guess it's more likely to get thoroughly plastered. Denial of strategic reources to the enemy was pretty high on the prorities of both the US and the soviets. Basically, if the other side might be able to use it in some way, expect it to get a very unwelcome present.

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Jesus christ I may never be happy again. I think I need to go watch gifs of cats falling off of stuff for a few hours now.
My work here is done.
 

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As a major US ally and member of NATO, right next to the US with alot of important strategic resources I'd guess it's more likely to get thoroughly plastered. Denial of strategic reources to the enemy was pretty high on the prorities of both the US and the soviets. Basically, if the other side might be able to use it in some way, expect it to get a very unwelcome present.
Not sure how important Canada's alliances would be, given most of those allies would cease to exist (in the normal sense) during the war. Likewise, strategic resources are a concern, yes, but not an immediate one after the war, possibly it'd be enough merely to cripple the government and infrastructure, rather than cause widespread physical destruction.

Also, the USSR/Russians have a limited amount of weapons, especially given the US's ABM systems. They know a certain amount of missiles won't get through, but not which ones, so many targets they need to be sure of would be targeted by many missiles so that at least one can be guaranteed to get through, meaning many weapons would be wasted.
 

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What a fucking depressing thread.

OT: Die. Or get raped then die. One of the two.

Like I said, fucking depressing thread.

Edit: Wait, I forgot, there's a third option. Get eaten. Can't leave out the cannibals.
 

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Would probably die from the fallout. I live fairly close to the capital and a military base.
 
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thaluikhain said:
Not sure how important Canada's alliances would be, given most of those allies would cease to exist (in the normal sense) during the war. Likewise, strategic resources are a concern, yes, but not an immediate one after the war, possibly it'd be enough merely to cripple the government and infrastructure, rather than cause widespread physical destruction.

Also, the USSR/Russians have a limited amount of weapons, especially given the US's ABM systems. They know a certain amount of missiles won't get through, but not which ones, so many targets they need to be sure of would be targeted by many missiles so that at least one can be guaranteed to get through, meaning many weapons would be wasted.

Canada's a major NATO partner, and was vital to SIOP and the North Atlantic, & NORAD. There are plenty of shared military assets. It'll be important enough for long enough that it'll get a lot of bombs. Even though the USSR is no more, any Russian/US exchange would happen pretty much along the same lines. Once it's broken down to the point of chucking nukes at each other's cities then it's not just going to be the US and Russia in the fight, no matter how much Canada might want to be left out of it.

I'm not saying they'd be hitting every bit of tundra, or indeed any bit of tundra, but they are pretty much the same target as far as military and industrial targets go. In retrospect I probably should not have used the phrase "thoroughly plastered". That's left for North Dakota etc.

8,500 warheads give or take. More than enough.
 

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Well I live in the northern Plain of Germany.
I was a conscript so if I were to survive I would rejoin the army to repell any conventional followup attack on Germany or its NATO-Allies. Sounds to me like as good a Plan as any, at least there is the possiblity to get some payback.