IO Changed Hitman: Absolution Following Nun Controversy

[Treblaine]

That's not a DEFINING element of nunsploitation. It doesn't HAVE to be set in Europe.

Nunsploitation is entirely about (people dressed as) nuns doing what nuns wouldn't do, like being overtly sexual and wield big ass weapons and killing people. Films do this. But you act like games can't, even for a film that advertises a game.

I'm not saying that games can't.

I'm saying that Hitman shouldn't.

I have utterly destroyed your claim that nunsploitation is "americana" and that it normally involves weapons. It usually involves bondage. Your version of nunsploitation seems to be based on one shitty Rodriguez film

I have utterly destroyed you claim that ninjas never existed as presented. Plenty of ninjas used katana and depictions of ninjas wearing black clothing go bat to the 19th century.

And you claim that people wearing "big bird" costumes DURING A CARNIVAL is as unrealistic as bondage-nuns at a shitty motel destroys itself.


Basically my argument is this:

You can be as ridiculous as you want but it must make sense in some way.

Big bird costumes at a carnival ARE FINE.
Ninja and sumo wrestlers in a yakuza mansion ARE FINE.

People dressing en-masse in ridiculous costumes to kill a guy in a dodgy motel IS NOT FINE.

It breaks through the point where I'm willing to suspend disbelief. Its obvious that the creators put it in purely because it looked cool without caring if it made sense.

And yes Hitman IS as realistic as Call of Duty. Call of Duty being about as realistic as a late 90s Bond film. AKA fucking ridiculous.

Like nunsploitation being Americana was the crux of my argument.

"I have utterly destroyed you claim that ninjas never existed as presented."

Lol nope. You do NOT UNDERSTAND. Ninjas were depicted as dressed in black in 19th century theatre ONLY because the stage hands wore all black and the conceit was that you were supposed to ignore the stage-hands dressed in black. The symbolism of the stage hand drsssed in black suddenly stabbing a character and it being declared a ninja did it, that is NOT to say ninjas dress in black but SYMBOLICALLY that they were killed suddenly and invisibly by an unknown person.

A big-bird costume blends in as well as nun outfits. The trailer showed the troop of assassins dressed authentically as nuns before revealing their guns and more extreme attire. Remember they know that Agent 47 is neurotic and fearful of female sexuality, wouldn't it be tormenting to send sexy women to kill him? Makes sense for a villain who has a taste for the theatrical and irony.

Your assertions are just your opinion.

My argument does NOT depend on me convincing you, as you could refuse to be convinced.

You haven't proven why it would break suspension of disbelief, you have just asserted that is your personal stance.

 

[Eveonline100]

Wait, so is he saying the characters in the game didn't originally have context before this trailer?

Because what I get from this is that in the game the nuns would have been nothing but scantily clad women you beat up/killed, and now there's going to be a reason to do this.

Does this sound a bit odd to anyone else, or am I just reading this wrong? Why the fuck didn't they give it all context in the first damn place?!

no i with you all the way. As for the reason why they didn't get context before the answer is simple developers not giving a shit about story.

 

[Mike Fang]

Blah blah blah, snip.

You are such a blatantly obvious troll at this point. Just do us all a favor, take your ill-tempered attitude, your refusal to have a polite discussion and your pathetic desire to pick fights with people over a stupid-@$$ game, shut your mouth, and leave.

 

[TAdamson]

A big-bird costume blends in as well as nun outfits.

The big bird costumes are AT A CARNIVAL.

The nuns are in a COMPLETELY AVERAGE SITUATION.


If you think that the second blends in as well as the first then you are tripping.

Also if a guy decides to dress his guards at his mansion as ninjas or whatever then that is completely different from send a bunch of heavily made-up women, dressed as nuns, in leather bondage gear to kill some one in a hotel.

One is eccentric. The other is ridiculous. One I can buy happening, the other I cannot.

I'm done.

 

[Treblaine]

A big-bird costume blends in as well as nun outfits.

The big bird costumes are AT A CARNIVAL.

The nuns are in a COMPLETELY AVERAGE SITUATION.


If you think that the second blends in as well as the first then you are tripping.

Also if a guy decides to dress his guards at his mansion as ninjas or whatever then that is completely different from send a bunch of heavily made-up women, dressed as nuns, in leather bondage gear to kill some one in a hotel.

One is eccentric. The other is ridiculous. One I can buy happening, the other I cannot.

I'm done.

Too right you're done, well and truly done. You were finished 2 replies ago.

Big Bird costume stands out in a carnival when almost everyone else is dressed in casual dress. Such costumed in real life are DESIGNED to stand out! It is there entirely by the designer's intent to have them stand out.

I'm not tripping. You are tripping if you see a groups of nuns walking by a road and suspect skulduggery. They approached dressed convincingly as nuns and not till drawing their weapon did they reveal their extreme attire. Attire which is not the least bit related to bondage, you don't seem to know or care that bondage means RESTRAINTS and none are present, only miniskirts.

You have DISINGENUOUSLY ignored these points, repeatedly. In fact you have been ignoring about half my points each reply only to repeat your baseless assertions or pick away using the same fallacies. Is this all there is to say in the defence of this censorship!?!?! Surely someone better can defend it than you. Or is the pressure being put on IO to self-censor truly indefensible.

You assert that sexy nun assassins are "completely different" from a freaking giant ninja palace, but that AGAIN is not any sort of explanation or argument but nothing but a baseless assertion that adds NOTHING to the discussion. No one cares if you can't buy the other happening, you have a vested interest to deny it! It's like arguing with a creationist who falls back on the argument "well I still don't buy evolution", SO WHAT!?!

This is a DISCUSSION forum not an OPINION forum, and you've repeated your opinion more than enough and have not backed it up.

Eccentric is again close enough to be synonymous with ridiculous. These are such shallow and meaningless distinctions and assertions.

 

[TAdamson]

Big Bird costume stands out in a carnival when almost everyone else is dressed in casual dress. Such costumed in real life are DESIGNED to stand out! It is there entirely by the designer's intent to have them stand out.

It's a carnival. It makes sense. Deal with it.

You are tripping if you see a groups of nuns walking by a road and suspect skulduggery.

Yeah.... Because nuns dress like this:


http://monkeyphatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Hitman-Absolution-nuns-610x250.jpg



http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Nuns.jpg


All the time....

I'd totally have to have some screws loose to think that there was something untoward there. What was I thinking?

(Not to mention how stupid wearing that to kill someone as dangerous as 47 would be. Stilleto Platforms? Really? The second that Mother Superior fires the RPG she's going to break an ankle.)

It's clearly put there for titillation. Which would be fine, but at least make it contextually appropriate! Put them in club, or a brothel, or make them some sort of pervert's live-in house guards/maids.

I'd have the similar problems if the ninjas with samurai swords came to the motel but this is way worse. Its be more comparable to a bunch of circus clowns coming to kill our bald friend.

Surely someone better can defend it than you. Or is the pressure being put on IO to self-censor truly indefensible.

Fuck them. If they don't have the courage of their convictions to pull "sexy nuns" off in a believable way then they clearly hadn't thought it through.

You assert that sexy nun assassins are "completely different" from a freaking giant ninja palace,

Yep Because the palace is not a public place,, is secluded. CLEAR?

This is a DISCUSSION forum not an OPINION forum, and you've repeated your opinion more than enough and have not backed it up.

Dude speak for yourself. You gone far further with this than I have.

Eccentric is again close enough to be synonymous with ridiculous. These are such shallow and meaningless distinctions and assertions.

Ummm no eccentricities are a things that people actually do. Like wearing fluffy rabbit slippers because no one else can see you. Or wearing women's underwear. Or asking your guards to dress in stylized costumes to fit the theme of your mansion.

People do not dress up as nuns to kill people in motels. That occurs in fantasy land.

 

[Treblaine]

Big Bird costume stands out in a carnival when almost everyone else is dressed in casual dress. Such costumed in real life are DESIGNED to stand out! It is there entirely by the designer's intent to have them stand out.

It's a carnival. It makes sense. Deal with it.

You are tripping if you see a groups of nuns walking by a road and suspect skulduggery.

Yeah.... Because nuns dress like this:


http://monkeyphatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Hitman-Absolution-nuns-610x250.jpg


All the time....

I'd totally have to have some screws loose to think that there was something untoward there. What was I thinking?

(Not to mention how stupid wearing that to kill someone as dangerous as 47 would be.)

Surely someone better can defend it than you. Or is the pressure being put on IO to self-censor truly indefensible.

Fuck them. If they don't have the courage of their convictions to pull sexy nuns off in a believable way then they clearly hadn't thought it through.

You assert that sexy nun assassins are "completely different" from a freaking giant ninja palace,

Yep Because the palace is not a public place,, is secluded. CLEAR?

This is a DISCUSSION forum not an OPINION forum, and you've repeated your opinion more than enough and have not backed it up.

Dude speak for yourself. You gone far further with this than I have.

Eccentric is again close enough to be synonymous with ridiculous. These are such shallow and meaningless distinctions and assertions.

Ummm no eccentricities are a things that people actually do. Like wearing fluffy rabbit slippers because no one else can see you. Or asking your guards to dress in stylized costumes to fit the theme of your mansion.

People do not dress up as nuns to kill people in motels. That occurs in fantasy land.

So that's your argument? Deception.

They approached dressed like THIS:

You know they approached like that so you knew it wasn't true what you said. Even after I TOLD YOU! So many times now you have ignored this, repeated it even after I specifically told you that you ignored it.

You are tripping if you see a groups of nuns walking by a road and suspect skulduggery. They approached dressed convincingly as nuns and not till drawing their weapon did they reveal their extreme attire.

You've been caught red handed. You've been ranting about this for several pages now, about NOTHING!

What is the point in those assassins keeping up the pretence of their nun disguise WHEN THEY ARE WIELDING ROCKET LAUNCHERS AND ASSAULT RIFLES!! Will you address this? Probably like the previous 3 replies you won't.

People do not dress up as nuns to kill people in motels. That occurs in fantasy land.

Pro tip: Hitman is NOT REALITY, it is a work of fantasy. People don't send clones to assassinate the Vice President inside the White House.

Ninja Palaces in 2000's era Japan are a work of fantasy. This is not an assertion, this is an argument based on established facts.

Other people in this thread are joining in to tell you how wrong you are. Get real.

 

[TAdamson]

So that's your argument? Deception.

What're they going to do afterwards? Their disguises are now lying in the mud. They're wearing crotchless leather pants and 5-inch heels. That seems like the perfect getaway outfit.

Quick! put out an APB on some nuns! Oh! It can't be them, they aren't nuns, they're clearly a group of nun themed prostitutes.... Heywaitaminute!

Pro tip: Hitman is NOT REALITY, it is a work of fantasy. People don't send clones to assassinate the Vice President inside the White House.

Realism isn't some sort of black and white thing. There is a sliding scale.

Your point seems to be "Oh there's Ninja palaces therefore anything can happen". Which I firmly disagree with.

I can accept the ninja palace because it's not out in the open. I can accept that 47 is a highly classified clone. The world of Hitman, to me, is a world that is a mirror of our own until you look into the dark corners. A world that is normal until you break into a Japanese palace or go look into the mad psychiatrist's cellar. Like the X-Files... or, if it made less sense, Lost (Fuck you Damon Lindelof).

But these ladies are out in the open, in broad daylight dressed in clothes more appropriate for a brothel.

I don't believe that X-Files is reality or even remotely realistic but I don't expect Mulder and Scully to be attacked by Funky-Nun-Force-Five. That'd be fucking stupid.



(Not to mention how stupid wearing that to kill someone as dangerous as 47 would be. Stilleto Platforms? Really? The second that Mother Superior fires the RPG she's going to break an ankle.)

I'd have the similar problems if the ninjas with samurai swords came to the motel but this is way worse. It'd be more comparable to a bunch of circus clowns with big floppy shoes coming to kill our bald friend.

Ninja Palaces in 2000's era Japan are a work of fantasy. This is not an assertion, this is an argument based on established facts.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? Have you been in every Japanese palace or Yakuza mansion? Closed doors my friend.

That's not to say that I believe that they exist, but I find the thought of their existence MORE PLAUSIBLE THAN SEXY BONDAGE ASSASSIN NUNS.

Get what I'm saying?

(I love the phrase: "this is an argument bases on established facts" by the way. It's really convincing rhetoric. You should use it in the next argument you have about a videogame's tone and style.)

Other people in this thread are joining in to tell you how wrong you are. Get real.

Quite a few people on my side too.

For someone claiming that this is a "discussion thread not an opinion thread" you're kicking up a lot of the angry confrontation.

 

[TAdamson]

you don't seem to know or care that bondage means RESTRAINTS and none are present, only miniskirts.

Semantics. Contextually what I said makes sense. These ladies look like they're out for a good half week of BDSM.

But since we're indulging in such ridiculous pedantry; "only miniskirts" huh? I count 3 full vinyl body-suits, 1 pair of crotchless stockings with leather romper, 1 pair of fishnets with leather romper etc etc etc.

Why don't you actually deal with the more pertinent point that it would be ridiculous for people to dress that way to go kill someone? Just because there are ninjas somewhere in a private mansion, and 47 is a clone, are not a reasonable explanations.

Oh and by the way: Saying this:

It's like arguing with a creationist who falls back on the argument "well I still don't buy evolution", SO WHAT!?!

Totally undercuts saying this:

This is a DISCUSSION forum not an OPINION forum, and you've repeated your opinion more than enough and have not backed it up.

But you still get you sexy nuns so I guess you win.

http://teksyndicate.com/news/2012/08/17/hitman-absolution-sexy-nuns-given-depth-win-gaming-community

So I guess your all crying about:

Is this all there is to say in the defence of this censorship!?!?!

Is about nothing. And it's not fucking censorship by the way. It's asking for sensible context.

So this whole flap seems be about IO trying to add that sensible context to this retarded story element.

If anything, however, I think this is more retarded. It seems that these ladies do ALL of their operations in wimples and bondage gear.

Fuck it. Why not just have a bunch of killer clowns as the next hit team like I said? They can come to kill 47 while he's relaxing in the English countryside. It's the least suspicious way and it totally makes sense because "ninja palace/clone assassin".

 

[Treblaine]

So that's your argument? Deception.

What're they going to do afterwards? Their disguises are now lying in the mud. They're wearing crotchless leather pants and 5-inch heels. That seems like the perfect getaway outfit.

Quick! put out an APB on some nuns! Oh! It can't be them, they aren't nuns, they're clearly a group of nun themed prostitutes.... Heywaitaminute!

Pro tip: Hitman is NOT REALITY, it is a work of fantasy. People don't send clones to assassinate the Vice President inside the White House.

Realism isn't some sort of black and white thing. There is a sliding scale.

Your point seems to be "Oh there's Ninja palaces therefore anything can happen". Which I firmly disagree with.

I can accept the ninja palace because it's not out in the open. I can accept that 47 is a highly classified clone. The world of Hitman, to me, is a world that is a mirror of our own until you look into the dark corners. A world that is normal until you break into a Japanese palace or go look into the mad psychiatrist's cellar. Like the X-Files... or, if it made less sense, Lost (Fuck you Damon Lindelof).

But these ladies are out in the open, in broad daylight dressed in clothes more appropriate for a brothel.

I don't believe that X-Files is reality or even remotely realistic but I don't expect Mulder and Scully to be attacked by Funky-Nun-Force-Five. That'd be fucking stupid.



(Not to mention how stupid wearing that to kill someone as dangerous as 47 would be. Stilleto Platforms? Really? The second that Mother Superior fires the RPG she's going to break an ankle.)

I'd have the similar problems if the ninjas with samurai swords came to the motel but this is way worse. It'd be more comparable to a bunch of circus clowns with big floppy shoes coming to kill our bald friend.

Ninja Palaces in 2000's era Japan are a work of fantasy. This is not an assertion, this is an argument based on established facts.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? Have you been in every Japanese palace or Yakuza mansion? Closed doors my friend.

That's not to say that I believe that they exist, but I find the thought of their existence MORE PLAUSIBLE THAN SEXY BONDAGE ASSASSIN NUNS.

Get what I'm saying?

(I love the phrase: "this is an argument bases on established facts" by the way. It's really convincing rhetoric. You should use it in the next argument you have about a videogame's tone and style.)

Other people in this thread are joining in to tell you how wrong you are. Get real.

Quite a few people on my side too.

For someone claiming that this is a "discussion thread not an opinion thread" you're kicking up a lot of the angry confrontation.

You have generated the confrontation.

Could you please give ONE reply to ONE post, not two separate replies.

And again with the "bondage" weasel words when you know full well that nothing here has to do with bondage. It's leather. That's it.

The heels, so what. This is an insane organisation, they are going to do crazy things like wear heels on a hit. Big Bird costume, giant foam feet, can't see very well.

"Oh there's Ninja palaces therefore anything can happen"

Strawman, A blatant one. My argument is not "anything" can happen. Again, zero discussion value.

You "out in the open" argument is baseless considering all the insane shit done in "the open" before like the Big Bird assassins and the Meat King's party.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? Have you been in every Japanese palace or Yakuza mansion?

How do you know there haven't been any sexy-nun assassins? Have you been everywhere in the world? Yes, Ninja Assassin palaces would be ridiculously implausible, equally sending a troop of female assassins dressed as sexy nuns. Your claim of inconsistency is completely arbitrary. I don't think you are IN ANY WAY qualified to assert with authority what should and should not be in a Hitman game.

Again this so called "argument" that "I don't find it plausible" it not an argument. Of course you don't.

 

[Treblaine]

you don't seem to know or care that bondage means RESTRAINTS and none are present, only miniskirts.

Semantics. Contextually what I said makes sense. These ladies look like they're out for a good half week of BDSM.

But since we're indulging in such ridiculous pedantry; "only miniskirts" huh? I count 3 full vinyl body-suits, 1 pair of crotchless stockings with leather romper, 1 pair of fishnets with leather romper etc etc etc.

Why don't you actually deal with the more pertinent point that it would be ridiculous for people to dress that way to go kill someone? Just because there are ninjas somewhere in a private mansion, and 47 is a clone, are not a reasonable explanations.

Oh and by the way: Saying this:

It's like arguing with a creationist who falls back on the argument "well I still don't buy evolution", SO WHAT!?!

Totally undercuts saying this:

This is a DISCUSSION forum not an OPINION forum, and you've repeated your opinion more than enough and have not backed it up.

But you still get you sexy nuns so I guess you win.

http://teksyndicate.com/news/2012/08/17/hitman-absolution-sexy-nuns-given-depth-win-gaming-community

So I guess your all crying about:

Is this all there is to say in the defence of this censorship!?!?!

Is about nothing. And it's not fucking censorship by the way. It's asking for sensible context.

So this whole flap seems be about IO trying to add that sensible context to this retarded story element.

If anything, however, I think this is more retarded. It seems that these ladies do ALL of their operations in wimples and bondage gear.

Fuck it. Why not just have a bunch of killer clowns as the next hit team like I said? They can come to kill 47 while he's relaxing in the English countryside. It's the least suspicious way and it totally makes sense because "ninja palace/clone assassin".

It's not semantics. It is ACTUAL! It's like saying they are dressed like basketball players and when pointed out nothing they are doing or wearing is related to basketball related to you cry "semantics".

Semantics is not a get-out-clause for making BLATANTLY FALSE AND SELF SERVING claims.

It's miniskirts and catsuits. It's not crotchless pants, it's a garter belt. That's it. You are clearly woefully ignorant of dress style and sex if you conclude that is "bondage".

Repeat after me: this has NOTHING to do with bondage. WHY are you dragging bondage into this? Bondage means RESTRAINTS. It may be with ropes, leather or chains (handcuffs) it is not defined by vinyl clothing.

Yes, it's ridiculous. Entirely fitting with what the ridiculousness that Hitman series has established. Have you played the series? Do you even CARE about the series or is it just conservative meddling?

You have made PERSONAL ASSERTIONS, so now you have to lay clean your politics and prejudices, do you disapprove of women showing their legs in public? Does it enrage you?

http://teksyndicate.com/news/2012/08/17/hitman-absolution-sexy-nuns-given-depth-win-gaming-community

Except the demand was not for context, YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE AT ALL!!! (yes block capitals are necessary for you who ignore points so inconvenient to you).

Again, caught red handed.

I welcome context, you NEVER asked for it, you ENDLESSLY asserted - baselessly - that they could never fit in the Hitman universe.

Why not just have a bunch of killer clowns as the next hit team like I said? They can come to kill 47 while he's relaxing in the English countryside.

You may be joking but that would be perfect, that IS Hitman. Clowns, with machine guns, brilliant. You clearly just don't get Hitman and seem to think it should be just like Call of Duty for gawd sake.

 

[TAdamson]

And again with the "bondage" weasel words when you know full well that nothing here has to do with bondage. It's leather. That's it.

Pedantry.

And "weasel words"? Fuck off.

I don't give a fuck about bondage. But that is what it looks like. I could say gothic fetishwear I guess (Doeen't really roll off the tongue as bondage-nuns though).

However I don't understand why you give a fuck what a call it. We all know what I'm talking about.

The heels, so what. This is an insane organisation, they are going to do crazy things like wear heels on a hit. Big Bird costume, giant foam feet, can't see very well.

The birds are guards. AT A CARNIVAL.

The women are highly trained assassins. AT A MOTEL!!!!

"Oh there's Ninja palaces therefore anything can happen"

Strawman, A blatant one.

No that. You're arguing that because some guards dress as ninjas IN A JAPANESE PALACE or that some guards dress in bird costumes AT A CARNIVAL that it's perfectly okay that Assassins dress in "Nun Themed Gothic Fetishwear" (Fuck you, they're Bondage Nuns) FOR NO REASON.

You "out in the open" argument is baseless considering all the insane shit done in "the open" before like the Big Bird assassins and the Meat King's party.

Are we talking about the carnival again? Bird suit! Carnival! Makes contextual sense! Why so hard to understand.

And I really fail to see how the Meat King was out in the open.... Really.... Not in the open. Not in the slightest.

HOW DO YOU KNOW? Have you been in every Japanese palace or Yakuza mansion?

Yes, Ninja Assassin palaces would be ridiculously implausible, equally sending a troop of female assassins dressed as sexy nuns.

Do you understand how you can own private property?
Do you understand how you might have guards for that property?
Maybe you ask your guards to dress as ninjas for shits and giggles.
Why not? Weird and eccentric yes. Insane? No.

Say you wanted to kill someone, someone really dangerous and you want to do it in a public place. Lets hire some assassins. Lets dress them as nuns as a disguise.

Okay. I can buy that. What's the disguise hiding?

Nun themed gothic fetishwear.

??????????????????????????LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[TAdamson]

Semantics is not a get-out-clause for making BLATANTLY FALSE AND SELF SERVING claims.

It's miniskirts and catsuits. It's not crotchless pants, it's a garter belt. That's it. You are clearly woefully ignorant of dress style and sex if you conclude that is "bondage".

Repeat after me: this has NOTHING to do with bondage. WHY are you dragging bondage into this? Bondage means RESTRAINTS. It may be with ropes, leather or chains (handcuffs) it is not defined by vinyl clothing.

Fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCKING GOTHIC FETISHWEAR. Gaawwwwwd. I don't know why my mind associates gothic fetishwear with bondage. Oh wait, all that pornography... Right.


You're a fucking pedant. You know what I'm talking about.

Yes, it's ridiculous. Entirely fitting with what the ridiculousness that Hitman series has established.

Clearly we disagree.

Have you played the series?

Yes.

Do you even CARE about the series or is it just conservative meddling?

No I hate the series.

Clearly.

That's why I have spent 40 or so paragraphs arguing that events within it should involve some contextual sense and meaning.

You have made PERSONAL ASSERTIONS, so now you have to lay clean your politics and prejudices, do you disapprove of women showing their legs in public? Does it enrage you?

???????????????????????????? What're you on bro?

Except the demand was not for context, YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE AT ALL!!! (yes block capitals are necessary for you who ignore points so inconvenient to you).


Again, caught red handed.

Red handed??????????????????????

Sigh. Sorry that you misinterpereted what I was saying.

I thought I was clearly saying that Bondage Nuns (They're fucking bondage nuns alright... Hot.) should not be attacking 47 OUTSIDE OF A MOTEL!!!!!



I did say however.


"Bondage nuns would be more appropriate in a German or Russian strip club."

Understand? No? Not clear enough?

FINE! I also said:

"It's clearly put there for titillation. Which would be fine, but at least make it contextually appropriate! Put them in club, or a brothel, or make them some sort of pervert's live-in house guards/maids."

It was clear that I was arguing that it didn't make sense. Why they fuck would you claim otherwise? Run out of arguments so you have to make up false claims of prudishness? Grasping at strawmen? (Oh, and I fucking hate claims of "straw-manning" . It's a debating claim made by people with weak arguments when they know they've argued themselves into a corner. But you used it first so fuck you.)

So no. I never " ENDLESSLY asserted".."that they could never fit in the Hitman universe."

Got it straight?

You may be joking but that would be perfect, that IS Hitman. Clowns, with machine guns, brilliant.

We clearly disagree. There should be ridiculous things in the Hitmanverse but they should be in the shadows. Much like 47 is in the shadows.



However if 47 had to go to a fair-ground (another one) to kill a guy, and his guards and maybe even the guy himself were clowns.... That'd be rad. Why not? Great.

But not clowns trying to kill 47 at a motel. That'd be like a bunch of bondage-nuns(Ha!) doing it. Dumb. Really dumb. Starved of oxygen at birth and pushing crayons up your nose dumb. Why would you think that was a good idea?

You clearly just don't get Hitman and seem to think it should be just like Call of Duty for gawd sake.

No. I think it should be Hitman and involve sneaky stealth shit, some exaggerated stereotypes, and weird shit when you look in the dark corners.

Not groups of Bondage(You know what I'm talking about. Eat shit and die.)-Assassin-Nuns in broad daylight. There is a line between stereotype and parody. This goes beyond parody and into farce.

But you clearly are not discerning enough to grasp the difference.

 

[TwiZtah]

So tired of everyone throwing a tantrum over the whole gender shit... Of the white knights who doesn't give a crap really, but thinks it will give them ladies. And just about everyone taking everything too damn seriously, chill-the-fuck-out.

 

[TAdamson]

Yes, Ninja Assassin palaces would be ridiculously implausible, equally sending a troop of female assassins dressed as sexy nuns.

Hey look at this!!!

http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/63-year-old-engineer-japans-last-ninja

Actual ninja. Dressed in black.

Who would of thunk it?

Now produce the pictures of female assassins dressed in "Nun Themed Gothic Fetishwear" (Fucking bondage nuns. GTFO) . Oh wait, you can't, because that's not a real thing.

 

[acosn]

Anyone who actually complained about that trailer didn't play the previous hitman games, or was just trying to shake up some page hits.

Implausible as bondage outfitted nuns wielding assault rifles and bazookas may be, it fits right in with what hitman is about.

 

[fozzy360]

Anyone who actually complained about that trailer didn't play the previous hitman games, or was just trying to shake up some page hits.

Implausible as bondage outfitted nuns wielding assault rifles and bazookas may be, it fits right in with what hitman is about.

Yeah, nice assumptions there, bro. If anything, I'd have to say your familiarity with the series is somewhat lacking.

 

[Xeldrak]

Yeah, I sure hope IO changes this part of the game...

...there should be some half-naked strippers fighting on 47's side!

 

[Treblaine]

Yes, Ninja Assassin palaces would be ridiculously implausible, equally sending a troop of female assassins dressed as sexy nuns.

Hey look at this!!!

http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/63-year-old-engineer-japans-last-ninja

Actual ninja. Dressed in black.

Who would of thunk it?

Now produce the pictures of female assassins dressed in "Nun Themed Gothic Fetishwear" (Fucking bondage nuns. GTFO) . Oh wait, you can't, because that's not a real thing.

That's a bloody theme park. Not an actual hangout for real murderous assassins.

It's as relevant as me posting NSFW pics from a sex-club where a nun theme is present.

 

[TAdamson]

Yes, Ninja Assassin palaces would be ridiculously implausible, equally sending a troop of female assassins dressed as sexy nuns.

Hey look at this!!!

http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/63-year-old-engineer-japans-last-ninja

Actual ninja. Dressed in black.

Who would of thunk it?

Now produce the pictures of female assassins dressed in "Nun Themed Gothic Fetishwear" (Fucking bondage nuns. GTFO) . Oh wait, you can't, because that's not a real thing.

That's a bloody theme park. Not an actual hangout for real murderous assassins.

It's as relevant as me posting NSFW pics from a sex-club where a nun theme is present.

Hey that was one of your points. Nun themed sex clubs. And the ninjas weren't assassins were they? They were guards.

Sorry, you lose.